From chriscow at bakedon.com  Wed Oct  1 19:55:25 2008
From: chriscow at bakedon.com (Chris Cowherd)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:55:25 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Fwd:  Up and coming CMMOs
In-Reply-To: <fd31b11f0810011637r7e0c5c1m87931f09b21e3a36@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD73DA7FAF05344382987CECCF23DF23051B24@sbs.futurlab.local>
	<86d373b40809290927o7d671aecu5ff13cb8351465c1@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <7f9be3b10810011655y628ba49bm4389b6fb48abcdbe@mail.gmail.com>

I've been keeping a pretty good eye on the space for about a year now.  I'm
seeing some interesting implementations but generally most fall into the
dress-up-chat-and-decorate bucket.  I think the players for this genre will
tire and be looking for more.

My kids like to play in virtual worlds, MMOs. Every time I find a new one, I
send them off to play it and gauge their response and I have found, over and
over that they continue to come back to Puzzle Pirates and yes, they want me
to buy doubloons. You're welcome Mr. James :)  Dressing up and chatting with
bad grammar tends to bore them.

Like a lot of folks, we are working on one as well.  I think there is still
plenty of space out there but I think differentiation will take you a long
way.  We are approaching it from the platform side, meaning we
are developing a server platform capable of delivering a much richer
experience in Flash with client side libraries to create a game of
significant scale (for Flash at least).

Chris Cowherd
BakedOn Entertainment <http://www.bakedon.com>

From: James Baker - WDDG/Funtank <james at wddg.com>
Date: Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Subject: [casual_games] Up and coming CMMOs
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>


  I was wondering if anyone is keeping an eye on the current crop of CMMOs.

I've been seeing quite a few pop up recently, so I was curious if anyone
thought that any of these new contenders might have a chance at being a new
puzzle-pirates or club-penguin.



At Candystand.com we're looking to possibly partner with one (or a couple)
of the CMMOs.





Thanks!



James Baker

WDDG/Funtank

candystand.com

j <James at wddg.com>ames at wddg.com

james at candystand.com

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From d.utian at unsw.edu.au  Sat Oct  4 01:13:17 2008
From: d.utian at unsw.edu.au (Dean Utian)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:13:17 +1000
Subject: [casual_games]  Director Roadmap Survey - Last Days
Message-ID: <5DAFA60717EC4AB1BF002D1780DCE430@deanutian>

Hi all,


Some of you may have seen my post in Director forums or Charles' one here.
For those who haven't, I've created a comprehensive survey to take a
snapshot of the views and expectations of users of Director. I'm going to
close the survey in 10 days. I'd love to get substantial numbers to validate
the results collected. So, I urge all who have some connection to Director
to visit the survey site and post your answers. The URL that will start you
off to the survey is at:
http://www.deansdirectortutorials.com/survey/DirectorRoadmap/ 

Once you get going with the survey, you'll see there are questions that ask
you to describe how you implement features in real products. These questions
can be time consuming. I'm happy for these to be skipped as I have a number
of responses already. But, still would like many more responses to the
feature ranking questions.

The survey asks what type of products people create. When I release the
results, I will give some analysis of how games developers compare to say
application developers. Of course, the more I get from each group, the more
meaningful this comparison becomes.



Thanks for reading.

 

regards

Dean

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From eric at darktonic.com  Mon Oct  6 13:41:19 2008
From: eric at darktonic.com (Eric Boosman)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 12:41:19 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Design resources
In-Reply-To: <86d373b40809290927o7d671aecu5ff13cb8351465c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD73DA7FAF05344382987CECCF23DF23051B24@sbs.futurlab.local>
	<86d373b40809290927o7d671aecu5ff13cb8351465c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <048c01c927da$be58e360$3b0aaa20$@com>

Hi Jade,

 

I can't recommend this book enough.  It's called The Art of Game Design, and
it's so chock full of specific ideas, thoughts and advice that I think
anyone doing game design of any type should read it (not just video games).

 

In addition, I think anyone involved in game development in any facet should
read this to help them understand the fundamental principles in game design
and why we play.  It gives a great big picture look at the process, as well
as practical advice for the details.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Art-Game-Design-book-lenses/dp/0123694965/ref=pd_bbs_s
r_1?ie=UTF8
<http://www.amazon.com/Art-Game-Design-book-lenses/dp/0123694965/ref=pd_bbs_
sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223314792&sr=8-1> &s=books&qid=1223314792&sr=8-1

 

Cheers,

 

Eric Boosman

Creative Director

Mock Science

 

 

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Juan Gril
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:27 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Design resources

 

http://www.igda.org/wiki/Casual_Games_SIG/Whitepaper/Production_and_Design

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Jade Tidy <jade at futurlab.co.uk> wrote:

Hey,

 

Can you recommend any books, websites or forums that can help expand my
knowledge for game design? The areas I'm specifically interested in are UI &
level design, especially how visuals can dictate play.

 

Many thanks,

 

Jade

 


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From oscar.oscar.oscar at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 15:36:20 2008
From: oscar.oscar.oscar at gmail.com (oscar is oscar)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 15:36:20 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Hello World 3.0! Oscar at Lucid Circus dot com here
Message-ID: <17025ae50810061236m288a26a6v8405f7235c9758df@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, after much tomfoolery I've decided to get out of the consultant racket
for a while and work with a firm with an established track record of success
and a phenomenal portfolio of satisfied clients.

I am now Executive Producer and Brand Manager for Lucid Circus. The bulk of
our work is done in and around Prague, and I'm here in NYC building out more
brands and getting people's projects done on time and under budget.

Please take a look at lucidcircus.com and be sure to check out our showreel
(top right corner).

We're looking to advance casual gaming as a platform and as a production
model, so please feel free to ping  me with inquiries and well wishes.

Let's make 09 the year that Casual REALLY makes it Mainstream!

Best,
Oscar de Leon
Brand Manager
Executive Producer
Lucid Circus
NYC/Prague
oscar at lucidcircus.com
917 720 4266
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From trebconnell at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 17:48:19 2008
From: trebconnell at gmail.com (Treb Connell)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:48:19 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Design resources
In-Reply-To: <048c01c927da$be58e360$3b0aaa20$@com>
References: <BD73DA7FAF05344382987CECCF23DF23051B24@sbs.futurlab.local>
	<86d373b40809290927o7d671aecu5ff13cb8351465c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<048c01c927da$be58e360$3b0aaa20$@com>
Message-ID: <cb4b9a6f0810061448q257ec42bpe86d46a0bee427e2@mail.gmail.com>

I will recommend reading "A Theory of Fun For Game Design", by Raph Koster,
a very interesting book.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Eric Boosman <eric at darktonic.com> wrote:

>  Hi Jade,
>
>
>
> I can't recommend this book enough.  It's called The Art of Game Design,
> and it's so chock full of specific ideas, thoughts and advice that I think
> anyone doing game design of any type should read it (not just video games).
>
>
>
> In addition, I think anyone involved in game development in any facet
> should read this to help them understand the fundamental principles in game
> design and why we play.  It gives a great big picture look at the process,
> as well as practical advice for the details.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Art-Game-Design-book-lenses/dp/0123694965/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223314792&sr=8-1
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Eric Boosman
>
> Creative Director
>
> Mock Science
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:
> casual_games-bounces at igda.org] *On Behalf Of *Juan Gril
> *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2008 11:27 AM
> *To:* IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [casual_games] Design resources
>
>
>
> http://www.igda.org/wiki/Casual_Games_SIG/Whitepaper/Production_and_Design
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Jade Tidy <jade at futurlab.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>
>
> Can you recommend any books, websites or forums that can help expand my
> knowledge for game design? The areas I'm specifically interested in are UI &
> level design, especially how visuals can dictate play.
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Jade
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casual_Games mailing list
> Casual_Games at igda.org
> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
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>
>
>
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From paul_steven at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  7 02:23:06 2008
From: paul_steven at btinternet.com (Paul Steven)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 07:23:06 +0100
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
In-Reply-To: <cb4b9a6f0810061448q257ec42bpe86d46a0bee427e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD73DA7FAF05344382987CECCF23DF23051B24@sbs.futurlab.local>	<86d373b40809290927o7d671aecu5ff13cb8351465c1@mail.gmail.com>	<048c01c927da$be58e360$3b0aaa20$@com>
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Message-ID: <01ca01c92845$297a1190$7c6e34b0$@com>

I need to write a voice over script for an educational game I am developing
and thought it would be useful to see some examples of formats of voice over
scripts. Perhaps there is a format voice over artists are familiar with or
prefer? If anyone can supply me with any sample voice over scripts I would
be most grateful.

