From talshannon at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 13 14:04:21 2009
From: talshannon at hotmail.com (Audry Taylor)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:04:21 -0800
Subject: [casual_games] Subscription numbers
In-Reply-To: <057001c95ec8$3ac99790$b05cc6b0$@com>
References: <200812120135.mBC1ZX897460@dev-biz.com>
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	<04a501c95ea3$f9b775c0$ed266140$@com>	<494659B8.8010006@pobros.com>
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What's the best site to go to for information about the current estimated value of the casual industry, as well as for how subscription models are doing versus per game sales?

Audry T.
http://www.gocomi.com



From: paul_steven at btinternet.com
To: casual_games at igda.org
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:17:22 +0000
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Installers



















Thanks Aaron and Miguel ? InnoSetup looks perfect for the
Windows side of things. Now to find a Mac installer!! As far as I can see,
InnoSetup does not offer a mac installer ? is that correct?

 



From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org
[mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Murray

Sent: 15 December 2008 14:56

To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List

Subject: Re: [casual_games] Installers



 

I've used InnoSetup many times. 



 





http://www.innosetup.com/isinfo.php





 





It is free, small, and very configurable (via
scripts). 





 





There is a tool that provides a user interface for creating
the scripts that I highly recommend: http://www.istool.org/





 





We used Innosetup/ISTool for our Crunch Time installers on
PC/Mac and haven't had any problems.





 





Aaron Murray





Technical Director, Founder

Tandem Games

www.TandemGames.com

www.DomainOfHeroes.com

"Fun for All. All for Fun."



On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Miguel Portilla <miguelportilla at pobros.com>
wrote:



Hi Paul,



On the Windows side Inno is good, free to use even for commercial projects. http://www.jrsoftware.org/isdl.php



Best,

Miguel Portilla

PoBros, Inc.



 





Paul Steven wrote: 







I have created a series of 4
flash games that are to be distributed as executables via the web and I need
advice on how to create installers for these games for both PC and Mac.

 

The client has requested these
games are each distributed as installer files that will allow the user to
choose where on their machine the game is installed and add the relevant
program group and uninstall option.

 

The games are all single files
with all assets embedded into the flash movies. It has been many years since I
have created installers and I think back in the days I used Wise for the Mac
and Install Shield for the PC.

 

I would therefore like advice
on a free or relatively cheap installer for each platform. The PC one needs to
be Vista compatible.

 

I also have a related question
as to what format of file is acceptable for downloading. On the PC side, I
assume the installer would create an executable file but I was under the
impression people do not like downloading exe files? I would therefore
appreciate advice on what format others offer their downloadable games in (for
both PC and Mac)

 

Thanks in advance

 

Paul 










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From katelyn.friedson at flycell.com  Tue Jan 13 18:40:37 2009
From: katelyn.friedson at flycell.com (Katelyn Friedson)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:40:37 +0100
Subject: [casual_games] New Games Portal
Message-ID: <0BB3B653C564064E862739201885396F0488F364@office01.office.itrm.acotel.com>

Hi All,

My name is Katelyn Friedson, and I work in product development for
Flycell.

Flycell is creating a casual games and I'm interested in connecting with
people in the industry, learning more about the business, etc and wanted
to reach out to you.

I'm eager to connect with developers, publishers or other players in the
space to chat about the business in general, or as it relates to
Flycell's opportunity.

If you think there may be an opportunity for us to work together, or if
you're able to chat, please feel free to contact via email. 

We're also focused on building a catalog of licensed PC games for the
portal and are always looking for top titles, as well.

My profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/katelynfriedson
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/katelynfriedson> 

Cheers,

Katelyn

 

 

 

Katelyn Friedson 

FLYCELL inc.

Product Manager- Mobile Services

120 Broadway, 15th Floor New York, NY 10271

Phone: +1 (212) 400.1212 ext 478 | Fax: +1 (212) 714.0738

Mobile: +1 (339) 223.0596

Email: katelyn.friedson at flycell.com
<mailto:katelyn.friedson at flycell.com> 

 

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From brian at gameequation.com  Wed Jan 14 02:44:38 2009
From: brian at gameequation.com (Brian Meidell Andersen)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:44:38 +0100
Subject: [casual_games] New Games Portal
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References: <0BB3B653C564064E862739201885396F0488F364@office01.office.itrm.acotel.com>
Message-ID: <7FF24BD9-78A3-4324-A838-4E805C46833D@gameequation.com>

Hello Katelyn,

I'd be happy to chat.
I also have a single game that sells pretty well, and we're always  
looking for more distribution opportunities for that.

