[games_access] idea GamesCom 2010: a IGDA GA-SIG stand

[D. Michelle Hinn]

Thanks, Sandra!

I will contact the person in charge.

As to hidden costs...those are the ones you learn about once it's too  
late to back out! ;) That's what's happened to me in the past. In the  
US each state has different labor union requirements.

Anyway, I'll do a little digging -- do you know off-hand what the  
dates are for that?

Michelle

On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> sorry I do answer little bit late.
>
> There should be no hidden cost.
> I think there should be no problem at all.
>
> @Michelle I will send you two contact data:
> * the person who organize it
> * a person who had a stand there this year (gameparents e.V.)
>
> Best regards,
> Sandra
>
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-
>> bounces at igda.org] Im Auftrag von D. Michelle Hinn
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 21:40
>> An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>> Betreff: Re: [games_access] idea GamesCom 2010: a IGDA GA-SIG stand
>>
>> Hi Sandra,
>>
>> That sounds interesting -- what are the costs associated with it?
>> I've done this before at other gaming conferences and have lost
>> literally thousand of dollars due to hidden costs (such as the
>> carpeting for the booth having to be paid to one company, the table
>> going to another company, and so forth). So we'd definitely need to
>> find out about that -- the last time I did this was sort of the last
>> straw for me, as I lost over $5000 personally because the SIG has no
>> funds and I was forced to cover it AT the conference. Also, we would
>> need to partner with many groups, as the SIG itself "owns" no
>> accessibility equipment, which is very important to show. And those
>> companies that make them (as well as most companies that make  
>> games in
>> this area) are not non-profits.
>>
>> The SIG is a non-profit of sorts if we go through the IGDA Foundation
>> but I'm not sure that that "counts" in the EU -- I'd have to
>> investigate this. That is why we could not participate in Thomas
>> Westin's EU proposal -- we could not make that case quickly enough
>> since there were only days before the deadline. We also, as an
>> organization, are here to support game developers WITH  
>> disabilities so
>> that also is a source of great confusion when it comes to our non-
>> profit status.
>>
>> The trouble is that "non-profit" is a legal term and I'm not sure  
>> what
>> proof that they would need to count us as such. AbleGamers, for
>> instance, is a legal non-profit in the US but is not yet a non-profit
>> outside the US. So anything you can find out would be very helpful!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Michelle
>> Chair, IGDA Game Accessibility SIG
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> just an idea:
>>> We have a very nice "non-profit" area at the GamesCom.
>>> What do you think about it, that this SIG will have a stand there?
>>> It would be a small place and there are lots of other non-profit
>>> organizations.
>>>
>>> I do have contact to the person who organize it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sandra
>>>
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