 

Basically I was just going to create a word document with a number beside
each separate voice over chunk.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Paul

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From aaron at tandemgames.com  Tue Oct  7 10:03:37 2008
From: aaron at tandemgames.com (Aaron Murray)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:03:37 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
In-Reply-To: <01ca01c92845$297a1190$7c6e34b0$@com>
References: <BD73DA7FAF05344382987CECCF23DF23051B24@sbs.futurlab.local>
	<86d373b40809290927o7d671aecu5ff13cb8351465c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<048c01c927da$be58e360$3b0aaa20$@com>
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Hi Paul,
This is topical because I was just speaking with DB Cooper about voice over
scripts and what makes them good/bad. She was saying that most scripts she
has seen (from game companies) are excel spreadsheets that have numbers on
each line, and the words to say. If she is lucky she'll get a one word
emotion next to that.

This, she says, is about the worst case scenario for a voice actor because
there is no situational relevance for the lines. They don't know who they
are talking to, or if the line is uttered to self, etc. Also, there are
different levels of "angry" or "sad" depending on the situation.

So...she said that any close to a movie script is what they typically want,
and they *need* this to be able to deliver a quality performance.

That said, I am attaching the final version of a VO script we did for Crunch
Time. It has all of our version editing notes in there, so it may look
wonky, but you can see the thoughts & progression beside some of the word
choices, in addition to the script itself, which helps the actors understand
as much as they can.
The game itself is a simple demo (though it won the 08 Intel demo contest),
but is filled with quality VO we paid for.
You can either check out the .ogg files in the install folder, or play the
game to compare the script to the VO that was delivered.
Download it here if you want to listen:
http://www.vmcgamelabs.com/pixelandvega/CrunchTimeSetup.zip

I hope this helps. I'd also love to see what other companies have done for
their VO scripts.

Aaron Murray
Technical Director, Co-founder
Tandem Games
www.TandemGames.com
www.DomainOfHeroes.com
"Fun for All. All for Fun."

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Paul Steven <paul_steven at btinternet.com>wrote:

>   I need to write a voice over script for an educational game I am
> developing and thought it would be useful to see some examples of formats of
> voice over scripts. Perhaps there is a format voice over artists are
> familiar with or prefer? If anyone can supply me with any sample voice over
> scripts I would be most grateful.
>
>
>
> Basically I was just going to create a word document with a number beside
> each separate voice over chunk.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casual_Games mailing list
> Casual_Games at igda.org
> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
> Archive Search:
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From mike at pileatedpictures.com  Wed Oct  8 07:57:00 2008
From: mike at pileatedpictures.com (Michael Levine)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:57:00 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Up and coming CMMOs (Colin Cardwell)
In-Reply-To: <C5121307.1BE40%mike@pileated.com>
Message-ID: <C512184C.1BE49%mike@pileatedpictures.com>


Hi

Check out www.planetcazmo.com

We have been live since January, have hundreds of thousands of registered
users from over 160 countries, are in a deal with AOL and just added
Allposters.com support (so kids can put Star Wars and Hannah Montana on
their walls ? woohoo!).

We also create Hasbro?s only virtual world for the Littlest Pet Shop (VIPs)
which is live in 15 languages and 25 countries. We have very solid tech and
experience in creating and maintaining browser based virtual worlds. Despite
how crowded the space seems to have gotten, you can count the people who can
say they have made and supported one of these on just 1 or two hands. In my
opinion, if you think kids want Puzzle Pirates you don?t understand this
space at all, with all due respect. These kids who play Club Penguin and
Cazmo are very different animals than the ?gamers? the game industry has
been serving for years. These kids don?t care about games, or high scores,
etc, as much as they care about social activities and other interactions.

We have the tech in place to make a new virtual world live in a fraction of
the time of most, so if anyone is thinking of making these and wants to save
time and money, give us a holler!

Mike

--
Michael Levine
Pileated Pictures
http://www.pileated.com
http://www.planetcazmo.com
mike at pileated.com
413-625-8551



Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:00:04 -0400
From: James Baker - WDDG/Funtank <james at WDDG.com>
Subject: [casual_games] Up and coming CMMOs
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>
Message-ID:
    <A8CF81B4CA4D0D4ABB0D59EF80B8ED9B3BD2719C00 at eagle.WDDG.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I was wondering if anyone is keeping an eye on the current crop of CMMOs.
I've been seeing quite a few pop up recently, so I was curious if anyone
thought that any of these new contenders might have a chance at being a new
puzzle-pirates or club-penguin.

At Candystand.com we're looking to possibly partner with one (or a couple)
of the CMMOs.


Thanks!

James Baker
WDDG/Funtank
candystand.com
j<mailto:James at wddg.com>ames at wddg.com


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From jmurray at fuelindustries.com  Wed Oct  8 12:08:21 2008
From: jmurray at fuelindustries.com (Jeff Murray)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:08:21 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
In-Reply-To: <3129a3da0810070703h3da37208t725218550271bda7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C5125335.2AC7%jmurray@fuelindustries.com>

This is great, Aaron. Thanks for sharing this.

I agree and think that it?s very important to have clear directions for the
VO artists to get to grips with... Even if they end up doing a couple of
alternative takes to try other directions, it?s important that they
understand what is going on in the scene. I can?t count the number of times
I?ve seen VO scripts that are just random sentences on a sheet with no
direction at all ... It usually leads to lots of audio getting cut at the
last minute because it doesn?t fit with the tone of the scene or with other
characters dialog.

Your script is a great example of how to do VO properly and I urge everyone
to take note. Relying on the sound engineer to make the right creative
decisions on the VO is a bad idea ? they?re more than capable, but they
won?t always have the same level of vision that the game designers or
creative's had when the cut scenes were conceived.

Jeff (no relation) Murray.
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From asantamaria at artech.ca  Wed Oct  8 11:48:25 2008
From: asantamaria at artech.ca (Antonio Santamaria)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:48:25 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
In-Reply-To: <3129a3da0810070703h3da37208t725218550271bda7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD73DA7FAF05344382987CECCF23DF23051B24@sbs.futurlab.local>	<86d373b40809290927o7d671aecu5ff13cb8351465c1@mail.gmail.com>	<048c01c927da$be58e360$3b0aaa20$@com>	<cb4b9a6f0810061448q257ec42bpe86d46a0bee427e2@mail.gmail.com>	<01ca01c92845$297a1190$7c6e34b0$@com>
	<3129a3da0810070703h3da37208t725218550271bda7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48ECD649.7070707@artech.ca>

We've found that voice actors often prefer to work with scripts in the 
traditional "movie" format as well.  Something like this:

http://www.simplyscripts.com/WR_format.html

We've found that it is best to separate actors' scripts from one 
another, then format it accordingly.  That way, they have some kind of 
flow to their work and can get some kind of emotion beyond just reading 
one line after another.  The only times we've strayed is when having 
them read out lists of words that didn't have much context.

