From olegkuznecov at gmail.com  Thu May  1 05:37:16 2008
From: olegkuznecov at gmail.com (Oleg Kuznecov)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:37:16 +0300
Subject: [casual_games] test
In-Reply-To: <004a01c8ab23$741530d0$6d01a8c0@mofactorlaptop>
References: <000001c8aafb$250ecfa0$6f2c6ee0$@com>
	<a78f49460804301413g73d659bcx4d15a7a042fc269b@mail.gmail.com>
	<008901c8ab07$ccc432b0$6400a8c0@MAIN>
	<002e01c8ab08$2143f910$0201a8c0@i9300>
	<004a01c8ab23$741530d0$6d01a8c0@mofactorlaptop>
Message-ID: <f32599d30805010237v5e16517fy43cddcad721c550e@mail.gmail.com>

The same with me. Can you repeat them, please?

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:36 AM, John Szeder <john at mofactor.com> wrote:

> Sorry. I didn't get any of the 7 test messages.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casual_Games mailing list
> Casual_Games at igda.org
> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive Search:
> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
> List FAQ:
> http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ
>



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From olegkuznecov at gmail.com  Thu May  1 05:40:23 2008
From: olegkuznecov at gmail.com (Oleg Kuznecov)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:40:23 +0300
Subject: [casual_games] Game-Sales-Charts.com is now CasualCharts.com
In-Reply-To: <0a1501c8ab0d$cf432db0$6dc98910$@net>
References: <0a1501c8ab0d$cf432db0$6dc98910$@net>
Message-ID: <f32599d30805010240x73c887ebp80242abcab3979f9@mail.gmail.com>

Did the yahoo chart works well? Can you give link to yahoo there such top 10
can be found?
If I looking to http://games.yahoo.com/games/front I see MagicFarm at first
place =)
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:01 AM, James C. Smith <james at reflexive.net> wrote:

> Since some of you are desperate to start a conversation on this list I
> will
> gave you a topic.
>
> Game-Sales-Charts.com is now known as www.CasualCharts.com
>
> Discuss
>
>
>
> CasualCharts.com has all the same great "top 10" list aggregation and
> analysis tools that were always on the Game-Sales-Charts.com. (see the
> link
> to Legacy Charts in the nav bar).  But there is now a whole new breed of
> more customizable and interactive charts.  I hope you find them as fun an
> interesting as I do. (and maybe some of you even find them useful)
>
> James C. Smith
> Producer: Reflexive Entertainment
> Editor: CasualCharts.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casual_Games mailing list
> Casual_Games at igda.org
> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive Search:
> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
> List FAQ:
> http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ
>



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From nvinacur at fibertel.com.ar  Thu May  1 08:34:45 2008
From: nvinacur at fibertel.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Vinacur?=)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 09:34:45 -0300
Subject: [casual_games] Game-Sales-Charts.com is now CasualCharts.com
In-Reply-To: <0a1501c8ab0d$cf432db0$6dc98910$@net>
References: <0a1501c8ab0d$cf432db0$6dc98910$@net>
Message-ID: <4819B8E5.8080804@fibertel.com.ar>

It would be nice to see something like the amount of the top 10 sold 
along the last years, in order to be able to see the state of the whole 
industry. Or at least, if this is not possible, the amount of units 
being sold by each portal so we can know if the industry is getting 
better or worse in absolute parameters in stead of seeing the relative 
vision. Moreover, it would be nice if it is not possible to disclose 
that kind of information, just to see a graph with no units :) Greets

                                                                         
                                             Nicolas

James C. Smith escribi?:
> Since some of you are desperate to start a conversation on this list I will
> gave you a topic.
>
> Game-Sales-Charts.com is now known as www.CasualCharts.com
>
> Discuss
>
>
>
> CasualCharts.com has all the same great "top 10" list aggregation and
> analysis tools that were always on the Game-Sales-Charts.com. (see the link
> to Legacy Charts in the nav bar).  But there is now a whole new breed of
> more customizable and interactive charts.  I hope you find them as fun an
> interesting as I do. (and maybe some of you even find them useful)
>
> James C. Smith
> Producer: Reflexive Entertainment
> Editor: CasualCharts.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casual_Games mailing list
> Casual_Games at igda.org
> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive Search: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
> List FAQ: http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ
>
>   

From sfernandez at mumbojumbo.com  Thu May  1 09:02:38 2008
From: sfernandez at mumbojumbo.com (STEVE FERNANDEZ)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 08:02:38 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Game-Sales-Charts.com is now CasualCharts.com
In-Reply-To: <4819B8E5.8080804@fibertel.com.ar>
References: <0a1501c8ab0d$cf432db0$6dc98910$@net>
	<4819B8E5.8080804@fibertel.com.ar>
Message-ID: <E2DA60ADE0913F4BBAFFACCD835AADC702569D79@bam.UD.local>

We are not likely to see that kind of information shared for competitive reasons.  But, that's not to say IGDA or CGA couldn't aggregate numbers from some top portals and add that to the next State of the Industry Report.

It would also be advantageous to the developer community if one of those organizations would also give insight into traffic numbers via comScore or Nielsen.