Regards,
Brian

On Jan 14, 2009, at 12:40 AM, Katelyn Friedson wrote:

> Hi All,
> My name is Katelyn Friedson, and I work in product development for  
> Flycell.
> Flycell is creating a casual games and I?m interested in connecting  
> with people in the industry, learning more about the business, etc  
> and wanted to reach out to you.
> I?m eager to connect with developers, publishers or other players in  
> the space to chat about the business in general, or as it relates to  
> Flycell's opportunity.
> If you think there may be an opportunity for us to work together, or  
> if you're able to chat, please feel free to contact via email.
> We're also focused on building a catalog of licensed PC games for  
> the portal and are always looking for top titles, as well.
> My profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/katelynfriedson
> Cheers,
> Katelyn
>
>
>
> Katelyn Friedson
> FLYCELL inc.
> Product Manager- Mobile Services
> 120 Broadway, 15th Floor New York, NY 10271
> Phone: +1 (212) 400.1212 ext 478 | Fax: +1 (212) 714.0738
> Mobile: +1 (339) 223.0596
> Email: katelyn.friedson at flycell.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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From brian at gameequation.com  Wed Jan 14 02:48:16 2009
From: brian at gameequation.com (Brian Meidell Andersen)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:48:16 +0100
Subject: [casual_games] New Games Portal
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	<7FF24BD9-78A3-4324-A838-4E805C46833D@gameequation.com>
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Sorry people, that was obviously not intended for the list :) Sneaky  
reply-to.

/Brian

On Jan 14, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Brian Meidell Andersen wrote:

> Hello Katelyn,
>
> I'd be happy to chat.
> I also have a single game that sells pretty well, and we're always  
> looking for more distribution opportunities for that.
>
> Regards,
> Brian
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From thb at gameattorney.com  Tue Jan 13 13:30:39 2009
From: thb at gameattorney.com (Thomas H. Buscaglia)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:30:39 -0800
Subject: [casual_games] IGDA Board Elections
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Board of Director Elections - 2009





Call for Nominees

We would like to invite members to submit 
nominations for the IGDA board of directors. We 
are filling four open board seats. In particular, 
the Board would like to encourage developers of 
all disciplines and levels to consider running 
for the board. You do not have to be a "star" or 
run a studio to be a valuable contributor to the IGDA Board.

Nominations are due by Thursday, January 22nd.

The nomination procedure is simple, and open to 
all IGDA members in good standing. If you would 
like to run for election please read through the 
<http://www.igda.org/board/IGDA_Election_Manual.pdf>IGDA 
Election Policies and Procedures Manual (134kb - 
pdf) and email <mailto:jason at igda.org>Jason Della 
Rocca - jason at igda.org  to receive the 
nominations package. As noted in the Manual, 
you'll need to fax in your signed "nomination 
certificate" as soon as possible, but no later 
than January 22nd. Also due on January 22nd is a 
statement of up to 400 words concerning your 
candidacy. This statement will form the basis of 
your candidacy, as it will appear on the IGDA 
website, emailed to all members, etc.

The key dates are:
    * Thursday, January 22nd: Nomination 
certificate with statement due from candidates
    * Monday, February 2nd: Ballots sent to members
    * Tuesday, February 24th: Votes due back from members
    * Saturday, March 1st: Terms begin for new directors

View the 
<http://www.igda.org/board/IGDA_Election_Manual.pdf>I<http://www.igda.org/board/IGDA_Election_Manual.pdf>GDA 
Election Policies and Procedures Manual (134kb - 
pdf) for complete details on the IGDA election 
process and requirements. http://www.igda.org/board/IGDA_Election_Manual.pdf

Serving on the board is a significant 
responsibility and should not be taken lightly. 
It is a very powerful way to have an impact on 
the game development industry and to help build 
something worthwhile for our industry. Game 
developers face many challenges in today's 
business and cultural climate, including talent 
shortages, lack of professional advancement, 
attacks on our industry from politicians and 
cultural critics, legal implications of 
technology, platform transitions, and much more. 
The idea behind the IGDA is that whatever 
challenges one game developer faces, others may 
experience as well. The strength of the 
organization comes from finding these common 
issues and addressing them as a collective.