On a related note, when having them read things like categories or 
answers, we often found it helpful to have them read the whole line (ie. 
"The answer is dog") rather than just the word ("dog").  Otherwise, 
stitching comes across as unnatural, especially when VO sessions take 
place over several days.

There is some software out there (Final Draft, etc) that can help 
enforce the formatting for larger scripts.

Antonio


Aaron Murray wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> This is topical because I was just speaking with DB Cooper about voice 
> over scripts and what makes them good/bad. She was saying that most 
> scripts she has seen (from game companies) are excel spreadsheets that 
> have numbers on each line, and the words to say. If she is lucky 
> she'll get a one word emotion next to that. 
>
> This, she says, is about the worst case scenario for a voice actor 
> because there is no situational relevance for the lines. They don't 
> know who they are talking to, or if the line is uttered to self, etc. 
> Also, there are different levels of "angry" or "sad" depending on the 
> situation.
>
> So...she said that any close to a movie script is what they typically 
> want, and they *need* this to be able to deliver a quality performance.
>
> That said, I am attaching the final version of a VO script we did for 
> Crunch Time. It has all of our version editing notes in there, so it 
> may look wonky, but you can see the thoughts & progression beside some 
> of the word choices, in addition to the script itself, which helps the 
> actors understand as much as they can. 
> The game itself is a simple demo (though it won the 08 Intel demo 
> contest), but is filled with quality VO we paid for. 
> You can either check out the .ogg files in the install folder, or play 
> the game to compare the script to the VO that was delivered.
> Download it here if you want to 
> listen: http://www.vmcgamelabs.com/pixelandvega/CrunchTimeSetup.zip
>
> I hope this helps. I'd also love to see what other companies have done 
> for their VO scripts.
>
> Aaron Murray
> Technical Director, Co-founder
> Tandem Games
> www.TandemGames.com <http://www.TandemGames.com>
> www.DomainOfHeroes.com <http://www.DomainOfHeroes.com>
> "Fun for All. All for Fun."
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Paul Steven 
> <paul_steven at btinternet.com <mailto:paul_steven at btinternet.com>> wrote:
>
>     I need to write a voice over script for an educational game I am
>     developing and thought it would be useful to see some examples of
>     formats of voice over scripts. Perhaps there is a format voice
>     over artists are familiar with or prefer? If anyone can supply me
>     with any sample voice over scripts I would be most grateful.
>
>      
>
>     Basically I was just going to create a word document with a number
>     beside each separate voice over chunk.
>
>      
>
>     Thanks in advance
>
>      
>
>     Paul
>
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From hal at finitearts.com  Wed Oct  8 13:06:42 2008
From: hal at finitearts.com (Hal Barwood)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:06:42 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
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Developers like spreadsheets, but actors do indeed hate them, for all 
the reasons so far mentioned.  And without a doubt, quality suffers when 
readings emerge from Excel cells.

You and the actors both also need a good voice director -- presumably 
you, the project lead or designer, know what you're listening for, but 
then again, maybe not.  In any case a sound engineer is just someone who 
can get a good record of the performance.  A good voice director will 
know how to shape a performance to your liking, and better yet, how to 
do it quickly and efficiently.
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From Lennard at RustyAxe.com  Wed Oct  8 13:07:51 2008
From: Lennard at RustyAxe.com (Lennard)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:07:51 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
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From juangril at jojugames.com  Wed Oct  8 14:10:30 2008
From: juangril at jojugames.com (Juan Gril)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 11:10:30 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
In-Reply-To: <48ECE8A2.1010805@finitearts.com>
References: <C5125335.2AC7%jmurray@fuelindustries.com>
	<48ECE8A2.1010805@finitearts.com>
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This has been a very useful thread. We should include this type of info in
the White Paper, if you guys are ok with it.

Thanks guys,

Juan


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Hal Barwood <hal at finitearts.com> wrote:

> Developers like spreadsheets, but actors do indeed hate them, for all the
> reasons so far mentioned.  And without a doubt, quality suffers when
> readings emerge from Excel cells.
>
> You and the actors both also need a good voice director -- presumably you,
> the project lead or designer, know what you're listening for, but then
> again, maybe not.  In any case a sound engineer is just someone who can get
> a good record of the performance.  A good voice director will know how to
> shape a performance to your liking, and better yet, how to do it quickly and
> efficiently.
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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From hal at finitearts.com  Wed Oct  8 22:09:57 2008
From: hal at finitearts.com (Hal Barwood)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:09:57 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
In-Reply-To: <86d373b40810081110s32696037q8aa2b57d20125567@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C5125335.2AC7%jmurray@fuelindustries.com>	<48ECE8A2.1010805@finitearts.com>
	<86d373b40810081110s32696037q8aa2b57d20125567@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48ED67F5.5070006@finitearts.com>

I only wish that someone, somewhere, would produce an app that looks 
like a screenplay and operates like a database.  This is a much-needed 
production tool we all need.

The IGDA writers group was going to tackle this, but alas, I haven't 
seen it.


Juan Gril wrote:
> This has been a very useful thread. We should include this type of info 
> in the White Paper, if you guys are ok with it.
> 
> Thanks guys,
> 
> Juan
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Hal Barwood <hal at finitearts.com 
> <mailto:hal at finitearts.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Developers like spreadsheets, but actors do indeed hate them, for
>     all the reasons so far mentioned.  And without a doubt, quality
>     suffers when readings emerge from Excel cells.
> 
>     You and the actors both also need a good voice director --
>     presumably you, the project lead or designer, know what you're
>     listening for, but then again, maybe not.  In any case a sound
>     engineer is just someone who can get a good record of the
>     performance.  A good voice director will know how to shape a
>     performance to your liking, and better yet, how to do it quickly and
>     efficiently.
> 
> 
>     Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>     Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>     Version: 8.0.156 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1693 - Release Date:
>     9/26/2008 7:35 AM
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From roanebeard at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 23:23:35 2008
From: roanebeard at gmail.com (Roane Beard)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 20:23:35 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
In-Reply-To: <48ED67F5.5070006@finitearts.com>
References: <C5125335.2AC7%jmurray@fuelindustries.com>
	<48ECE8A2.1010805@finitearts.com>
	<86d373b40810081110s32696037q8aa2b57d20125567@mail.gmail.com>
	<48ED67F5.5070006@finitearts.com>
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In fact, there's a project within the writer's group intended to tackle this
very issue, along with a number of other issues related to having a standard
piece of software that supports game writing. The Writer's SIG is working
with Celtx to produce game writing software that will incorporate branching
dialogue, among other features, and the ability to spit out text in
screenplay format. I don't think database functionality is slated for the
first pass, but it's definitely one of the priorities.
Best,

Roane Beard
Legendary Spark

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Hal Barwood <hal at finitearts.com> wrote:

> I only wish that someone, somewhere, would produce an app that looks like a
> screenplay and operates like a database.  This is a much-needed production
> tool we all need.
>
> The IGDA writers group was going to tackle this, but alas, I haven't seen
> it.
>
>
> Juan Gril wrote:
>
>> This has been a very useful thread. We should include this type of info in
>> the White Paper, if you guys are ok with it.
>>
>> Thanks guys,
>>
>> Juan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Hal Barwood <hal at finitearts.com <mailto:
>> hal at finitearts.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    Developers like spreadsheets, but actors do indeed hate them, for
>>    all the reasons so far mentioned.  And without a doubt, quality
>>    suffers when readings emerge from Excel cells.
>>
>>    You and the actors both also need a good voice director --
>>    presumably you, the project lead or designer, know what you're
>>    listening for, but then again, maybe not.  In any case a sound
>>    engineer is just someone who can get a good record of the
>>    performance.  A good voice director will know how to shape a
>>    performance to your liking, and better yet, how to do it quickly and
>>    efficiently.
>>
>>
>>    Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>>    Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>    Version: 8.0.156 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1693 - Release Date:
>>    9/26/2008 7:35 AM
>>
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From paul_steven at btinternet.com  Thu Oct  9 01:55:09 2008
From: paul_steven at btinternet.com (Paul Steven)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 06:55:09 +0100
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
In-Reply-To: <3129a3da0810070703h3da37208t725218550271bda7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD73DA7FAF05344382987CECCF23DF23051B24@sbs.futurlab.local>	<86d373b40809290927o7d671aecu5ff13cb8351465c1@mail.gmail.com>	<048c01c927da$be58e360$3b0aaa20$@com>	<cb4b9a6f0810061448q257ec42bpe86d46a0bee427e2@mail.gmail.com>	<01ca01c92845$297a1190$7c6e34b0$@com>
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Thanks Aaron for sharing your voice over script - it is most helpful.
Creating a good script will hopefully ensure my studio and voice over time
are kept to a minimum.

