[games_access] One switch/one button

Fri Dec 11 12:19:36 EST 2009

Hi,

no.
Joystick is analog?

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-
> bounces at igda.org] Im Auftrag von John Morgan
> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2009 18:35
> An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
> Betreff: Re: [games_access] One switch/one button
> 
> Are you thinking about joystick
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:37:59
> To: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'<games_access at igda.org>
> Subject: Re: [games_access] One switch/one button
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was just wondering if there is a technical difference.
> 
> E.g.
> Switch only on/off
> Button on off and on on on off , ....
> 
> One Button is maybe the best term for developer.
> Also it looks like they had to add some information.
> That is has to be a button, not this button that can be moved in
> circle.
> Sorry I do not know the name.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sandra
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-
> > bounces at igda.org] Im Auftrag von D. Michelle Hinn
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2009 06:30
> > An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
> > Betreff: Re: [games_access] One switch/one button
> >
> > I think that the main issue is whether the Gamma 4 team will change
> > the name -- and from what I am seeing, it doesn't seem to be the
> case.
> > And that's ok. So in Barrie's guide and how we refer to it, we need
> to
> > put a little historical context in it as to why it is "switch"
> without
> > confusing (some already confused and/or scheming for a way to use
> > another input than simply one "click") Gamma 4 participants. But
> > calling it one button/switch may overload the Gamma 4 (and there are
> > only 4 of them!) team because they will be asked what on earth a
> > switch is [see next paragraph].
> >
> > Heather did mention that they just got through explaining that using
> > alternatives to buttons (ie, space bar versus mouse button versus the
> > return key) does not mean that you can map THREE DIFFERENT items to
> > those -- they have to do the SAME function. So she's asked us to be
> > cautious in how "switch" is introduced so as not to start the same
> > week-long answering of "but how can we cheat using this additional
> > peripheral" kinds of questions. ;)
> >
> > So that's the main deal. Most of the Gamma 4 participants are not
> > going to be participating with accessibility in mind -- so Barrie,
> > being our resident expert on all things one switch/button is working
> > hard on making sure that participants know how much MORE this
> challenge can be!
> > :)
> >
> > I think more people "get" one button than switch in the US and/or
> > those outside the accessibility realm...but that's just my guess.
> > Switch, to me, is a term that is very much tied to accessibility. But
> > I may be wrong...I have been before. hehe.
> >
> > Michelle
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Nissa Ludwig wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >   So, I am going to jump in here...
> >
> >   Would using "one button or switch"  or "one button/switch " clear
> > this one us so that everyone would be able to take the device they
> are
> > dealing with and make it fit in to the wording?  I realize that I may
> > be over simplifying (or, - without intent  - making things even more
> > complicated) with this response.  I just think that if we include
> both
> > perhaps we get around the entire issue of not understanding one word
> > or the other. I do realize that I am asking us to type a few more
> > characters but it also seems to me that if we avoid confusion in
> doing
> > so, it might be worth that effort.
> >
> >   Just my random thought,
> >
> >   Nissa
> >
> >   On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, D. Michelle Hinn <hinn at uiuc.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >       Spam filter again -- Barrie's response!
> >
> >       Again, given Gamma 4's mission, one button with the one switch
> > guidelines may be the most easy and less confusing language to use.
> > Many do not understand what a "switch" is and we definitely don't
> want
> > to make things more difficult! :) That doesn't mean we can't use the
> > experience to let others know how to find out about the history and
> > what "one switch" means to the disabled but I think "one button" is
> > the way to start that conversation rather than scare away people with
> > language.
> >
> >       Just my thoughts. :)
> >
> >       Michelle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           From: Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at googlemail.com>
> >           Date: December 9, 2009 9:17:33 AM CST
> >           To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List"
> > <games_access at igda.org>
> >           Subject: Re: [games_access] one button -  one switch game ?
> >           Reply-To: "Barrie Ellis"
> > <barrie.ellis at oneswitch.org.uk>
> >
> >
> >           I personally use one-switch because of the tie up with
> > accessibility switches, of which there are many more types than just
> a
> > push-button. From the field of educational accessibility software,
> > one-switch / two-switch accessibility is a standard term that has
> been
> > used long-before I knew anything about it. That's why I like to use
> it
> > in reference to one-button games.
> >
> >           Barrie
> >
> >           --------------------------------------------------
> >           From: "Thomas Westin" <thomas at pininteractive.com>
> >           Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:54 PM
> >           To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List"
> > <games_access at igda.org>
> >           Subject: Re: [games_access] one button -  one switch game ?
> >
> >
> >               I don't think so, I prefer one button since
> the
> > word is a bit easier to understand than switch
> >               /Thomas
> >
> >
> >               On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Sandra Uhling
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >                   Hi,
> >
> >                   is there a difference between "one button" and "one
> > switch" game?
> >
> >                   Best regards,
> >                   Sandra
> >
> >
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