You've got a great question:  Is the industry really growing or are the numbers just getting pushed around.

Here's another one:  Is online purchasing beginning to cannibalize into retail sales potential? 

It would be very interesting to see if there are any correlations between any trends in online traffic or sales compared with retail sales.

Are either of you organizations up to helping us developers figure some of this out?

-sf


-----Original Message-----
From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Nicol?s Vinacur
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:35 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Game-Sales-Charts.com is now CasualCharts.com

It would be nice to see something like the amount of the top 10 sold 
along the last years, in order to be able to see the state of the whole 
industry. Or at least, if this is not possible, the amount of units 
being sold by each portal so we can know if the industry is getting 
better or worse in absolute parameters in stead of seeing the relative 
vision. Moreover, it would be nice if it is not possible to disclose 
that kind of information, just to see a graph with no units :) Greets

                                                                         
                                             Nicolas

James C. Smith escribi?:
> Since some of you are desperate to start a conversation on this list I will
> gave you a topic.
>
> Game-Sales-Charts.com is now known as www.CasualCharts.com
>
> Discuss
>
>
>
> CasualCharts.com has all the same great "top 10" list aggregation and
> analysis tools that were always on the Game-Sales-Charts.com. (see the link
> to Legacy Charts in the nav bar).  But there is now a whole new breed of
> more customizable and interactive charts.  I hope you find them as fun an
> interesting as I do. (and maybe some of you even find them useful)
>
> James C. Smith
> Producer: Reflexive Entertainment
> Editor: CasualCharts.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casual_Games mailing list
> Casual_Games at igda.org
> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive Search: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
> List FAQ: http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ
>
>   
_______________________________________________
Casual_Games mailing list
Casual_Games at igda.org
http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
Archive Search: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
List FAQ: http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ

From thb at gameattorney.com  Thu May  1 11:52:35 2008
From: thb at gameattorney.com (Thomas H. Buscaglia)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 08:52:35 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...
In-Reply-To: <E2DA60ADE0913F4BBAFFACCD835AADC702569D79@bam.UD.local>
References: <0a1501c8ab0d$cf432db0$6dc98910$@net>
	<4819B8E5.8080804@fibertel.com.ar>
	<E2DA60ADE0913F4BBAFFACCD835AADC702569D79@bam.UD.local>
Message-ID: <200805011552.m41FqhD06718@dev-biz.com>

Is everyone aware of this?

If so, waddaya think?

http://www.casualgaming.biz/

Tom B

???`???,??,???`??????`???,??,???`???
Tom Buscaglia, Esquire
The Game Attorney
T. H. Buscaglia and Associates
Miami, Florida and Vashon, Washington - USA
Tel (888)848-GLAW
Chair IGDA Foundation
Chair IGDA ECQC Taskforce
Member, IGDA Board of Directors  
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From viliamjr at gmail.com  Thu May  1 12:15:56 2008
From: viliamjr at gmail.com (Viliam)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:15:56 -0300
Subject: [casual_games] test
In-Reply-To: <f32599d30805010237v5e16517fy43cddcad721c550e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001c8aafb$250ecfa0$6f2c6ee0$@com>
	<a78f49460804301413g73d659bcx4d15a7a042fc269b@mail.gmail.com>
	<008901c8ab07$ccc432b0$6400a8c0@MAIN>
	<002e01c8ab08$2143f910$0201a8c0@i9300>
	<004a01c8ab23$741530d0$6d01a8c0@mofactorlaptop>
	<f32599d30805010237v5e16517fy43cddcad721c550e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ee262d50805010915w1ace51e5p94dbd99b6cc185c4@mail.gmail.com>

ACK
:-)

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Oleg Kuznecov <olegkuznecov at gmail.com> wrote:
> The same with me. Can you repeat them, please?
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:36 AM, John Szeder <john at mofactor.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry. I didn't get any of the 7 test messages.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casual_Games mailing list
>> Casual_Games at igda.org
>> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
>> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
>> Archive Search:
>> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
>> List FAQ:
>> http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ
>
>
>
> --
> Greetings,
> Oleg Kuznetsov
> _______________________________________________
> Casual_Games mailing list
> Casual_Games at igda.org
> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive Search:
> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
> List FAQ:
> http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ
>
>



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From kevin at chewysoft.com  Thu May  1 12:25:54 2008
From: kevin at chewysoft.com (Kevin Larson)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:25:54 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Game-Sales-Charts.com is now CasualCharts.com
In-Reply-To: <0a1501c8ab0d$cf432db0$6dc98910$@net>
Message-ID: <83353AB752A4CE478DFCA5B65BC5776F160BA1@Server.ChewySoft.local>

Nice name and url! Thanks for an update to this great industry resource.

Kevin Larson


-----Original Message-----
From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org
[mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of James C. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:02 PM
To: 'IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List'
Subject: [casual_games] Game-Sales-Charts.com is now CasualCharts.com

Since some of you are desperate to start a conversation on this list I
will
gave you a topic.