 

And thanks to everyone else for the extremely useful comments/advice.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

 

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Aaron Murray
Sent: 07 October 2008 15:04
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Sample voice over script

 

Hi Paul,

 

This is topical because I was just speaking with DB Cooper about voice over
scripts and what makes them good/bad. She was saying that most scripts she
has seen (from game companies) are excel spreadsheets that have numbers on
each line, and the words to say. If she is lucky she'll get a one word
emotion next to that. 

 

This, she says, is about the worst case scenario for a voice actor because
there is no situational relevance for the lines. They don't know who they
are talking to, or if the line is uttered to self, etc. Also, there are
different levels of "angry" or "sad" depending on the situation.

 

So...she said that any close to a movie script is what they typically want,
and they *need* this to be able to deliver a quality performance.

 

That said, I am attaching the final version of a VO script we did for Crunch
Time. It has all of our version editing notes in there, so it may look
wonky, but you can see the thoughts & progression beside some of the word
choices, in addition to the script itself, which helps the actors understand
as much as they can. 

The game itself is a simple demo (though it won the 08 Intel demo contest),
but is filled with quality VO we paid for. 

You can either check out the .ogg files in the install folder, or play the
game to compare the script to the VO that was delivered.

Download it here if you want to listen:
http://www.vmcgamelabs.com/pixelandvega/CrunchTimeSetup.zip

 

I hope this helps. I'd also love to see what other companies have done for
their VO scripts.

 

Aaron Murray

Technical Director, Co-founder
Tandem Games
www.TandemGames.com
www.DomainOfHeroes.com
"Fun for All. All for Fun."

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Paul Steven <paul_steven at btinternet.com>
wrote:

I need to write a voice over script for an educational game I am developing
and thought it would be useful to see some examples of formats of voice over
scripts. Perhaps there is a format voice over artists are familiar with or
prefer? If anyone can supply me with any sample voice over scripts I would
be most grateful.

 

Basically I was just going to create a word document with a number beside
each separate voice over chunk.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Paul


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From d.utian at unsw.edu.au  Fri Oct 10 10:09:20 2008
From: d.utian at unsw.edu.au (Dean Utian)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:09:20 +1100
Subject: [casual_games]   Director Survey - Last Hours
In-Reply-To: <5DAFA60717EC4AB1BF002D1780DCE430@deanutian>
References: <5DAFA60717EC4AB1BF002D1780DCE430@deanutian>
Message-ID: <D05E4C2AEFC3427CB55BF7CBFF05E09F@deanutian>

Hi all,

While my survey hasn't been keeping track of where people are coming from in
finding my survey, the posts here haven't seemed to create any surge of
responses. However, I'm 30 away from 400 responses (well partial ones - 30
away from 300 total completed responses)> I'd love to get 30 more. I only
plan to have this survey open till the end of the weekend. If anyone has not
filled it in, or has a work colleague that should please do so ASAP.
http://www.deansdirectortutorials.com/survey/DirectorRoadmap/ 

Thanks.

Dean



From eric at darktonic.com  Fri Oct 10 11:54:33 2008
From: eric at darktonic.com (Eric Boosman)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:54:33 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Director Survey - Last Hours
In-Reply-To: <D05E4C2AEFC3427CB55BF7CBFF05E09F@deanutian>
References: <5DAFA60717EC4AB1BF002D1780DCE430@deanutian>
	<D05E4C2AEFC3427CB55BF7CBFF05E09F@deanutian>
Message-ID: <07d101c92af0$7db855c0$79290140$@com>

Hey Dean,

I looked at the survey page, but for our web casual stuff we're using Flash,
not Director.  I don't personally know any game devs using Director.  I knew
some instructional designers / training departments that made Director apps,
but none that are currently using it.

Best of luck,

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Dean Utian
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:09 AM
To: 'IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List'
Subject: [casual_games] Director Survey - Last Hours

Hi all,

While my survey hasn't been keeping track of where people are coming from in
finding my survey, the posts here haven't seemed to create any surge of
responses. However, I'm 30 away from 400 responses (well partial ones - 30
away from 300 total completed responses)> I'd love to get 30 more. I only
plan to have this survey open till the end of the weekend. If anyone has not
filled it in, or has a work colleague that should please do so ASAP.
http://www.deansdirectortutorials.com/survey/DirectorRoadmap/ 

Thanks.

Dean


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From d.utian at unsw.edu.au  Fri Oct 10 19:56:20 2008
From: d.utian at unsw.edu.au (Dean Utian)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:56:20 +1100
Subject: [casual_games] Director Survey - Last Hours
In-Reply-To: <07d101c92af0$7db855c0$79290140$@com>
References: <5DAFA60717EC4AB1BF002D1780DCE430@deanutian><D05E4C2AEFC3427CB55BF7CBFF05E09F@deanutian>
	<07d101c92af0$7db855c0$79290140$@com>
Message-ID: <0C15FF6109584D45B7C471112EEF24A8@deanutian>

Eric
>...don't personally know any game devs using Director.
>Best of luck,

There are a few. I've managed to get 25 people who say their primary use of
Director is 3D Games and 66 say their primary use 2D Shockwave games.

Of my sample group - currently at 384 - The top uses of Director are:
Game Dev (combining 2D and 3D) - 24.5%
Desktop application development - 22.7%
CD/DVD - 20.1%

The other uses have less than 10%.

regards
Dean


From guybendov at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 13 06:47:44 2008
From: guybendov at yahoo.com (Guy Bendov)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:47:44 +0200
Subject: [casual_games] distributing an online casual game for 4-10 yo
Message-ID: <A803A52D4963463BADC55D868A41E13E@GUYJB>

Hi
 
I am doing a marketing plan for the distribution of a new casual online game
for 4-12 year old kids (think club penguin). 
 
Seems like the best channels are games sites like miniclip.com and less the
"down loadable games" sites that aim to ages 30+ (even though they are
parents to kids at the target age).
 
1. What other distribution sites would you recommend ?
2. what other ways to get to kids at that age (can't / will not read, mostly
know about a site through word of mouth) would you use ?
 
Thank you

Guy Bendov


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From jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br  Mon Oct 13 12:48:31 2008
From: jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br (Jose Marin)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:48:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [casual_games] Market for casual games on Mac
Message-ID: <639402.69551.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi.

Is there a any recent research on the market for casual games on Mac?

Thanks.



      Novos endere?os, o Yahoo! que voc? conhece. Crie um email novo com a sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.
http://br.new.mail.yahoo.com/addresses

From jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br  Mon Oct 13 12:51:25 2008
From: jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br (Jose Marin)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [casual_games] Portability for casual games
Message-ID: <351600.35372.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi.

Someone knows where I can find some tips on how to write portable games?

I?d like my game would be available on many platforms.

