[games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 81, Issue 31
BlazeEagle
blazeeagle at suddenlink.net
Mon Dec 13 07:23:44 EST 2010
"differently abled" is dorky & too "politically correct" sounding. sheesh!
lol
Aaron
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> 1. Re: Terminology (Steve Spohn)
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> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 14:01:45 -0500
> From: "Steve Spohn" <steve at ablegamers.com>
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
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> No lol
>
> Steve Spohn
> Associate Editor
> The AbleGamers Foundation
>
> www.ablegamers.com
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> Find me on Skype! Username: Steve_Spohn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
> On Behalf Of Sandra Uhling
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 6:05 AM
> To: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
>
> Hi,
> Maybe that is the new point of view:
> "It is about ability" :-)
>
> UNICEF has a series of books about it.
> It is for kids and for education.
>
> Best regards,
> Sandra
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
> Im Auftrag von Ryan Arndt
> Gesendet: Montag, 6. Dezember 2010 18:19
> An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
> Betreff: Re: [games_access] Terminology
>
> curious how people view the term "differently abled" as when I did my
> degree (BEd), this was the term of choice. What do you think?
>
> Ryan Arndt
> IGDA Global Community Manager
>
> On 2010-12-04, at 7:59 PM, Michelle Hinn wrote:
>
>
> I guess because of my age, I went through the 1970
> "handicapped/handicappible" argument where some with disabilities felt
> that handicappable was a preferable term. So whenever I hear handicapped,
> I think back to those years (it was something on 70s children/teen TV,
> etc). After that seemed to be the search for a new term -- whether that
> was something that was pushed by the disabled community or those without
> disabilities? I do not know. I've just met many, unlike yourself, who have
> an issue with the term. So perhaps it's an age thing?
>
> Perhaps my own reference to being a "person with a disability" (rather
> than "disabled person" comes from both my academic background as well as
> the fact that one of my disabilities is medical (and later made medically
> worse and causing physical limitations) when being treated for the
> "cure"). That's a very good possibility!
>
> I agree, though, disability doesn't stop and in the end whatever term
> anyone wants to use about themselves, is ok.
>
> I think, however, when it comes to cognitive disorders, cognitive or
> learning "handicaps" is problematic. Mainly because terms like "disorder,"
> "disabilities," "limitation," etc seems to sound better than "handicap."
> And, yes, I have a learning disability. :)
>
> Michelle
>
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Steve Spohn wrote:
>
>
>
> I?ve found very few who dislike handicapped (U.S. thing maybe) ? even golf
> uses handicap as in ?a disadvantage.? Mark prefers to say ?gamer with
> disability? due to people complaining but used to say disabled gamer. I
> still say disabled gamer but that?s because I avoid medical/academic
> sounding phrases at all costs.
>
> No fight from my end, I?m just stating ?person first? is GREAT in a
> hospital. I hated when Drs referred to me as ?kidney in bed 8? but in
> real life I think the disability is imposed on the person. Therefore,
> saying person with disability is attaching it to who I am. Barrie hates
> handicap as do most UK?ers, so we try to avoid it. However, you, Mark,
> Aaron, and I are handicapped (and in the U.S.) so the word doesn?t have
> negative connotations. So, all I can add is:
>
> 1. Being disabled never stops
> a. There is no break but you can conquer barriers
> 2. Don?t say cripple or gimp
> a. Notice broadened horizons is ?GimpGear.us? but promotes BH
> 3. Handicapped is iffy
> a. Never met someone in the U.S. who is disabled who minds handicap
> b. U.K. people dislike it
> 4. Those who are disabled are more hardened against words
> 5. Person first is personal preference but it is more often used by
> academics and medical people
>
> Steve Spohn
> Associate Editor
> The AbleGamers Foundation
>
> www.ablegamers.com <x-msg://60/www.ablegamers.com>
> www.ablegamers.org <x-msg://60/www.Ablegamers.org>
>
> Find me on Skype! Username: Steve_Spohn
>
> From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
> On Behalf Of Michelle Hinn
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:55 PM
> To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
>
> Mark, though, refers to himself as a someone with a disability -- perhaps
> he means to say that something about gaming makes him "disabled" but
> outside of that activity he is not disabled?
>
> Not trying to start a list fight -- just trying to understand where
> disability starts and stops for you personally. Do you feel that
> "handicapped" is interchangeable with disability as well? The discussion
> had started with "handicapped" as a potentially offensive term so I was
> just looking for your opinion as to whether you found to it worthwhile to
> differentiate the two or if you found the two terms to be interchangeable.
>
> Not sure I agree that by saying "person with a disability" is akin to
> saying that disability is an accessory -- it's just a preference as to how
> the individual wants to be referred to by others as.
>
> Michelle
>
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Steve Spohn wrote:
>
>
> It?s like anything, someone will always be upset. It would, however, be
> doable to create an agreed-upon what NOT to say list.
>
> As an aside, there is a trend in the disabled community which is similar
> to most communities; those who ARE handicapped/disabled are much much less
> sensitive to the term used than those who are not. The ?inclusive?