Game-Sales-Charts.com is now known as www.CasualCharts.com

Discuss



CasualCharts.com has all the same great "top 10" list aggregation and
analysis tools that were always on the Game-Sales-Charts.com. (see the
link
to Legacy Charts in the nav bar).  But there is now a whole new breed of
more customizable and interactive charts.  I hope you find them as fun
an
interesting as I do. (and maybe some of you even find them useful)

James C. Smith
Producer: Reflexive Entertainment
Editor: CasualCharts.com

_______________________________________________
Casual_Games mailing list
Casual_Games at igda.org
http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
Archive Search:
http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
List FAQ:
http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FA
Q

From Striche at yatecgames.com  Thu May  1 13:18:33 2008
From: Striche at yatecgames.com (Stephen Triche)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:18:33 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...
In-Reply-To: <200805011552.m41FqhD06718@dev-biz.com>
Message-ID: <2C3C0055DBC265469AB603971AAF8C0902212B@SBS0001.sbsdom.local>

A good idea. I've made it my homepage; we'll see over the next few days what they're putting out there.

 

________________________________

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Thomas H. Buscaglia
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:53 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...

 

Is everyone aware of this?  

If so, waddaya think?

http://www.casualgaming.biz/

Tom B



???`???,??,???`??????`???,??,???`??? 
Tom Buscaglia, Esquire
The Game Attorney
T. H. Buscaglia and Associates
Miami, Florida and Vashon, Washington - USA
Tel (888)848-GLAW
Chair IGDA Foundation
Chair IGDA ECQC Taskforce
Member, IGDA Board of Directors 

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From james at reflexive.net  Thu May  1 12:06:46 2008
From: james at reflexive.net (James C. Smith)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:06:46 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] CasualCharts.com: Which Yahoo list is the
	"correct" list?
In-Reply-To: <f32599d30805010240x73c887ebp80242abcab3979f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0a1501c8ab0d$cf432db0$6dc98910$@net>
	<f32599d30805010240x73c887ebp80242abcab3979f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0b4a01c8aba5$5aff3f50$10fdbdf0$@net>

Most portals have many different top 10 lists and they are usually poorly
labeled. It is very hard to decide which lists to archive. In most cases I
archive many different lists from the same portal. But I currently only
focus on download games for Windows and Mac. So I don't archive the list of
free web games are lists that combine web games and download games.  The
list you mention has many non-download games like Pool and Spades.  In the
case of Yahoo I archive the "Featured" list of download game found here:
http://games.yahoo.com/downloads  I also archive the "Top Downloadable
Games" list that is shown in the bottom corner of each game detail page for
example this one:
http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=bookwormadventures I believe
this one most representative of the current best sellers and therefore the
most useful. 

 

My preference is to show the list that contains the top sellers or top
downloads rather than games that are "featured", highly rated, or high
converters.  This is often NOT the list on the front page.  If you can find
a better URL for a list of top selling download games on Yahoo.com I would
like to see it.

 

I am always open to suggestion for new portals to archive or alternate lists
to use on existing portals.  Now that the World map is customizable people
can pick which portals to view and I am free to add more portals to the
archive without cluttering up everyone World Map view. (unless they are
using the legacy World Map that shows EVERY portal in the archive and has no
options)

 

If you aren't using the new customizable World map then you should be.  I
personally use a bookmark to that page which includes my preferences for
which lists to include and which to hide.  Here is my personal World Map
configuration which I view every day.

 

http://www.casualcharts.com/games/worldmap/?date=
<http://www.casualcharts.com/games/worldmap/?date=&columns=10&namelen=30&rel
ativedays=1&AOL=on&BigFish=on&GameHouse=on&iWin=on&Logler=on&MSN=on&PlayFirs
t=on&Pogo=on&Real=on&Reflexive=on&Shockwave=on&YahooTop=on>
&columns=10&namelen=30&relativedays=1&AOL=on&BigFish=on&GameHouse=on&iWin=on
&Logler=on&MSN=on&PlayFirst=on&Pogo=on&Real=on&Reflexive=on&Shockwave=on&Yah
ooTop=on

 

People with smaller monitors, or different interests would likely use a
different set of options.

 

 

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Oleg Kuznecov
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:40 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Game-Sales-Charts.com is now CasualCharts.com

 

Did the yahoo chart works well? Can you give link to yahoo there such top 10
can be found?
If I looking to http://games.yahoo.com/games/front I see MagicFarm at first
place =)

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From wade at largeanimal.com  Thu May  1 13:25:59 2008
From: wade at largeanimal.com (Wade Tinney)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:25:59 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...
In-Reply-To: <2C3C0055DBC265469AB603971AAF8C0902212B@SBS0001.sbsdom.local>
References: <200805011552.m41FqhD06718@dev-biz.com>
	<2C3C0055DBC265469AB603971AAF8C0902212B@SBS0001.sbsdom.local>
Message-ID: <135301c8abb0$6c6596d0$4530c470$@com>

Looks like an interesting resource. I really wish they had an RSS feed,
however. Unless they do and I missed it. Anyone?

 

 

Wade Tinney, founding partner

Large Animal Games

www.largeanimal.com

212-989-4312

*Play Bumper Stars! http://www.bumperstars.com

 

 

 

 

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Stephen Triche
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:19 PM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...

 

A good idea. I?ve made it my homepage; we?ll see over the next few days what
they?re putting out there.