Thanks


      Novos endere?os, o Yahoo! que voc? conhece. Crie um email novo com a sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.
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From chrisd at plaidworld.com  Mon Oct 13 13:02:45 2008
From: chrisd at plaidworld.com (Chris Dillman)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:02:45 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Market for casual games on Mac
In-Reply-To: <639402.69551.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <639402.69551.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p06200761c5192f498838@[192.168.0.101]>

>Hi.
>
>Is there a any recent research on the market for casual games on Mac?
>
>Thanks.


There are portals on the mac.

Big portals will sell more on the PC.

But a lot of smaller companies report sales of 50/50 mac PC.

-- 
Plaid World Studios http://www.plaidworld.com





From chrisd at plaidworld.com  Mon Oct 13 13:08:25 2008
From: chrisd at plaidworld.com (Chris Dillman)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:08:25 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Portability for casual games
In-Reply-To: <351600.35372.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <351600.35372.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p06200762c5192fb6a1c8@[192.168.0.101]>

>Hi.
>
>Someone knows where I can find some tips on how to write portable games?
>
>I?d like my game would be available on many platforms.

Off the top of my head.

OpenGL is good.

http://www.libsdl.org/



http://unity3d.com/ is excellent.


There http://www.garagegames.com/

But I can't recommend it.... YMMV of course.


A lot of folks have good things to say about

http://www.phelios.com/ptk/


http://www.blitzbasic.com/
Works on Mac/Win






-- 
Plaid World Studios http://www.plaidworld.com





From andrew at fugazo.com  Mon Oct 13 13:13:30 2008
From: andrew at fugazo.com (Andrew Lum)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:13:30 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Mac Revenue
In-Reply-To: <p06200761c5192f498838@[192.168.0.101]>
References: <639402.69551.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<p06200761c5192f498838@[192.168.0.101]>
Message-ID: <48F381BA.3000904@fugazo.com>

Hi Guys,

Fugazo has released Fashion Fits, Cooking Academy, and World Mosaics on 
Mac. For each title Mac sales have accounted for less than 10% of 
revenue probably more like 5%. Localization on the other hand has helped 
us quite a bit.

Andrew Lum

Chris Dillman wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Is there a any recent research on the market for casual games on Mac?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>
> There are portals on the mac.
>
> Big portals will sell more on the PC.
>
> But a lot of smaller companies report sales of 50/50 mac PC.
>


-- 
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andrew at fugazo.com
www.fugazo.com
P: 206-349-7805
F: 206-568-3455
CEO, President
Fugazo, Inc.


From miguelportilla at pobros.com  Mon Oct 13 13:25:48 2008
From: miguelportilla at pobros.com (Miguel Portilla)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:25:48 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Portability for casual games
In-Reply-To: <351600.35372.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <351600.35372.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48F3849C.5060808@pobros.com>

Do you mean technical coding tips or general game development advice? If 
the latter then I recommend you use some form of middleware to help you 
with portability. You want to spend your time developing your game(s) 
not the engine or framework. While there isn't a perfect solution 
available, there are some that will do a good enough job. The PlayFirst 
SDK is free to use and supports Windows, OSX and ActiveX. The Unity 3D 
engine costs money, supports Windows, OSX, ActiveX and other platforms 
for additional license fees. ActionScript is a great choice in terms of 
portability. If you are asking for programming advice then you would 
need to be more specific about the language you are using, tools and the 
target platforms.

-Miguel



Jose Marin wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Someone knows where I can find some tips on how to write portable games?
>
> I?d like my game would be available on many platforms.
>
> Thanks
>   

From rcarroll at reflexive.net  Tue Oct 14 16:27:24 2008
From: rcarroll at reflexive.net (Russell Carroll)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:27:24 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Mac Revenue
In-Reply-To: <48F381BA.3000904@fugazo.com>
References: <639402.69551.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com><p06200761c5192f498838@[192.168.0.101]>
	<48F381BA.3000904@fugazo.com>
Message-ID: <43299B48AED946AFB2340E218F5F1114@russ>

Reflexive has been releasing a lot of our games on Mac this year.  We also
added a Mac offering to Reflexive.com back in February and have been keenly
watching the sales numbers.

The results really vary from game to game.  For our own recently released
games (Airport Mania, Build in Time, Music Catch, Tree of Life, Swarm Gold),
we've seen the Mac version earning 3%-15% of the total revenue. (though
notably it varies WILDLY from game to game without many discernible
patterns)  

A challenge we've found with Mac games is getting them listed on the
portals.  There are only a few portals that carry Mac games (GH, BFG,
MacGameStore, Reflexive, PlayFirst) and we have found that even when we
deliver the Mac version simultaneously with the PC version that the portal
release of the Mac version is often delayed, not uncommonly for many months.
DRM issues seem to be a common culprit. 

The largest chunk of Mac sales often comes from Apple.com directly, and it
can create a lot of spillover sales for your other titles if you also sell
them directly (recommended!).  This adds a secondary benefit that isn't
currently available on PC very reminiscent of what Download.com did for game
selling 8-10 years ago.  Apple.com traffic can be absolutely immense if you
happen to be featured, and with a much smaller playing field on the Mac, it
is currently more likely that your game will be noticed in the Mac space
than the PC space.

That leads to another secondary benefit of 'Critical Mass.'  Putting your
game on Mac creates additional opportunities for awareness of the game,
which I strongly believe will increase your overall sales, but then I'm a
big believer in brand awareness and it having the ability to greatly
increase sales.


Russell Carroll
Reflexive Entertainment
(949) 830-1903 x14


-----Original Message-----
From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Andrew Lum
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:14 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: [casual_games] Mac Revenue

Hi Guys,

Fugazo has released Fashion Fits, Cooking Academy, and World Mosaics on 
Mac. For each title Mac sales have accounted for less than 10% of 
revenue probably more like 5%. Localization on the other hand has helped 
us quite a bit.

Andrew Lum

Chris Dillman wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Is there a any recent research on the market for casual games on Mac?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>
> There are portals on the mac.
>
> Big portals will sell more on the PC.
>
> But a lot of smaller companies report sales of 50/50 mac PC.
>


-- 
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www.fugazo.com
P: 206-349-7805
F: 206-568-3455
CEO, President
Fugazo, Inc.

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From jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br  Wed Oct 15 06:49:58 2008
From: jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br (Jose Marin)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:49:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [casual_games] Res:  Mac Revenue
Message-ID: <253595.5193.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for sharing your experiences, guys!




----- Mensagem original ----
De: Russell Carroll <rcarroll at reflexive.net>
Para: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>
Enviadas: Ter?a-feira, 14 de Outubro de 2008 17:27:24
Assunto: Re: [casual_games] Mac Revenue

Reflexive has been releasing a lot of our games on Mac this year.  We also
added a Mac offering to Reflexive.com back in February and have been keenly
watching the sales numbers.

The results really vary from game to game.  For our own recently released
games (Airport Mania, Build in Time, Music Catch, Tree of Life, Swarm Gold),
we've seen the Mac version earning 3%-15% of the total revenue. (though
notably it varies WILDLY from game to game without many discernible
patterns)  

A challenge we've found with Mac games is getting them listed on the
portals.  There are only a few portals that carry Mac games (GH, BFG,
MacGameStore, Reflexive, PlayFirst) and we have found that even when we
deliver the Mac version simultaneously with the PC version that the portal
release of the Mac version is often delayed, not uncommonly for many months.
DRM issues seem to be a common culprit. 

The largest chunk of Mac sales often comes from Apple.com directly, and it
can create a lot of spillover sales for your other titles if you also sell
them directly (recommended!).  This adds a secondary benefit that isn't
currently available on PC very reminiscent of what Download.com did for game
selling 8-10 years ago.  Apple.com traffic can be absolutely immense if you
happen to be featured, and with a much smaller playing field on the Mac, it
is currently more likely that your game will be noticed in the Mac space
than the PC space.