> mindset is very prevalent in every country now-a-days, i.e. ?I can say I?m
> ABC but you can?t because I actually am an X? ? where X is a
> race/gender/disability/nationality .
>
> Even if you read back through this list?s ?in-fights? those who aren?t
> disabled get much more defensive than those who are.
>
> Personal preferences aside, I think as long as you don?t use words you
> KNOW will hurt someone, you?re PC enough. AG gets scolded from time to
> time over the ?person first? aspect. Mark, our CEO, is trying to say
> gamer with disabilities, while I continue to say disabled gamer. Why?
> Because I?m disabled. I?m not ?defining? myself, I?m being factual. I
> will always be disabled, ergo, I?m a disabled <insert verb>. So, for
> once, I am very much on Barrie?s side: life made me disabled, it?s not an
> accessory like a hat. Take away what stops me from a given activity and
> I?m not disabled ? well other than that whole wheelchair & ventilator
> thing.
>
> Steve Spohn
> Associate Editor
> The AbleGamers Foundation
>
> www.ablegamers.com <x-msg://60/www.ablegamers.com>
> www.ablegamers.org <x-msg://60/www.Ablegamers.org>
>
> Find me on Skype! Username: Steve_Spohn
>
> From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
> On Behalf Of Michelle Hinn
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 7:05 PM
> To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
>
> A K-12 student is a student who is pre-university and/or still in
> government required schooling.
>
> The "K" is for Kindergarten, from the German word "Children's Garden." :)
> It's an early childhood education term for a "pre-school" like setting.
> The term is used mostly in North America.
>
> As far as a black/white list goes, I'm not sure it's possible to come up
> with a list that is, well, black/white. I think we could come closer to
> creating a list of terms that are regionally considered offensive than we
> could come up with a regional list that is "ok." However, as we've seen
> from the discussion, it is often up to the individual as to what they
> themselves use to describe themselves (ie, "handicapped" versus
> "disabled") and how they choose to describe themselves (ie, as "disabled"
> or as a "person with a disability").
>
> There are no easy solutions. The same can be said for other issues such as
> terms, particularly slang terms, for race, sexuality, gender, etc.
>
> Michelle
>
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> so when we would make a black and white list, we should make separate ones
> for different regions?
>
> What is a K-12 student?
>
> Best regards,
> Sandra
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> Von: "Michelle Hinn" <hinn at uiuc.edu>
> Gesendet: 05.12.2010 00:11:46
> An: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List" <games_access at igda.org>
> Betreff: Re: [games_access] Terminology
>
> True, Lynsey -- Handicapped as "Cap in Hand" is more of a UK concern
> (correct, Barrie?) than it is a US concern.
> I'm not sure I understand how Hasbro got away with a Transformer game
> called "spastic" even in the US -- that's a term used as an insult by many
> a K-12 student (and above sometimes!). Perhaps it's losing it's luster as
> an insult!?!
> Michelle
>
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Lynsey Graham wrote:
>
>
> I think one of the things that makes it more awkward is that the way words
> are percieved varies so much from region to region, even in the same
> language - never mind when you start translating to many languages. For
> example, while still unpleasant, 'spastic' and 'spazz' doesn't seem to be
> regarded as offensive in the US as it is in the UK - I've heard it used in
> a lot of US shows, including children's shows (hello Bratz). I know
> Nintendo managed to get two games pulled from the shelves in the UK that
> featured the word (including Mario Party 8), and Hasbro recently launched
> a Transformer called Spastic (which won't be released in the UK).
> Obviously that's a slightly more exteme example, but we really don't want
> to unintentionally offend anyone.
>
> It's quite a challenge when you're working on a product that will be
> released across many regions!
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Steve Spohn [mailto:steve at ablegamers.com]
> To: 'BlazeEagle' [mailto:blazeeagle at suddenlink.net], 'IGDA Games
> Accessibility SIG Mailing List' [mailto:games_access at igda.org]
> Sent: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:43:09 +0000
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
>
> Exactly, Aaron. According to those who have scolded AG it should be "X
> challenged" "persons with disabilities" and "persons with limitations" - I
> say Disabled gamer a lot as it's what I am. Barrie is correct in the
> "people first" is awkward and attaches negativity. Everyone has a
> sensitivity to certain words but most of the disabled individuals I've met
> despise "cripple" and some hate "gimp."
>
> I've never had someone object to disabled and only a few on handicapped.
>
> Steve Spohn
> Associate Editor
> The AbleGamers Foundation
>
> www.ablegamers.com <http://www.ablegamers.com/>
> www.ablegamers.org <http://www.ablegamers.org/>
>
> Find me on Skype! Username: Steve_Spohn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
> On Behalf Of BlazeEagle
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:55 PM
> To: games_access at igda.org
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
>
> I personally don't find it that offensive but each person has their own
> preference. For physical disability, is "physically challenged" more
> "P.C."?
>
> For visual disabilities, How about "visually challenged" for visual
> disabilities?