The Board is ultimately responsible for the 
ongoing well being and governance of the IGDA, 
ensuring that the organization is on target to 
fulfill its mission of advancing the careers and 
enriching the lives of its member game 
developers. The three big picture roles for Board members are:
    * Visionaries: Set strategic direction and priorities.
    * Evangelists: Serve as ambassadors and 
generate buy-in for the IGDA and its mission.
    * Overseers: Monitor and evaluate the results of the organization.

More practically speaking, Board members devote 
several hours each month to participate in 
monthly conference calls, decide policy, evaluate 
the executive staff, brainstorm programs, review 
financials, plan activities, lead committees, 
consult with lawyers, recruit members, 
participate in discussion boards, evangelize the 
Association's mission, and any number of other 
tasks that might need doing. In addition, the 
Board meets twice a year for weekend workshops to 
focus exclusively on the needs of the IGDA, its 
present status, direction and future growth.

Tom B

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From jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br  Thu Jan 15 05:33:22 2009
From: jose_marin2 at yahoo.com.br (Jose Marin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:33:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [casual_games] Selling casual games on Steam
Message-ID: <952662.34667.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi.

Has someone any experience/statistics/oppinion about selling ames via Valve?s Steam?

Thanks

Jose


      Veja quais s?o os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados
http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com

From Joe.Schultz at ByDesignGames.com  Thu Jan 15 05:45:48 2009
From: Joe.Schultz at ByDesignGames.com (Joe Schultz)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:15:48 +0530
Subject: [casual_games] Selling casual games on Steam
In-Reply-To: <952662.34667.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <952662.34667.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <89B4E6DB-A70E-4D22-BF16-7D2D9E73FD2E@ByDesignGames.com>

We've had some, but it was sketchy. To start, Valve contacted us in  
regards to getting our title Make Bouncy Bouncy up on Steam.

After preliminary term discussion over email we found agreement,  
progressed through NDA and set up a time for the meeting. Upon the day  
of the meeting, no word from Valve.

Following that, attempts to contact Valve received 0 response. Have  
sent follow-up mails every so often, even phoned Kirkland. That was 6  
months ago. Still don't know what happened there, we're left  
completely in the dark.


Prior to this my experience with Valve guys (Gabe, Randy etc.) is that  
they're simply awesome without fail, but this experience was dubious  
and confusing.

Maybe not the info you're after, but hope it helps someone.

joe

Joe Schultz
Game Director
ByDesign Games
joe.schultz at bydesigngames.com
http://www.bydesigngames.com

On Jan 15, 2009, at 16:03h, Jose Marin wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Has someone any experience/statistics/oppinion about selling ames  
> via Valve?s Steam?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jose
>
>
>      Veja quais s?o os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados
> http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com
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From nicolas at qb9.net  Thu Jan 15 06:55:18 2009
From: nicolas at qb9.net (Nicolas Cohen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:55:18 -0200
Subject: [casual_games] Who is going to hamburg
Message-ID: <C9F8D80D-2E29-4586-A3C4-AC92FE1EAAF9@qb9.net>

Hi,

we'll be in hamburg in february

for the last years we've been constantly developing high quality  
downloadable and online games
we are looking for publishing opportunities for our downloadable games  
and partnership opportunities for our recently created browser-based  
mmo development team

send me an email if you are interested

regards,

Nicolas Cohen
Business Developer

QB9
BA +(54 11) 4855 9371
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolascohentarica

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From thb at gameattorney.com  Thu Jan 15 11:47:32 2009
From: thb at gameattorney.com (Thomas H. Buscaglia)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:47:32 -0800
Subject: [casual_games] Selling casual games on Steam
In-Reply-To: <952662.34667.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <952662.34667.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901151647.n0FGlg807802@dev-biz.com>

I have a few clients selling through Steam.  For 
"core casual" (casual games that appeal to core 
gamers) they are the best as far a  I am 
concerned.  Their royalty rate is almost 2x the 
standard portal (heh) rate.  AN they have over 
15M installs of steam, though that is probably not active users.