That leads to another secondary benefit of 'Critical Mass.'  Putting your
game on Mac creates additional opportunities for awareness of the game,
which I strongly believe will increase your overall sales, but then I'm a
big believer in brand awareness and it having the ability to greatly
increase sales.


Russell Carroll
Reflexive Entertainment
(949) 830-1903 x14


-----Original Message-----
From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Andrew Lum
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:14 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: [casual_games] Mac Revenue

Hi Guys,

Fugazo has released Fashion Fits, Cooking Academy, and World Mosaics on 
Mac. For each title Mac sales have accounted for less than 10% of 
revenue probably more like 5%. Localization on the other hand has helped 
us quite a bit.

Andrew Lum

Chris Dillman wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Is there a any recent research on the market for casual games on Mac?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>
> There are portals on the mac.
>
> Big portals will sell more on the PC.
>
> But a lot of smaller companies report sales of 50/50 mac PC.
>


-- 
Andrew Lum
andrew at fugazo.com
www.fugazo.com
P: 206-349-7805
F: 206-568-3455
CEO, President
Fugazo, Inc.

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From james at reflexive.net  Wed Oct 15 14:33:15 2008
From: james at reflexive.net (James C. Smith)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:33:15 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] The Casual Games Forum : 15% discount for IGDA
	Members
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From nak at alcatel-lucent.com  Wed Oct 15 18:33:13 2008
From: nak at alcatel-lucent.com (Kirby, Neil A (Neil))
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:33:13 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
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If there won't be a database backend, will this tool integrate somehow
into the asset control tool chain?  Getting voice talent onto disk is
the first step.  The crowd goes wild with applause at the news that
there will be a tool to make climbing this mountain easier.  Climbing
that mountain will reveal a big mountain that it was hiding: How do you
manage voice file assets now that you have them?

The simple rule is:
Manually == poorly

Thankfully the graphic art side of the house is already beating their
head against the same wall (or has a solution).  The assets need backup,
they and their script need version control, and you need to be able to
go from asset file to script or script to asset when you have a certain
version of one in front of you and you need the matching correct version
of the other.  

Allow me to suggest that the world gets ugly when the voice file
utterance is different than how the script reads.  "Now can you tell me
how you know that all of the rest of the files don't have any errors?"
is not what you want to hear from your management.  Especially when
there are bunch of files and they are in a foreign language.

--- 
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Roane Beard" <roanebeard at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Sample voice over script
To: "IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List" <casual_games at igda.org>
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In fact, there's a project within the writer's group intended to tackle
this
very issue, along with a number of other issues related to having a
standard
piece of software that supports game writing. The Writer's SIG is
working
with Celtx to produce game writing software that will incorporate
branching
dialogue, among other features, and the ability to spit out text in
screenplay format. I don't think database functionality is slated for
the
first pass, but it's definitely one of the priorities.
Best,

Roane Beard
Legendary Spark

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Hal Barwood <hal at finitearts.com> wrote:

> I only wish that someone, somewhere, would produce an app that looks
like a
> screenplay and operates like a database.  This is a much-needed
production
> tool we all need.
>
> The IGDA writers group was going to tackle this, but alas, I haven't
seen
> it.
>
>

From alex.ionescu at eprize.com  Fri Oct 17 14:40:58 2008
From: alex.ionescu at eprize.com (alex.ionescu at eprize.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:40:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [casual_games] Game Development Incentives
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Michigan offers up to 42% tax rebates on game development production - currently best in the USA. Would be glad to help companies apply and use these credits in Michigan this year and next.

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From aaron at tandemgames.com  Fri Oct 17 14:50:08 2008
From: aaron at tandemgames.com (Aaron Murray)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:50:08 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Game Development Incentives
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Louisiana is also offering big rebates for game companies, and I know TX is
*in the process* of making game biz more compelling.

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From FSThomas at leftbraingames.com  Fri Oct 17 15:28:41 2008
From: FSThomas at leftbraingames.com (FSThomas)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:28:41 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Game Development Incentives
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Aaron Murray wrote:
> Louisiana is also offering big rebates for game companies, and I know TX is
> *in the process* of making game biz more compelling.
>   

Georgia, too.

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From jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br  Mon Oct 20 11:56:02 2008
From: jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br (Jose Marin)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:56:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [casual_games] Tips for a (very) small starting company
Message-ID: <201367.89965.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi.

I and a friend will open a casual game development company soon, and would like to know your experiences about distribution.

What kind of channel would be good for such small company?

Also, what platforms (PC, palmtops, cell phones, etc) could be a good start for a small company?

We want to make very good games, but still don?t know how so sell them...

Thank you!

Jose

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From Lennard at RustyAxe.com  Mon Oct 20 12:03:59 2008
From: Lennard at RustyAxe.com (Lennard)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:03:59 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Tips for a (very) small starting company
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References: <201367.89965.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Selling them isn't too hard if you make something good. 

I would start with PC's - 2 talented people can still make something 
salable in the casual down loadable space.  Check out the newest games 
on any portal like Reflexive or Big Fish to get a feel for production 
values and what is currently being accepted.

Good luck!

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www.RustyAxe.com

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Jose Marin wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I and a friend will open a casual game development company soon, and would like to know your experiences about distribution.
>
> What kind of channel would be good for such small company?
>
> Also, what platforms (PC, palmtops, cell phones, etc) could be a good start for a small company?
>
> We want to make very good games, but still don?t know how so sell them...
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jose
>
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From aaron at tandemgames.com  Mon Oct 20 12:05:33 2008
From: aaron at tandemgames.com (Aaron Murray)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:05:33 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Tips for a (very) small starting company
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References: <201367.89965.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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PC is the cheapest/easiest dev platform IMHO. You can pitch your game
prototypes to the various casual portals. A publisher would help here though
as they have contacts at all of the portals, and it takes a lot of time from
a small team to do biz-dev, so if you aren't ready/willing/able to devote
that time...find someone to help you.

If you want to do traditional cell phone games, you'll need a publisher so
you can get your game on "the deck" at the various companies. You'll also
need to make/text dozens of variations for the different phone types. iPhone
is a little different. Costs $100 to get certified, but you'll still want a
publisher if you need an advertising budget.
Flash development might be an opportunity for you - there are plenty of
flash sites out there- but the revenues *typically* are based on
ads/impressions/etc - so your game will need to attract players and keep
them playing.


-- 
Aaron Murray
Technical Director, Co-founder
Tandem Games
www.TandemGames.com
www.DomainOfHeroes.com
"Fun for All. All for Fun."

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Jose Marin <jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br>wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I and a friend will open a casual game development company soon, and would
> like to know your experiences about distribution.
>
> What kind of channel would be good for such small company?
>
> Also, what platforms (PC, palmtops, cell phones, etc) could be a good start
> for a small company?
>
> We want to make very good games, but still don?t know how so sell them...
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jose
>
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From jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br  Mon Oct 20 13:48:14 2008
From: jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br (Jose Marin)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:48:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [casual_games] Res:  Tips for a (very) small starting company
Message-ID: <100679.89836.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So, loks like we will need a publisher to start.

Could you suggest one that won?t eat one of our?s legs? :-)



----- Mensagem original ----
De: Aaron Murray <aaron at tandemgames.com>
Para: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 20 de Outubro de 2008 14:05:33
Assunto: Re: [casual_games] Tips for a (very) small starting company


PC is the cheapest/easiest dev platform IMHO. You can pitch your game prototypes to the various casual portals. A publisher would help here though as they have contacts at all of the portals, and it takes a lot of time from a small team to do biz-dev, so if you aren't ready/willing/able to devote that time...find someone to help you.
If you want to do traditional cell phone games, you'll need a publisher so you can get your game on "the deck" at the various companies. You'll also need to make/text dozens of variations for the different phone types. iPhone is a little different. Costs $100 to get certified, but you'll still want a publisher if you need an advertising budget.

