[games_access] YouTUBE

Tue Aug 15 03:30:52 EDT 2006

GDC newsYouTube is not as accessible as the Game-Accessibility.com videos regarding subtitles. The sound and picture quality is not as good.

However, it is more accessible as regards speed to view, and ease to spread around the web - two really compelling attributes. Perhaps if you were to mention that subtitled versions can be found at www.gameaccessibility.com on all uploaded descriptions might be a good compromise.

Will we end up paying for YouTube? - Well we've not been paying for blogger, nor most basic google services for a long time now. I think it's so massively successful that it will continue in the vein that it is in. I could be wrong though - but in the meanwhile, it's a great tool to reach people with.

Barrie
www.OneSwitch.org.uk

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: AudioGames.net 
  To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:30 AM
  Subject: Re: to Barrie RE: [games_access] GDC news

  Hi,

  I personally don't have a problem with that (having posted all the Nintendo audio game footage on YouTube for AudioGames.net as well: http://www.audiogames.net/db.php?action=view&id=SoundVoyager .

  Sander and I have already made backup copies of every media on the website just in case stuff disappears, so we can always put it back online on GA.com. But... 

  - copyright IS involved so then I'd still like to ask permission - which might take some work. 
  - how reliable is YouTube by the way? won't we have to pay in the future? etc.
  - (and most importantly) how accessible is YouTube? Although we link to much inaccessible external media on G-A.com, we do have our own video captioned/subtitled in such a way that the captions are also accessible for screenreaders. These captions can't be transfered to YouTube at the moment.

  Still, I have been considering this too for the past week, ever since I created an account for the Nintendo movies...

  Greets,

  Richard

  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Barrie Ellis 
    To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:36 AM
    Subject: Re: to Barrie RE: [games_access] GDC news

    Hello Richard,

    Where does Game-Accessibility.com stand on posting all the video clips to YouTube? If it's permissable, I think it will help our cause, as the vids will load almost instantly, and are easy to spread around the net.

    Barrie
    www.OneSwitch.org.uk

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: AudioGames.net 
      To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 
      Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:49 PM
      Subject: Re: to Barrie RE: [games_access] GDC news

      Hi,

      We're all pretty busy so no worries ;) 
      I am thinking about adding some sort of blog-functionality to the site, so that all moderators can post news items on the website itsself. We have this functionality on AudioGames.net but that's quite an extensive website with a php backoffice, whereas G-A.com is a simple html website.

      Will discuss it tomorrow with Sander.

      Greets,

      Richard
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Robert Florio 
        To: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List' 
        Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:40 PM
        Subject: to Barrie RE: [games_access] GDC news

        You're right Barrie about that game-accessibility.com being a great place for us.  Likewise sorry I have not been part of the moderator, like I was, for the game accessibility I have been so busy but I stopped when I can.

        Robert

        AI online SGA President

        arthit73 at cablespeed.com 

        www.RobertFlorio.com 

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        From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Barrie Ellis
        Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:34 PM
        To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
        Subject: Re: [games_access] GDC news

        Don't worry too much... Just need to find new routes of attack. I think it will help when we get to the stage of a centralised information source that people can easily understand, from the shallowest to the deepest sources of information.

        Game-Accessibility.com is a huge step in the right direction, in linking us all up together. We need to keep building together.

        Hopefully we'll all learn something too from the Donation Coder and Retro Remakes results.

        Keep your chins up all.

        Barrie

        www.OneSwitch.org.uk

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Robert Florio 

          To: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List' 

          Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:13 PM

          Subject: RE: [games_access] GDC news

          Anyways I really want to still be a part of the idol session.  Anything I can be part of obviously that will help me get there.

          Thanks for the update Michelle and thank you so much for the hard work to do really have to fly to the GDC people and testimony to them is that right?

          Maybe we will still get a roundtable we really need all the visibility and this is so ignorant to me what the game industries doing to people with limitations it's so frustrating and ticking me off and fueling me to do even more with the lack of money I have.  That should get a big laugh.

          I swear someday I'm going to have oil company I feel like that's the only way is for a big company or small company with good funding to finally make an impact on the world for universal accessibility.  It will happen.  I'm looking forward to the response I get from the writer of Seattle link paper about Microsoft XNA game treating tool.  More visibility hopefully through an article.  Thanks.

          Robert

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          From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of d. michelle hinn
          Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:04 PM
          To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
          Subject: [games_access] GDC news

          Well...after dealing with a ton of fun at airports the last few days, I just got back to find out that the GDC people are not going to allocate space for a game accessibility tutorial this year due to the low turnout (especially by the end of the day when it REALLY counted because people had to fill out forms about it). Also we had so many different people coming in and out throughout the day that they didn't get counted either. I'm trying to appeal this but we'll see.

          So this might be the end of that idea I had that the accessibility idol session would result in an increased buzz about accessibility and thus increase our numbers for the tutorial. The good news is that the accessibility idol session is a "go," as well as a group gathering (the session where we were gathered around the IGDA booth). I'm trying to find out about the status of the roundtables.

          What does this mean for us? Well, this will really, really cut back on the amount of people we can bring from the SIG to GDC because we won't have a one-day session since there will be no "breakdown by disability type" sub-sessions within the tutorial day. It may also mean that only the accessibility idol session will result in speaker's passes and that's a 60-90 minute session (not sure yet) so it won't justify the larger amount of passes that the tutorial did.

          So...sigh...this was not the best news that I wanted to return to -- I should have guessed -- my Monday started with a rental car drive from Detroit to Champaign in the middle of the night thanks to airport messes. No airport has the same rules right now and I don't even want to go into why I wasn't allowed to board a plane...that UK trip looked "weird" to the Detroit airport team...

          Ok, so we're waiting on an appeal but the space at the Moscone center in San Fran is not very friendly for GDC so I'm thinking that we're not going to get the tutorial but you never know!?!

          Michelle (who is trying to catch up on the latest list stuff because I've been without internet connection since Thursday)

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