Of all of the contracts I have reviewed, theirs 
is the fairest I have ever seem...and they pay monthly without hassle or BS.

They are very tight about their sales numbers so nothing much there...

The only down side is that they are understaffed 
a bit so at times you may have to send a few emails to engage them.

Tom B

tAt 02:33 AM 1/15/2009, you wrote:
>Hi.
>
>Has someone any experience/statistics/oppinion 
>about selling ames via Valve?s Steam?
>
>Thanks
>
>Jose
>
>
>       Veja quais s?o os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados
>http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com
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From karen19 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 17:09:53 2009
From: karen19 at gmail.com (Karen S)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:09:53 -0500
Subject: [casual_games] DUE TODAY: Ethics and Games Book Chapter Proposals
Message-ID: <24eaa61e0901151409q4286985v2b58680dfbb4d6dd@mail.gmail.com>

Due today!

Chapter proposals for "Ethics and Game Design: Teaching Values through Play."

And, please join the Ethics and Game Design Facebook Group at:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=39391086363&ref=ts

Thanks!
Karen
_____


I am editing a new book with David Gibson called "Ethics and Game
Design: Teaching Values through Play," to be published by Information
Science Reference (formerly Idea Group Reference) (an imprint of IGI
Global), scheduled for release in 2010.

I invite you all to contribute to the book, which will provide a
diverse and comprehensive compendium of case studies, theoretical
frameworks, and empirical research in the emerging field of ethics
development through games and play. Your proposal would be due on or
before January 15, 2009 (a brief two to three-page synopsis will
suffice), with accepted proposals notified by February 1, 2009. The
full chapter is due by April 1, 2009.

We are looking for academics and practitioners from a wide variety of
disciplines and perspectives to contribute.

Full call: http://www.columbia.edu/~kls2108/callforchapters.htm

Thanks!
Karen Schrier

CALL FOR CHAPTER PROPOSALS
Proposal Submission Deadline: January 15, 2009
Ethics and Game Design: Teaching Values through Play
A book edited by Karen Schrier, Teachers College, Columbia University,
USA, and Dr. David Gibson, University of Vermont, USA
http://www.columbia.edu/~kls2108/callforchapters.htm

Introduction
Ethics is the practice of enacting moral judgment to achieve a better
life?the process of making choices according to one's own conception
of how to be a good person. Games and simulations can be rich
playgrounds for the practice of these ethical choices, as they offer
the ability to iterate and reflect on multiple possibilities and
consequences. As such, educators and researchers are beginning to
consider the use of games in supporting ethical reasoning and
character development. Moreover, games have been and continue to be
the subject of conversations, controversies, and deliberations about
ethics. Game developers, publishers, and the public often differ in
opinion about the choices made in the creation and promotion of a
game, bringing up larger questions about the role of entertainment,
art, and business in our society. The potential for games to foster
ethical thinking and discourse?and not whether games are inherently
good or bad?will be the thrust of this timely book.

Objective of the Book
Ethics and Games Design will provide a diverse and comprehensive
compendium of case studies, theoretical frameworks, and empirical
research in the emerging field of ethics, values, games, and play.
This book will take a cross-disciplinary approach, inviting research,
critiques, and perspectives from computer science, education,
philosophy, law, media studies, management, psychology, and art
history. The publication has three main goals. First, it will seek to
define this emerging and essential new field. Second, this book will
serve as a collective source for students, educators, practitioners,
and researchers who are interested in understanding the current state
of the discipline. It will locate the field diachronically and
thematically, while highlighting the work of both well-established and
emerging researchers and practitioners. Finally, this publication will
inspire and motivate further interdisciplinary dialogue and research
on the topic of ethics and games. It will frame the major research
questions, issues, methodologies and problems, which we can then use
to both expand and refine the field. Such a rigorous foundation for
the study of ethics will help to appropriately inform future games,
policies, standards, curricula, products, and the like.