Flash development might be an opportunity for you - there are plenty of flash sites out there- but the revenues *typically* are based on ads/impressions/etc - so your game will need to attract players and keep them playing. 


-- 
Aaron Murray
Technical Director, Co-founder
Tandem Games
www.TandemGames.com
www.DomainOfHeroes.com
"Fun for All. All for Fun."


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Jose Marin <jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br> wrote:

Hi.

I and a friend will open a casual game development company soon, and would like to know your experiences about distribution.

What kind of channel would be good for such small company?

Also, what platforms (PC, palmtops, cell phones, etc) could be a good start for a small company?

We want to make very good games, but still don?t know how so sell them...

Thank you!

Jose

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From aaron at tandemgames.com  Mon Oct 20 15:29:12 2008
From: aaron at tandemgames.com (Aaron Murray)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:29:12 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Res: Tips for a (very) small starting company
In-Reply-To: <100679.89836.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <100679.89836.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3129a3da0810201229o1c938747p5b3e458663375655@mail.gmail.com>

Jose - I just want to clarify - I am not saying that you'll *need* a
publisher, and you definitely won't need one to start if you have the
time/money already.
What I am saying is that publishers often get a bad rap, but they have
services/experience/money to offer that can be very valuable.

That said - we've been working for about a year now, and we don't have a
publisher yet, though we are finally to the point where we'd like to start
talks with some.

-Aaron



On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Jose Marin <jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br>wrote:

> So, loks like we will need a publisher to start.
>
> Could you suggest one that won?t eat one of our?s legs? :-)
>
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: Aaron Murray <aaron at tandemgames.com>
> Para: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>
> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 20 de Outubro de 2008 14:05:33
> Assunto: Re: [casual_games] Tips for a (very) small starting company
>
>
> PC is the cheapest/easiest dev platform IMHO. You can pitch your game
> prototypes to the various casual portals. A publisher would help here though
> as they have contacts at all of the portals, and it takes a lot of time from
> a small team to do biz-dev, so if you aren't ready/willing/able to devote
> that time...find someone to help you.
>
> If you want to do traditional cell phone games, you'll need a publisher so
> you can get your game on "the deck" at the various companies. You'll also
> need to make/text dozens of variations for the different phone types. iPhone
> is a little different. Costs $100 to get certified, but you'll still want a
> publisher if you need an advertising budget.
> Flash development might be an opportunity for you - there are plenty of
> flash sites out there- but the revenues *typically* are based on
> ads/impressions/etc - so your game will need to attract players and keep
> them playing.
>
>
> --
> Aaron Murray
> Technical Director, Co-founder
> Tandem Games
> www.TandemGames.com
> www.DomainOfHeroes.com
> "Fun for All. All for Fun."
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Jose Marin <jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br>wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I and a friend will open a casual game development company soon, and would
>> like to know your experiences about distribution.
>>
>> What kind of channel would be good for such small company?
>>
>> Also, what platforms (PC, palmtops, cell phones, etc) could be a good
>> start for a small company?
>>
>> We want to make very good games, but still don?t know how so sell them...
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Jose
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Fale com seus amigos  de gra?a com o novo Yahoo! Messenger
>> http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casual_Games mailing list
>> Casual_Games at igda.org
>> http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
>> Archive: http://www.igda.org/casual-subscribe
>> Archive Search:
>> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010373383720242846960%3Az3tdwggxil8
>> List FAQ:
>> http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Casual_Games_SIG/Casual_Games_List_FAQ
>>
>
>
>
>
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>


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From rcarroll23 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 20 15:42:09 2008
From: rcarroll23 at hotmail.com (Rob C)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:42:09 +0000
Subject: [casual_games] Res:  Tips for a (very) small starting company
In-Reply-To: <100679.89836.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <100679.89836.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY122-W56EB31BFB8CB2B5D44BCC7D12F0@phx.gbl>




Hey Jose,

 

I would strongly recommend having a playable demo ready
before you go speaking to a publisher. Let them know what your skills are and
why they should be talking to you rather then the many other game studios out
there. 

 

Feel free to send me an e-mail off line with any other
start-up questions I might be able to help with. I?ve been through it a couple
of times, hopefully can save you some pain. 

 

Rob 

 

Rob Carroll

Producer Hive7

Rob at hive7.com





Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:48:14 -0700
From: jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br
To: casual_games at igda.org
Subject: [casual_games] Res:  Tips for a (very) small starting company



So, loks like we will need a publisher to start.

Could you suggest one that won?t eat one of our?s legs? :-)

----- Mensagem original ----
De: Aaron Murray <aaron at tandemgames.com>
Para: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 20 de Outubro de 2008 14:05:33
Assunto: Re: [casual_games] Tips for a (very) small starting company

PC is the cheapest/easiest dev platform IMHO. You can pitch your game prototypes to the various casual portals. A publisher would help here though as they have contacts at all of the portals, and
 it takes a lot of time from a small team to do biz-dev, so if you aren't ready/willing/able to devote that time...find someone to help you.

If you want to do traditional cell phone games, you'll need a publisher so you can get your game on "the deck" at the various companies. You'll also need to make/text dozens of variations for the different phone types. iPhone is a little different. Costs $100 to get certified, but you'll still want a publisher if you need an advertising budget.

Flash development might be an opportunity for you - there are plenty of flash sites out there- but the revenues *typically* are based on ads/impressions/etc - so your game will need to attract players and keep them playing. 


-- 
Aaron Murray
Technical Director, Co-founder
Tandem Games
www.TandemGames.com
www.DomainOfHeroes.com

"Fun for All. All for Fun."

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Jose Marin <jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br> wrote:

Hi.



I and a friend will open a casual game development company soon, and would like to know your experiences about distribution.



What kind of channel would be good for such small company?



Also, what platforms (PC, palmtops, cell phones, etc) could be a good start for a small company?



We want to make very good games, but still don?t know how so sell them...



Thank you!



Jose



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From alex.ionescu at eprize.com  Wed Oct 22 10:36:32 2008
From: alex.ionescu at eprize.com (Alex Ionescu)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:36:32 -0400
Subject: [casual_games] Fall 2008 US Production Incentives Guide
In-Reply-To: <3129a3da0810201229o1c938747p5b3e458663375655@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C524B2B1.39D4%alex.ionescu@eprize.com>

The incentives office has issued its Fall Guide:

http://theincentivesoffice.com/Fall2008.pdf

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From dbahlman at xblitz.com  Thu Oct 23 17:06:08 2008
From: dbahlman at xblitz.com (Donald)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:06:08 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Recession Proof?
Message-ID: <4572C1C7F3DD4F76AAF973384127E17C@xBlitzGames>

Hi everyone,

In Casual Connect Seattle, it was brought up that casual games might just be recession proof.  So I'm just curious what's your experience?

Have your sales recently increased or decreased?  Also have you noticed any differences between downloads to conversions?  And why do you think that is?

Our sales have been staying about the same.
Love to hear from everyone.

Thanks!

Don
xBlitz Entertainment
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From tomh at mofactor.com  Sat Oct 25 20:44:06 2008
From: tomh at mofactor.com (Tom Hubina)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:44:06 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Free Online Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <200809211723.m8LHNtY28340@dev-biz.com>
References: <200809211723.m8LHNtY28340@dev-biz.com>
Message-ID: <4A655DBE-D35C-41F0-9D8E-BE74043AA851@mofactor.com>

Does anyone know of a place to get definitions (preferably for free!)  
for words that I can use in my word game?