 

  _____  

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Thomas H. Buscaglia
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:53 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...

 

Is everyone aware of this?  

If so, waddaya think?

http://www.casualgaming.biz/

Tom B

???`???,??,???`??????`???,??,???`??? 
Tom Buscaglia, Esquire
The Game Attorney
T. H. Buscaglia and Associates
Miami, Florida and Vashon, Washington - USA
Tel (888)848-GLAW
Chair IGDA Foundation
Chair IGDA ECQC Taskforce
Member, IGDA Board of Directors 

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From Striche at yatecgames.com  Thu May  1 13:23:29 2008
From: Striche at yatecgames.com (Stephen Triche)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:23:29 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...
In-Reply-To: <135301c8abb0$6c6596d0$4530c470$@com>
Message-ID: <2C3C0055DBC265469AB603971AAF8C0902212D@SBS0001.sbsdom.local>

http://www.casualgaming.biz/feeds

 

 

________________________________

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Wade Tinney
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:26 PM
To: 'IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...

 

Looks like an interesting resource. I really wish they had an RSS feed, however. Unless they do and I missed it. Anyone?

 

 

Wade Tinney, founding partner

Large Animal Games

www.largeanimal.com

212-989-4312

*Play Bumper Stars! http://www.bumperstars.com

 

 

 

 

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Triche
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:19 PM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...

 

A good idea. I've made it my homepage; we'll see over the next few days what they're putting out there.

 

________________________________

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Thomas H. Buscaglia
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:53 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...

 

Is everyone aware of this?  

If so, waddaya think?

http://www.casualgaming.biz/

Tom B

???`???,??,???`??????`???,??,???`??? 
Tom Buscaglia, Esquire
The Game Attorney
T. H. Buscaglia and Associates
Miami, Florida and Vashon, Washington - USA
Tel (888)848-GLAW
Chair IGDA Foundation
Chair IGDA ECQC Taskforce
Member, IGDA Board of Directors 

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From Striche at yatecgames.com  Thu May  1 13:26:06 2008
From: Striche at yatecgames.com (Stephen Triche)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:26:06 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...
In-Reply-To: <135301c8abb0$6c6596d0$4530c470$@com>
Message-ID: <2C3C0055DBC265469AB603971AAF8C0902212E@SBS0001.sbsdom.local>

 

http://www.casualgaming.biz/feeds

 

________________________________

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org
[mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Wade Tinney
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:26 PM
To: 'IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Casual Gaming biz site launch...

 

Looks like an interesting resource. I really wish they had an RSS feed,
however. Unless they do and I missed it. Anyone?

 

 

Wade Tinney, founding partner

Large Animal Games

www.largeanimal.com

212-989-4312

*Play Bumper Stars! http://www.bumperstars.com

 

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From universedave at gmail.com  Sun May  4 15:52:58 2008
From: universedave at gmail.com (Dave Rohrl)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 12:52:58 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Need a replacement section editor for Casual MMO's
Message-ID: <91a814620805041252v62a18007h957fe0e90ccd8f07@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Unfortunately, the section editor for the Casual MMO section of the white
paper has vanished from site and a replacement is needed ASAP.  There is
already a talented group of writers lined up for the section, and they just
need someone to set deadlines for them and give them feedback then throw
their writing over the wall to a ready and eager copy editor.  I would
estimate that the position requires about 10-12 hours of work over the next
3 months.  If you are able to jump in and perform this service for the
community, please contact me ASAP.

Thanks,
Dave Rohrl
2008 Casual Games White Paper Editor
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From derrick at flowplay.com  Sun May  4 15:55:10 2008
From: derrick at flowplay.com (Derrick Morton)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 12:55:10 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Need a replacement section editor for Casual
	MMO's
In-Reply-To: <91a814620805041252v62a18007h957fe0e90ccd8f07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91a814620805041252v62a18007h957fe0e90ccd8f07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8a0408c50805041255y1e72db8ajea14dcd4ab888c42@mail.gmail.com>

Dave,

Can you send me a blurb about what you're trying to cover for this
section? I might be able to help but want to know what I'm in for :)

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Dave Rohrl <universedave at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Unfortunately, the section editor for the Casual MMO section of the white
> paper has vanished from site and a replacement is needed ASAP.  There is
> already a talented group of writers lined up for the section, and they just
> need someone to set deadlines for them and give them feedback then throw
> their writing over the wall to a ready and eager copy editor.  I would
> estimate that the position requires about 10-12 hours of work over the next
> 3 months.  If you are able to jump in and perform this service for the
> community, please contact me ASAP.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Rohrl
> 2008 Casual Games White Paper Editor
> _______________________________________________
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>  Casual_Games at igda.org
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>
>



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Creators of ourWorld.com -- Make it Yours!
206-219-0537 Office
206-953-8253 Mobile

From thb at gameattorney.com  Mon May  5 11:06:03 2008
From: thb at gameattorney.com (Thomas H. Buscaglia)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 08:06:03 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Need a replacement section editor for Casual
 MMO's
In-Reply-To: <91a814620805041252v62a18007h957fe0e90ccd8f07@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <91a814620805041252v62a18007h957fe0e90ccd8f07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200805051505.m45F5kD20735@dev-biz.com>

Since this is an editor position, you may want to 
consider contacting the writer's SIG.  They are 
very good at that sort of thing!