Target Audience
The target audience is very diverse, ranging from practitioners of
game development to journalists, to philosophers and educators.
Researchers and students studying game design, media and games will
find this an essential text for understanding how to better design,
teach, and study the current generation of learners. Educators will
use this to further their understanding of the potentials and limits
of games, and how to creatively incorporate emerging technology into
their curricula, standards, and policies. Game developers and
publishers can use this text to further their designs, to help refine
their choices and practices, and to better think through the
implications of their decisions. Journalists, cultural critics, and
reviewers can use this publication to consider alternate ways to view
games and the nature of their controversies. Finally, this text will
attract members of diverse academic, development, and consumer
communities to interact, share and discuss findings, frameworks and
theories.

Recommended topics include, but are not limited to, the following:

?       Definition of the field of ethics and games
?       Historical and contemporary context of ethics and games
?       Limits and constraints in assessing ethics
?       Criteria for studying ethics and games
?       Case studies (from researchers, educators and practitioners)
?       Ethics and new media literacy
?       Teaching ethics skills
?       Educational opportunities and limits for teaching values through play
?       Schools and the ethics of gaming
?       Ethics and standards in game development
?       Ethics in the promotion of games
?       Communities of play and ethics
?       Cheating and games
?       Issues of race, sex, violence, and gender in games
?       Ethics and the games business
?       Future implications and the ethical citizen

Submission Procedure
Researchers and practitioners are invited to submit on or before
January 15, 2009, a 2-3 page chapter proposal clearly explaining the
mission and concerns of his or her proposed chapter. Authors of
accepted proposals will be notified by February 1, 2009 about the
status of their proposals and sent chapter guidelines. Full chapters
are expected to be submitted by April 1, 2009. All submitted chapters
will be reviewed on a double-blind review basis. This book is
scheduled to be published by IGI Global (formerly Idea Group Inc.),
publisher of the "Information Science Reference" (formerly Idea Group
Reference) and "Medical Information Science Reference" imprints. For
additional information regarding the publisher, please visit
www.igi-global.com.

Inquiries and submissions can be forwarded electronically (Word document) to:
Karen Schrier
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From katelyn.friedson at flycell.com  Tue Jan 20 14:17:06 2009
From: katelyn.friedson at flycell.com (Katelyn Friedson)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:17:06 +0100
Subject: [casual_games] DRM GameShield vs Digital River
Message-ID: <0BB3B653C564064E862739201885396F0488FB56@office01.office.itrm.acotel.com>

Anyone know which DRM solution has the most flexibility and best
protection?

Yummy Interactive's GameShield seems pricier, and I wanted to know if it
was a better solution.

 

Any insight would help.

 

 

Katelyn Friedson 

FLYCELL inc.

Email:  <mailto:katelyn.friedson at flycell.com>
katelyn.friedson at flycell.com

 

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From katelyn.friedson at flycell.com  Tue Jan 20 18:41:03 2009
From: katelyn.friedson at flycell.com (Katelyn Friedson)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:41:03 +0100
Subject: [casual_games] DRM testing- unwrapped game?
Message-ID: <0BB3B653C564064E862739201885396F0488FC46@office01.office.itrm.acotel.com>

Anyone know where I can find an unwrapped game in order to test a DRM
solution?  I'm not a developer, so unfortunately, I don't have one of my
own.

 

 

Many thanks,

 

Katelyn

 

http://www.linkedin.com/in/katelynfriedson
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/katelynfriedson>  

 

Katelyn Friedson 

FLYCELL inc.