Tom

From diogo.neves at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 20:48:35 2008
From: diogo.neves at gmail.com (Diogo Neves)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:48:35 +0100
Subject: [casual_games] Free Online Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <4A655DBE-D35C-41F0-9D8E-BE74043AA851@mofactor.com>
References: <200809211723.m8LHNtY28340@dev-biz.com>
	<4A655DBE-D35C-41F0-9D8E-BE74043AA851@mofactor.com>
Message-ID: <c6bd420810251748o5c451d0brd13e81b0de6986a@mail.gmail.com>

Check this website: http://dictionary.reference.com/
I hope that it helps ;)

Diogo Neves
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dneves


2008/10/26 Tom Hubina <tomh at mofactor.com>

> Does anyone know of a place to get definitions (preferably for free!) for
> words that I can use in my word game?
>
> Tom
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From tomh at mofactor.com  Sat Oct 25 21:10:07 2008
From: tomh at mofactor.com (Tom Hubina)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:10:07 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Free Online Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <c6bd420810251748o5c451d0brd13e81b0de6986a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200809211723.m8LHNtY28340@dev-biz.com>
	<4A655DBE-D35C-41F0-9D8E-BE74043AA851@mofactor.com>
	<c6bd420810251748o5c451d0brd13e81b0de6986a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8B7CC26A-8CAA-445C-84FC-199D9968814B@mofactor.com>

I want to be able to put the definitions in my game and not send them  
out to another site.

Tom

On Oct 25, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Diogo Neves wrote:

> Check this website: http://dictionary.reference.com/
> I hope that it helps ;)
>
> Diogo Neves
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dneves
>
>
> 2008/10/26 Tom Hubina <tomh at mofactor.com>
> Does anyone know of a place to get definitions (preferably for  
> free!) for words that I can use in my word game?
>
> Tom
> _______________________________________________
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From awalker at lexigame.com  Sat Oct 25 22:08:54 2008
From: awalker at lexigame.com (Alan Walker)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:08:54 +1100
Subject: [casual_games] Free Online Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <8B7CC26A-8CAA-445C-84FC-199D9968814B@mofactor.com>
Message-ID: <LNEOLDLHECDEHCBBDCEGKEEFEBAA.awalker@lexigame.com>

You can download data from Wiktionary - see
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Help:FAQ#Downloading_Wiktionary.

You can also download the Princeton WordNet Database and use it in
commercial projects - see http://wordnet.princeton.edu/obtain. It is not
designed to be a dictionary, but you can get definitions from it, and many
"dictionary" websites are based on it.

Regards,
Alan Walker
http://chi.lexigame.com


From paul_steven at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 27 05:19:53 2008
From: paul_steven at btinternet.com (Paul Steven)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:19:53 -0000
Subject: [casual_games] Dummy voice over
In-Reply-To: <LNEOLDLHECDEHCBBDCEGKEEFEBAA.awalker@lexigame.com>
References: <8B7CC26A-8CAA-445C-84FC-199D9968814B@mofactor.com>
	<LNEOLDLHECDEHCBBDCEGKEEFEBAA.awalker@lexigame.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c93815$2c638c80$852aa580$@com>

I am developing a series of games that have a considerable amount of voice
over. Ideally I would like to record the voice over as late as possible so I
can be sure I have considered all eventualities. However I really need to
have some voice over to enable me to program and test the games. One
possibility is for me to just record a rough version myself however I
wondered if there is any other alternatives? Perhaps there is a program that
I can type into and it will output a wav of text to speech?

Any advice much appreciated!

Thanks

Paul


From aaron at tandemgames.com  Mon Oct 27 07:46:17 2008
From: aaron at tandemgames.com (Aaron Murray)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:46:17 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Dummy voice over
In-Reply-To: <002a01c93815$2c638c80$852aa580$@com>
References: <8B7CC26A-8CAA-445C-84FC-199D9968814B@mofactor.com>
	<LNEOLDLHECDEHCBBDCEGKEEFEBAA.awalker@lexigame.com>
	<002a01c93815$2c638c80$852aa580$@com>
Message-ID: <3129a3da0810270446o50b9fed5j3b7ac7cb677998ac@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Paul,
Personally I like placeholder audio, but I've been advised against it by
some audio people because sometimes it gets left in, or even worse, the
developers get used to it and they want the real sound/tracks/voice to be
familiar, which can cause problems. That said, I use placeholder audio when
possible.

As for a tool, I've used this web tool before:
http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php

Surely there are some windows tools available, I just haven't used any.

-Aaron

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Paul Steven <paul_steven at btinternet.com>wrote:

> I am developing a series of games that have a considerable amount of voice
> over. Ideally I would like to record the voice over as late as possible so
> I
> can be sure I have considered all eventualities. However I really need to
> have some voice over to enable me to program and test the games. One
> possibility is for me to just record a rough version myself however I
> wondered if there is any other alternatives? Perhaps there is a program
> that
> I can type into and it will output a wav of text to speech?
>
> Any advice much appreciated!
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
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From achaves at ecuaserver.net  Mon Oct 27 10:48:01 2008
From: achaves at ecuaserver.net (Alfredo Chaves)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:48:01 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] Dummy voice over
In-Reply-To: <3129a3da0810270446o50b9fed5j3b7ac7cb677998ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8B7CC26A-8CAA-445C-84FC-199D9968814B@mofactor.com>	<LNEOLDLHECDEHCBBDCEGKEEFEBAA.awalker@lexigame.com>	<002a01c93815$2c638c80$852aa580$@com>
	<3129a3da0810270446o50b9fed5j3b7ac7cb677998ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c93843$06251e70$126f5b50$@net>

Hello Paul,

 

I have used Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/), open-source and
Linux/Mac/PC.

Nothing fancy but surely good enough for placeholder audio.

Hope this helps.

 

Alfredo Chaves

www.bluelizardgames.com

 

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Aaron Murray
Sent: October-27-08 6:46 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Dummy voice over

 

Hi Paul, 

 

Personally I like placeholder audio, but I've been advised against it by
some audio people because sometimes it gets left in, or even worse, the
developers get used to it and they want the real sound/tracks/voice to be
familiar, which can cause problems. That said, I use placeholder audio when
possible.

 

As for a tool, I've used this web tool before:
http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php

 

Surely there are some windows tools available, I just haven't used any.

 

-Aaron

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Paul Steven <paul_steven at btinternet.com>
wrote:

I am developing a series of games that have a considerable amount of voice
over. Ideally I would like to record the voice over as late as possible so I
can be sure I have considered all eventualities. However I really need to
have some voice over to enable me to program and test the games. One
possibility is for me to just record a rough version myself however I
wondered if there is any other alternatives? Perhaps there is a program that
I can type into and it will output a wav of text to speech?

Any advice much appreciated!

Thanks

Paul

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From mick.donahoo at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 20:39:58 2008
From: mick.donahoo at gmail.com (Mick Donahoo)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:39:58 -0700
Subject: [casual_games] Free Online Dictionary
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Hey Tom,

Check this link out:  http://wordlist.sourceforge.net/

We have tinkered with the 12dicts version that is shown on this list.   
There are a bunch of other lists posted at the above URL, but not sure  
how good they are.

Mick



http://www.freezetag.com

On Oct 25, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Tom Hubina wrote:

> I want to be able to put the definitions in my game and not send  
> them out to another site.
>
> Tom
>
> On Oct 25, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Diogo Neves wrote:
>
>> Check this website: http://dictionary.reference.com/
>> I hope that it helps ;)
>>
>> Diogo Neves
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dneves
>>
>>
>> 2008/10/26 Tom Hubina <tomh at mofactor.com>
>> Does anyone know of a place to get definitions (preferably for  
>> free!) for words that I can use in my word game?
>>
>> Tom
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