Wendy might be a good person to contact... "Wendy 
Despain" <wendeth at wendydespain.com>

Tom B

At 12:52 PM 5/4/2008, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Unfortunately, the section editor for the Casual 
>MMO section of the white paper has vanished from 
>site and a replacement is needed ASAP.  There is 
>already a talented group of writers lined up for 
>the section, and they just need someone to set 
>deadlines for them and give them feedback then 
>throw their writing over the wall to a ready and 
>eager copy editor.  I would estimate that the 
>position requires about 10-12 hours of work over 
>the next 3 months.  If you are able to jump in 
>and perform this service for the community, please contact me ASAP.
>
>Thanks,
>Dave Rohrl
>2008 Casual Games White Paper Editor
>_______________________________________________
>Casual_Games mailing list
>Casual_Games at igda.org
>http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
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>List FAQ: 
>http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ

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From jmurray at fuelindustries.com  Mon May  5 13:21:05 2008
From: jmurray at fuelindustries.com (Jeff Murray)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:21:05 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Need a replacement section editor for Casual
	MMO's
In-Reply-To: <200805051505.m45F5kD20735@dev-biz.com>
References: <91a814620805041252v62a18007h957fe0e90ccd8f07@mail.gmail.com>
	<200805051505.m45F5kD20735@dev-biz.com>
Message-ID: <1861F7D138B8034FAAB4BF433EBCAD24017DCAC7@ex1.Fuel.Ott>

Hey Dave,

 

If you're still looking, fire me an e-mail and I'll be happy to help
out. I'm not sure if you got my mail as I think I sent it to a gmail
account, so I thought I'd post here to be sure.

 

Thanks,

Jeff.

 

Jeff Murray  |  Director, Game Development

FUEL INDUSTRIES
tel: 613.224.6738 ext.246 
www.fuelindustries.com <http://www.fuelindustries.com/> 

We're Hiring! <http://www.fuelindustries.com/careers> 

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From nicolas at qb9.net  Mon May  5 15:56:29 2008
From: nicolas at qb9.net (Nicolas Cohen)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:56:29 -0300
Subject: [casual_games] DRM
Message-ID: <34A7EB2D-9B37-425A-B1CE-6C42144CB889@qb9.net>

Hi,

i'm researching different DRM solutions to support try and buy and  
subscription models. I am looking for a solution that allows us to  
create a custom download manager (as seen in big fish's website).  
Real's TryMedia doesn't provide this i've read in http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/casual_games/2005-September/000169.html 
  that most portals use TryMedia, so they must either have a special  
arrengement or have changed provider since.
The alternatives i found are:

-SoftWrap http://www.softwrap.com/
-StarForce http://www.star-force.com/solutions/license_model.php
-Exent http://www.exent.com/Markets_and_Solutions/Publishers_digital_distribution.asp
-GameShield http://www.gameshield.com/

Does anyone in the list have any experience with this DRM systems and  
can recommend any of them?

regards,

Nicolas Cohen
Online Business Developer

QB9
BA +(54 11) 4855 9371
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolascohentari

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From james at popcap.com  Mon May  5 20:29:09 2008
From: james at popcap.com (James Gwertzman)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:29:09 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] DRM
In-Reply-To: <34A7EB2D-9B37-425A-B1CE-6C42144CB889@qb9.net>
References: <34A7EB2D-9B37-425A-B1CE-6C42144CB889@qb9.net>
Message-ID: <A5575DED1CD9A7458B10A76F3ECC341C03CD7ED5@gigan.internal.popcap.com>

We are using the GameShield DRM for protecting our games over in Asia;
their model is quite flexible and allows us to do significant custom
enhancement while still using their core technology for protection. The
download manager, however, seems orthogonal to the DRM - how the bits
get down to the user's machine doesn't have much to do with how the bits
are protected, does it?

 

-----------------------------------------

James Gwertzman

Vice President, Asia/Pacific

PopCap Games, Inc.

direct (US): +1-206-256-4210

mobile (china): +86 -13570280744

 

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org
[mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cohen
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:56 PM
To: casual_games at igda.org
Subject: [casual_games] DRM

 

Hi,

 

i'm researching different DRM solutions to support try and buy and
subscription models. I am looking for a solution that allows us to
create a custom download manager (as seen in big fish's website). Real's
TryMedia doesn't provide this i've read in
http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/casual_games/2005-September/000169.h
tml that most portals use TryMedia, so they must either have a special
arrengement or have changed provider since.

The alternatives i found are:





-SoftWrap http://www.softwrap.com/ <http://www.softwrap.com/> 

-StarForce http://www.star-force.com/solutions/license_model.php
<http://www.star-force.com/solutions/license_model.php> 

-Exent
http://www.exent.com/Markets_and_Solutions/Publishers_digital_distributi
on.asp
<http://www.exent.com/Markets_and_Solutions/Publishers_digital_distribut
ion.asp> 

-GameShield http://www.gameshield.com/ <http://www.gameshield.com/> 

 

Does anyone in the list have any experience with this DRM systems and
can recommend any of them?