Product Manager- Mobile Services

120 Broadway, 15th Floor New York, NY 10271

Phone: +1 (212) 400.1212 ext 478 | Fax: +1 (212) 714.0738

Mobile: +1 (339) 223.0596

Email: katelyn.friedson at flycell.com
<mailto:katelyn.friedson at flycell.com> 

 

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From aaron at tandemgames.com  Tue Jan 20 18:52:41 2009
From: aaron at tandemgames.com (Aaron Murray)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:52:41 -0600
Subject: [casual_games] DRM testing- unwrapped game?
In-Reply-To: <0BB3B653C564064E862739201885396F0488FC46@office01.office.itrm.acotel.com>
References: <0BB3B653C564064E862739201885396F0488FC46@office01.office.itrm.acotel.com>
Message-ID: <3129a3da0901201552r6243caf3x22f13ab22391e45d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Katelyn,
You can try this on my freeware game if you'd like. There is no DRM. This is
for windows - if you need a Mac build, let me know.
http://www.vmcgamelabs.com/pixelandvega/CrunchTimeSetup.zip

-Aaron


Aaron Murray
Technical Director, Founder
Tandem Games
www.TandemGames.com
www.DomainOfHeroes.com
"Fun for All. All for Fun."


On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Katelyn Friedson <
katelyn.friedson at flycell.com> wrote:

>  Anyone know where I can find an *unwrapped *game in order to test a DRM
> solution?  I'm not a developer, so unfortunately, I don't have one of my
> own.
>
>
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Katelyn
>
>
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/katelynfriedson
>
>
>
> *Katelyn Friedson *
>
> *FLYCELL inc.***
>
> Product Manager- Mobile Services
>
> 120 Broadway, 15th Floor New York, NY 10271
>
> *Phone*: +1 (212) 400.1212 ext 478 *|* *Fax*: +1 (212) 714.0738
>
> *Mobile*: +1 (339) 223.0596
>
> Email: katelyn.friedson at flycell.com
>
>
>
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From james at popcap.com  Tue Jan 20 20:06:47 2009
From: james at popcap.com (James Gwertzman)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:06:47 -0800
Subject: [casual_games] DRM GameShield vs Digital River
In-Reply-To: <0BB3B653C564064E862739201885396F0488FB56@office01.office.itrm.acotel.com>
References: <0BB3B653C564064E862739201885396F0488FB56@office01.office.itrm.acotel.com>
Message-ID: <A5575DED1CD9A7458B10A76F3ECC341C04199DD6@gigan.internal.popcap.com>

We used Yummy here in Shanghai to build a DRM wrapper for PopCap?s games distributed via partners in Asia, and we were quite happy with it. It was incredibly flexible ? we built a completely custom UI experience (based on our own home-grown DRM that we use in the US), leveraging the Yummy technology ?under the hood? to securely wrap all the files and protect against unauthorized use. We have found Yummy to be very secure, and we have been able to leverage their web-based interface to their authentication server to build a custom ?portal? for our partners that they can use to request new serial numbers to sell and that we can use to monitor sales in real-time.

 

We also found Yummy to be very helpful during development, answering our questions promptly. 

 

-----------------------------------------

James Gwertzman

Vice President, Asia/Pacific

PopCap Games, Inc.

direct (US): +1-206-256-4210

mobile (China): +86 -13641892319

 

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Katelyn Friedson
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:17 AM
To: Casual_Games at igda.org
Subject: [casual_games] DRM GameShield vs Digital River

 

Anyone know which DRM solution has the most flexibility and best protection?

Yummy Interactive?s GameShield seems pricier, and I wanted to know if it was a better solution.

 

Any insight would help.

 

 

Katelyn Friedson 

FLYCELL inc.

Email: katelyn.friedson at flycell.com <mailto:katelyn.friedson at flycell.com> 

 



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From dbahlman at xblitz.com  Wed Jan 21 23:10:53 2009
From: dbahlman at xblitz.com (Donald)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:10:53 -0600
Subject: [casual_games] DRM GameShield vs Digital River
In-Reply-To: <A5575DED1CD9A7458B10A76F3ECC341C04199DD6@gigan.internal.popcap.com>
References: <0BB3B653C564064E862739201885396F0488FB56@office01.office.itrm.acotel.com>
	<A5575DED1CD9A7458B10A76F3ECC341C04199DD6@gigan.internal.popcap.com>
Message-ID: <49C5F4902E6A4CF79909D3FF85B67738@xBlitzGames>

Just curious,

How does Yummy compare to SoftwarePassport (Armadillo)?  In regards to interface and usability?

We wanted to go with Yummy, but at the time they were in beta and we had to go with Armadillo.  Don't get me wrong, Armadillo is a good product...I'm just wondering how they compare.

