[casual_games] Art Game Capitalism

[Jason Van Anden]

Hi Lennard ,

Hmm - this is an interesting idea if I can get ads that I don't think are
tacky!  The reason I avoid an ads model is because my experience with them
is the yearbook one, or the mortgage one... etc... I find these annoying to
the point where I will spend less time with site that display them, so I
would not want to annoy my audience with them (is that weird?).
GoogleAdSense looks OK on my gmail, but doesn't really blend as the frame
for visual art.

My art/games will be java/browser based - which is my preference.  Your
suggestion makes me wonder how hard it would be to solicit ads from
companies that I would want to associate myself with, or at least not deem
too distracting from the game itself.  Anyone out there have any ideas in
this direction?  Seeking sponsorship maybe?  It seems complicated on its
face.

Thank you for the feedback!
Jason Van Anden
www.smileproject.com



On 3/23/06, Lennard Feddersen <Lennard at rustyaxe.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jason, do you think the people who looked at your piece would likely
> have purchased the piece in large #'s?  If you are getting wide exposure
> with something that might not convert well then you might consider using
> ads to at least partially subsidize what you do.  The demo's of my PC
> products carry ads, drop me a line if you want me to help you out with
> this.
>
> Happy game makin',
>
> Lennard Feddersen
> CEO, Rusty Axe Games, Inc.
> www.RustyAxe.com <http://www.rustyaxe.com/>
>
> Lennard at RustyAxe.com
> P. 250-635-7623 F. 1-309-422-2466
> 3521 Dogwood, Terrace, BC, Canada, V8G-4Y7
>
>
>
> Jason Van Anden wrote:
>
> > I am seeking some advice that requires a little background before the
> > question, here it goes...
> >
> > I am a fine artist and software engineer who joined this list and IDGA
> > after I released a game last year as art that became a popular success
> > - Wired, Edge and USA Today liked it, among others.  It was offered
> > online for free because it was commissioned by an arts organization.
> > Art grants are very, very small compared to even the low side of a
> > casual games budget.  The reason you apply for these grants for this
> > type of activity is to have a reputable stage from which to launch
> > your online artwork, and so that you are not "giving it away" in art
> > world terms.
> >
> > For the last year, I have lurked on this list and eagerly devoured all
> > of IDGA's excellent white papers, trying to figure out a good model
> > for future art/game hybrids. One thing I have learned from this is
> > that free is not a good policy if one hopes to sustain their art or
> > biz from their art.  It is also frowned upon by others in either field
> > (art or games) because it screws up everything for everyone who wants
> > to make a living from doing this.
> >
> > I am in the process of putting together a grant proposal for new
> > game/art/toy hybrid I am very excited about - the grant is
> > prestigious, but not a lot of money.  I want this piece to be staged
> > as art, but as I am putting the proposal together it seems to me that
> > it could also be a popular success, in which case I would want to
> > capitalize on it this time.
> >
> > I am looking for advice, models, suggestions as to how I might both
> > offer the work as art and leave open the possibility that it can
> > generate revenue.
> >
> > Jason Van Anden
> > www.smileproject.com <http://www.smileproject.com>
> >
> >
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