 

regards,

 

Nicolas Cohen

Online Business Developer

 

QB9 <http://www.qb9.net/> 

BA +(54 11) 4855 9371

http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolascohentari

 

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From Simonsen at rocketmail.com  Tue May  6 05:44:23 2008
From: Simonsen at rocketmail.com (Allan Simonsen)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 02:44:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [casual_games] DRM
In-Reply-To: <34A7EB2D-9B37-425A-B1CE-6C42144CB889@qb9.net>
Message-ID: <610257.77434.qm@web32408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> -StarForce
>
http://www.star-force.com/solutions/license_model.php

Regarding StarForce:
http://www.glop.org/starforce/

I recently found out why every DVD I had tried to burn
on my laptop for the last 6 months came out as useless
beer-coasters; thank you StarForce.

The hidden Ring0 fake CD/DVD driver it installs as
part of it's anti-piracy efforts causes random
blue-screens, disk drive incompatibility, random
slowdowns and in a couple of cases actual hardware
failure. Not to mention it provides a neat way to
bypass all the security features for anyone wanting to
make your PC a card-carrying member of the russian
mafia's Zombie Bulk Email Army. 

Shun.

Allan




> 
> Does anyone in the list have any experience with
> this DRM systems and  
> can recommend any of them?
> 
> regards,
> 
> Nicolas Cohen
> Online Business Developer
> 
> QB9
> BA +(54 11) 4855 9371
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolascohentari
> 
> > _______________________________________________
> Casual_Games mailing list
> Casual_Games at igda.org
> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive Search:
>
http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
> List FAQ:
>
http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ
> 



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From gabe at gabrielz.com  Tue May  6 07:18:31 2008
From: gabe at gabrielz.com (Gabriel Zichermann)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 04:18:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [casual_games] Newsware Arcade (MSNBC)?
Message-ID: <251276.59818.qm@web610.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey peeps:

Anyone know the people that are behind the news games
(NewsWare Arcade, NewsBlaster) at MSNBC? I'd love to
interview them for my blog (http://blog.rmbr.com). 

Their site is http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24056447

Thanks!

Gabe

From nicolas at qb9.net  Tue May  6 10:49:09 2008
From: nicolas at qb9.net (Nicolas Cohen)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 11:49:09 -0300
Subject: [casual_games] DRM
In-Reply-To: <BBA900FD-A153-41C5-AB83-697281878B7B@qb9.net>
References: <34A7EB2D-9B37-425A-B1CE-6C42144CB889@qb9.net>
	<A5575DED1CD9A7458B10A76F3ECC341C03CD7ED5@gigan.internal.popcap.com>
	<BBA900FD-A153-41C5-AB83-697281878B7B@qb9.net>
Message-ID: <46EE3A25-BB93-449C-9206-500F70FF1D0B@qb9.net>

my previous mail was above 10k (even besides it was only text)

The way i understood, the download manager acts also as a license  
manager, requesting available licenses for the user's account, but i  
will check further on this. Maybe i was unnecessarily going with "the  
whole pack" and can use whatever download manager i wanted to craft.

Regards,

Nicolas Cohen
Online Business Developer

QB9
BA +(54 11) 4855 9371
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolascohentarica


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From talshannon at hotmail.com  Wed May  7 13:38:35 2008
From: talshannon at hotmail.com (Audry Taylor)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:38:35 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Casual_Games Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.72.1210047157.7391.casual_games@igda.org>
References: <mailman.72.1210047157.7391.casual_games@igda.org>
Message-ID: <BAY102-W10FC282EF69D7026F207BBCDD10@phx.gbl>


Anyone going to the ION Game Conference?  What do you think of it?  The
main focus is MMOs, so I'm trying to determine if it's worth it for a
company focused on being a portal and social community for episodic and casual gaming to attend.  It's got
a pretty sweet lineup of speakers!

Audry Taylor
Creative Director
Go! Comi
http://www.gocomi.com

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From jadan at gametableonline.com  Fri May  9 10:26:54 2008
From: jadan at gametableonline.com (Jay Adan)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:26:54 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Gleemax Games
In-Reply-To: <004a01c8ab23$741530d0$6d01a8c0@mofactorlaptop>
References: <000001c8aafb$250ecfa0$6f2c6ee0$@com><a78f49460804301413g73d659bcx4d15a7a042fc269b@mail.gmail.com><008901c8ab07$ccc432b0$6400a8c0@MAIN>	<002e01c8ab08$2143f910$0201a8c0@i9300>
	<004a01c8ab23$741530d0$6d01a8c0@mofactorlaptop>
Message-ID: <010b01c8b1e0$bb0f9390$312ebab0$@com>

I thought that some of you might be interested in taking a look at the games
that we've been developing over the past year for Hasbro/Wizards of the
Coast.

If you go to http://www.gleemaxgames.com you can currently play Axis &
Allies, Acquire, Vegas Showdown, Guillotine and Robo Rally.

My personal favorite is Robo Rally since it takes a game that normally takes
an entire evening to something that you can play in about 20 minutes (when
playing against the AI opponents, anyway).