Thanks! ;)

Don
xBlitz Entertainment
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Gwertzman 
  To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [casual_games] DRM GameShield vs Digital River


  We used Yummy here in Shanghai to build a DRM wrapper for PopCap?s games distributed via partners in Asia, and we were quite happy with it. It was incredibly flexible ? we built a completely custom UI experience (based on our own home-grown DRM that we use in the US), leveraging the Yummy technology ?under the hood? to securely wrap all the files and protect against unauthorized use. We have found Yummy to be very secure, and we have been able to leverage their web-based interface to their authentication server to build a custom ?portal? for our partners that they can use to request new serial numbers to sell and that we can use to monitor sales in real-time.

   

  We also found Yummy to be very helpful during development, answering our questions promptly. 

   

  -----------------------------------------

  James Gwertzman

  Vice President, Asia/Pacific

  PopCap Games, Inc.

  direct (US): +1-206-256-4210

  mobile (China): +86 -13641892319

   

  From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Katelyn Friedson
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:17 AM
  To: Casual_Games at igda.org
  Subject: [casual_games] DRM GameShield vs Digital River

   

  Anyone know which DRM solution has the most flexibility and best protection?

  Yummy Interactive?s GameShield seems pricier, and I wanted to know if it was a better solution.

   

  Any insight would help.

   

   

  Katelyn Friedson 

  FLYCELL inc.

  Email: katelyn.friedson at flycell.com

   



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From paul_steven at btinternet.com  Mon Jan 26 12:25:36 2009
From: paul_steven at btinternet.com (Paul Steven)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:25:36 -0000
Subject: [casual_games] Anyone need any assistance with any game development?
In-Reply-To: <200901151647.n0FGlg807802@dev-biz.com>
References: <952662.34667.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200901151647.n0FGlg807802@dev-biz.com>
Message-ID: <001501c97fdb$1a0ced70$4e26c850$@com>

Guess the global economic downturn is finally taking its toll as work has
completely dried up for me at the moment. Before I hand myself over to the
mercy of agencies, I thought it may be worth posting here to see if anyone
needs any help with any current or future Flash game development projects.
You can see some examples of my work here http://www.mediakitchen.co.uk -
all games on this site have been programmed 100% by me. Drop me an email if
you would like to discuss any projects. I am based in the UK in Somerset.

 

 

 

 

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From miltmich at telus.net  Mon Jan 26 14:57:07 2009
From: miltmich at telus.net (Milt Michael)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:57:07 -0800
Subject: [casual_games] Anyone need any assistance with any game
	development?
In-Reply-To: <001501c97fdb$1a0ced70$4e26c850$@com>
References: <952662.34667.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com><200901151647.n0FGlg807802@dev-biz.com>
	<001501c97fdb$1a0ced70$4e26c850$@com>
Message-ID: <A94A5A2B9AEF441FB2A9139DE432799C@MAIN>

I'm interested. I have developed a board game called "Rock & Roll, the board
game".

 

The game plays at a very fast pace and requires many decisions. It contains
no guns, war, or violence of any kind yet is extremely competitive!

 

I believe it has serious potential as a computer game. My plan is to have it
developed so it can be played live on-line using Socket Server technology
and make money on advergaming.

 

The game (software system) must be capable of instantly computing player
earnings and tracking assets etc.

 

I would be interested to hear how you might be able to assist. Here's the
link that contains description etc.

 

http://www.rockandrolltheboardgame.com/

 

Look forward to hearing from you,

 

Milt Michael

 

 

  _____  

From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Paul Steven
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:26 AM
To: 'IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List'
Subject: [casual_games] Anyone need any assistance with any game
development?

 

Guess the global economic downturn is finally taking its toll as work has
completely dried up for me at the moment. Before I hand myself over to the
mercy of agencies, I thought it may be worth posting here to see if anyone
needs any help with any current or future Flash game development projects.
You can see some examples of my work here http://www.mediakitchen.co.uk -
all games on this site have been programmed 100% by me. Drop me an email if
you would like to discuss any projects. I am based in the UK in Somerset.

 

 

 

 

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