[casual_games] [BULK] Re: Big piracy problem!

[Stephen Triche]

In my experience, the game usually get's hacked first from a beta or
preview version of some type.

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[mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of STEVE FERNANDEZ
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:01 PM
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Subject: [BULK] Re: [casual_games] Big piracy problem!
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It's interesting that the link to download the game says First Class
Flurry v0.9.0.0r369.  This makes me think the game was leaked rather
than hacked.

Looking at the bottom of the page I see their weak legal shield, because
they say Shareware at the top of the page.

"This document is provided to try out, please delete in 24 hours after
finishing try out, if have problem to please upforumsay, I will reply as
soon as possible"

The server resides in China.  The Russian market is just as bad about
leaks and posting the game.

Just my $.02 to the conversation.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Chanon Sajjamanochai
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:46 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Big piracy problem!

I think all DRMs are probably hackable.
If you want to release on portals there is probably no way to escape
being 
hacked.

But the thing is .. in this case the pirates aren't using file sharing
sites 
such as RapidShare and they aren't using bittorrent ... they are hosting
the 
downloads themselves and the download page is a simple html file ...
meaning 
that casual downloaders who might be expecting another free trial to try
out 
the game are instead getting the whole game .. thus lost sale.

Chanon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andres Martinez" <andres at bakno.com>
To: "IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List" <casual_games at igda.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Big piracy problem!


Hello Chanon

A robust DRM system is the best defense against such threat.

Recently we signed a distribution deal with a portal, but we found the
DRM they use is "hack-able".

We prefer to keep the name of the portal, but I suggest you make a
double check on your partner's DRM.

Regards,
Andres Martinez
www.baKno.com

On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Chanon Sajjamanochai wrote:


> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm running into a very bad piracy problem with our latest game.

> The google search results for First Class Flurry has a pirated

> version on

> the first page.

> It is not a torrent site but a page with a direct download link:

> http:// gamyy dot com / english / games / 1435 . htm

> (url obfuscated, replace dot with . and remove spaces)

>

> I fear that I might be losing tons of sales because of this.

>

> If you look at the home page:

> http:// gamyy dot com / english / index . htm

> You might even see your own game.

>

> What can I/we do?

>

> If you look at the alexa traffic history of this site you will see

> that it's

> traffic is increasing very rapidly - meaning we're all possibly

> losing tons

> of sales because of it.

>

> I think this is a lot worse than torrent sites, because I think the

> target

> demographic doesn't use bittorrent. This is just a simple download

> from a

> simple webpage.

>

> For me, I hope that as First Class Flurry goes up on more sites/

> portals,

> they will help push this page down. But even for Dream Chronicles 2

> I'm

> seeing the gamyy page of it on only the 4th google search result page.

>

> Thanks for reading and I'd love to hear your ideas.

>

> Chanon

> Viqua Games

>

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