Enjoy!

- Jay Adan
- GameTable Online



From casual_games at seven.pairlist.net  Sun May 11 00:40:03 2008
From: casual_games at seven.pairlist.net (casual_games at seven.pairlist.net)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 00:40:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [casual_games] Tired of overpaying for meds at your local pharm
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From Lennard at RustyAxe.com  Fri May 23 15:40:05 2008
From: Lennard at RustyAxe.com (Lennard)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:40:05 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Comparative advertising
In-Reply-To: <750bfb930702101419q1a222e1bra97ca203a843d27a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF5A75A5638B4B48AD3FC2D674884193080989@exchange01.exchange.slingo.com>	<1503019D-9359-487E-966C-31AABED3767D@gmail.com>	<750bfb930702101222x2c07e2e1laf05d3219b872c2c@mail.gmail.com>	<C1351759-1B56-46E1-B779-C6161ED557C0@gmail.com>
	<750bfb930702101419q1a222e1bra97ca203a843d27a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48371D95.5020608@RustyAxe.com>

I am going to be doing a press release soon and want to make a 
comparison to a well known board game.  I want to say something like, 
"Like Risk but for Civil War buffs and students" (BTW, the game is not 
Risk).

I am making a comparison to a game that's at least fifty years old, very 
well known and which I compare well to. It also lets me pitch the game 
in a single sentence so that the consumer, at a glance, can know what 
the game is all about.  Looking at commercials common in North America 
this seems to be an OK thing to do and I haven't found anything online 
to contradict this.  What I'm looking for is a source that definitively 
states the rules.

Thanks in advance,

Lennard Feddersen
CEO, Rusty Axe Games, Inc.
www.RustyAxe.com

Lennard at RustyAxe.com
P. 250-635-7623 F. 1-309-422-2466
P. July & August 518-863-2317
5014 Walsh, Terrace, BC, Canada, V8G-4H2




From Rheadley at op-games.com  Fri May 23 16:24:37 2008
From: Rheadley at op-games.com (Robert Headley)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:24:37 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Comparative advertising
In-Reply-To: <48371D95.5020608@RustyAxe.com>
References: <FF5A75A5638B4B48AD3FC2D674884193080989@exchange01.exchange.slingo.com>
	<1503019D-9359-487E-966C-31AABED3767D@gmail.com>
	<750bfb930702101222x2c07e2e1laf05d3219b872c2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1351759-1B56-46E1-B779-C6161ED557C0@gmail.com>
	<750bfb930702101419q1a222e1bra97ca203a843d27a@mail.gmail.com>
	<48371D95.5020608@RustyAxe.com>
Message-ID: <7749cef0805231324i11f5d752n47be7541cc68dd2b@mail.gmail.com>

Just finished my Business Law class and this sounds like a case of Trademark
Fair use.

Read this to make sure.

http://www.publaw.com/fairusetrade.html

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Lennard <Lennard at rustyaxe.com> wrote:

> I am going to be doing a press release soon and want to make a comparison
> to a well known board game.  I want to say something like, "Like Risk but
> for Civil War buffs and students" (BTW, the game is not Risk).
>
> I am making a comparison to a game that's at least fifty years old, very
> well known and which I compare well to. It also lets me pitch the game in a
> single sentence so that the consumer, at a glance, can know what the game is
> all about.  Looking at commercials common in North America this seems to be
> an OK thing to do and I haven't found anything online to contradict this.
>  What I'm looking for is a source that definitively states the rules.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Lennard Feddersen
> CEO, Rusty Axe Games, Inc.
> www.RustyAxe.com
>
> Lennard at RustyAxe.com
> P. 250-635-7623 F. 1-309-422-2466
> P. July & August 518-863-2317
> 5014 Walsh, Terrace, BC, Canada, V8G-4H2
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casual_Games mailing list
> Casual_Games at igda.org
> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
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From benblewis at gmail.com  Sat May 24 00:22:19 2008
From: benblewis at gmail.com (Ben Lewis)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 23:22:19 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Comparative advertising
In-Reply-To: <48371D95.5020608@RustyAxe.com>
References: <FF5A75A5638B4B48AD3FC2D674884193080989@exchange01.exchange.slingo.com>
	<1503019D-9359-487E-966C-31AABED3767D@gmail.com>
	<750bfb930702101222x2c07e2e1laf05d3219b872c2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1351759-1B56-46E1-B779-C6161ED557C0@gmail.com>
	<750bfb930702101419q1a222e1bra97ca203a843d27a@mail.gmail.com>
	<48371D95.5020608@RustyAxe.com>
Message-ID: <f36529a20805232122s6314772ag97d59b226f3155da@mail.gmail.com>

The Federal Trade Commission governs these things, and their rules are the
first Google hit for "comparative advertising." Cue lawspeak!

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/policystmt/ad-compare.htm

Basically, don't be deceptive or attack the name you're comparing to.

-Ben

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Lennard <Lennard at rustyaxe.com> wrote:

> I am going to be doing a press release soon and want to make a comparison
> to a well known board game.  I want to say something like, "Like Risk but
> for Civil War buffs and students" (BTW, the game is not Risk).
>
> I am making a comparison to a game that's at least fifty years old, very
> well known and which I compare well to. It also lets me pitch the game in a
> single sentence so that the consumer, at a glance, can know what the game is
> all about.  Looking at commercials common in North America this seems to be
> an OK thing to do and I haven't found anything online to contradict this.
>  What I'm looking for is a source that definitively states the rules.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Lennard Feddersen
> CEO, Rusty Axe Games, Inc.
> www.RustyAxe.com
>
> Lennard at RustyAxe.com
> P. 250-635-7623 F. 1-309-422-2466
> P. July & August 518-863-2317
> 5014 Walsh, Terrace, BC, Canada, V8G-4H2
>
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From andres at bakno.com  Sat May 24 15:11:38 2008
From: andres at bakno.com (Andres Martinez)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:11:38 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Game Variations
In-Reply-To: <7749cef0805231324i11f5d752n47be7541cc68dd2b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF5A75A5638B4B48AD3FC2D674884193080989@exchange01.exchange.slingo.com>
	<1503019D-9359-487E-966C-31AABED3767D@gmail.com>
	<750bfb930702101222x2c07e2e1laf05d3219b872c2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1351759-1B56-46E1-B779-C6161ED557C0@gmail.com>
	<750bfb930702101419q1a222e1bra97ca203a843d27a@mail.gmail.com>
	<48371D95.5020608@RustyAxe.com>
	<7749cef0805231324i11f5d752n47be7541cc68dd2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DE3A7993-FA95-42F1-9A92-EA2549EB6910@bakno.com>

Hello

The recent legal advice on comparative advertising encouraged me to  
post this question.

Is it possible for a company to own the rights over a game mechanics?

As an example...  PopCap over Match-Three.

Regards,
Andres Martinez
www.baKno.com


From todd at sawickipedia.com  Sat May 24 17:04:33 2008
From: todd at sawickipedia.com (Todd Sawicki)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 14:04:33 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Game Variations
Message-ID: <223926C52C8EBF4DB30570260B67827303D22ACD@ex-be-006-sfo.shared.themessagecenter.com>

Oh no not this again ;)

This comes up every year and the answer is no.

-todd

----- Original Message -----
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To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>
Sent: Sat May 24 12:11:38 2008
Subject: [casual_games] Game Variations

Hello

The recent legal advice on comparative advertising encouraged me to  
post this question.

Is it possible for a company to own the rights over a game mechanics?

As an example...  PopCap over Match-Three.

Regards,
Andres Martinez
www.baKno.com

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From Joe.Schultz at ByDesignGames.com  Sat May 24 18:50:45 2008
From: Joe.Schultz at ByDesignGames.com (Joe Schultz)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 00:50:45 +0200
Subject: [casual_games] Game Variations
In-Reply-To: <223926C52C8EBF4DB30570260B67827303D22ACD@ex-be-006-sfo.shared.themessagecenter.com>
References: <223926C52C8EBF4DB30570260B67827303D22ACD@ex-be-006-sfo.shared.themessagecenter.com>
Message-ID: <046EBA4F-1B7C-4451-90DF-3F54D7652E3C@ByDesignGames.com>

Yeah, the only thing that keeps you from blatantly copying some one  
else's hard work for profit is your own conscious; your sense of what  
is right and what is wrong...

so you know, whatever that's worth to you.

j

On May 24, 2008, at 23:04h, Todd Sawicki wrote:

> Oh no not this again ;)
>
> This comes up every year and the answer is no.
>
> -todd
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org <casual_games-bounces at igda.org>
> To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>
> Sent: Sat May 24 12:11:38 2008
> Subject: [casual_games] Game Variations
>
> Hello
>
> The recent legal advice on comparative advertising encouraged me to
> post this question.
>
> Is it possible for a company to own the rights over a game mechanics?
>
> As an example...  PopCap over Match-Three.
>
> Regards,
> Andres Martinez
> www.baKno.com
>
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From andres at bakno.com  Sat May 24 19:05:47 2008
From: andres at bakno.com (Andres Martinez)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:05:47 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Game Variations
In-Reply-To: <223926C52C8EBF4DB30570260B67827303D22ACD@ex-be-006-sfo.shared.themessagecenter.com>
References: <223926C52C8EBF4DB30570260B67827303D22ACD@ex-be-006-sfo.shared.themessagecenter.com>
Message-ID: <BC4941EF-6455-4411-B37D-590CA3A3406F@bakno.com>

Thanks Todd

Sorry for bringing the subject back to the list.

Regards,
Andres Martinez
www.baKno.com

On May 24, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Todd Sawicki wrote:

> Oh no not this again ;)
>
> This comes up every year and the answer is no.
>
> -todd
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org <casual_games-bounces at igda.org>
> To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>
> Sent: Sat May 24 12:11:38 2008
> Subject: [casual_games] Game Variations
>
> Hello
>
> The recent legal advice on comparative advertising encouraged me to
> post this question.
>
> Is it possible for a company to own the rights over a game mechanics?
>
> As an example...  PopCap over Match-Three.
>
> Regards,
> Andres Martinez
> www.baKno.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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