>
> It really just boils down to semantics & how sensitive one is.
>
> Aaron
>
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> > 1. Terminology (Lynsey Graham)
> > 2. Re: Terminology (Sandra Uhling)
> > 3. Re: Terminology (Lynsey Graham)
> > 4. Re: Terminology (Barrie Ellis)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:25:14 -0000
> > From: "Lynsey Graham" <lgraham at blitzgamesstudios.com>
> > Subject: [games_access] Terminology
> > To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
> > <games_access at igda.org>
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> > <7388601b-854b-41ec-8428-9794278692e2 at blitzgamesstudios.com>
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> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I was wondering if I could ask for advice. I've just moved onto a
> > project, and noticed that one of the lines of dialogue refers to
> > 'handicapped people'. From what I've gathered, quite a few people find
> > this term offensive - is this generally the case? We're trying to decide
> > whether to cut the line, or whether to keep it (as some people on the
> > team
>
> > have never heard that it's offensive).
> >
> > Any feedback would be much appreciated!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Lynsey
> >
> > Lynsey Graham
> > Designer | Blitz Games
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
> > Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
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> > Hi Lynsey,
> >
> > I think this video will help you.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVqz0LKphws&feature=player_embedded
> >
> > Maybe you can describe the situation and what kind of disability the
> > referred people have?
> >
> > A good description in general is: Persons with Disabilities, short PwDs.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Sandra
> >
> >
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org
> > [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
> > Im
> > Auftrag von Lynsey Graham
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Dezember 2010 17:25
> > An: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'
> > Betreff: [games_access] Terminology
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> > I was wondering if I could ask for advice. I?ve just moved onto a
> > project,
> > and noticed that one of the lines of dialogue refers to ?handicapped
> > people?. From what I?ve gathered, quite a few people find this term
> > offensive ? is this generally the case? We?re trying to decide whether
> > to
> > cut the line, or whether to keep it (as some people on the team have
> > never
> > heard that it?s offensive).
> >
> >
> >
> > Any feedback would be much appreciated!
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Lynsey
> >
> >
> >
> > Lynsey Graham
> >
> > Designer | Blitz Games
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 17:06:52 -0000
> > From: "Lynsey Graham" <lgraham at blitzgamesstudios.com>
> > Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
> > To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
> > <games_access at igda.org>
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> >
> > The line in question is:
> >
> > "Dogs are kept as pets but many also work for a living. They help out in
> > all sorts of ways from pulling sleds, herding, helping the handicapped,
> > guarding and hunting"
> >
> > It just strikes me as possibly being a bit awkwardly worded with the
> > potential to offend. Strangely, the German translation seems to just
> > refer to "f?hren Blinde", which I'm assuming is just referring to
> > blindness?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: games_access-bounces at igda.org
> > [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
>
> > On Behalf Of Sandra Uhling
> > Sent: 03 December 2010 16:44
> > To: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
> >
> > Hi Lynsey,
> >
> > I think this video will help you.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVqz0LKphws&feature=player_embedded
> >
> > Maybe you can describe the situation and what kind of disability the
> > referred people have?
> >
> > A good description in general is: Persons with Disabilities, short PwDs.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Sandra
> >
> >
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org
> > [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
> > Im
> > Auftrag von Lynsey Graham
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Dezember 2010 17:25
> > An: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'
> > Betreff: [games_access] Terminology
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> > I was wondering if I could ask for advice. I've just moved onto a
> > project,
> > and noticed that one of the lines of dialogue refers to 'handicapped
> > people'. From what I've gathered, quite a few people find this term
> > offensive - is this generally the case? We're trying to decide whether
> > to
> > cut the line, or whether to keep it (as some people on the team have
> > never
> > heard that it's offensive).
> >
> >
> >
> > Any feedback would be much appreciated!
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Lynsey
> >
> >
> >
> > Lynsey Graham
> >
> > Designer | Blitz Games
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > --
> >
> > IMPORTANT INFORMATION
> >
> > Information and any attached documentation from Blitz Games Studios
> > Limited
> > (including its divisions: Blitz Games, Volatile Games, Blitz Arcade,
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> > & BlitzTech) is intended for the use of the addressee only and may
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> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 17:11:45 -0000
> > From: "Barrie Ellis" <oneswitch at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
> > To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List"
> > <games_access at igda.org>
> > Message-ID: <C7AC2B07E36F4F659136228847280420 at OneSwitchPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > I much prefer the term Disabled Person/People, in the context that a
> > person
> > is disabled by something in their environment that poses a barrier to
> > them.
> > If a person can't get into a shop because they need to use a wheelchair,
> > then you might consider them a disabled person. If there's a ramp in
> > place,
> > that they can use, then they are no longer disabled in that particular
> > context. The same with video games.
> >
> > Saying "Person with disability", attaches the disability to them, and
> > always
> > feels like a more medical way of describing someone to me. You'll hear
> > people use the "people first" argument, but I prefer to describe people
> > as
> > people first. Then if there's something disabling them from doing what
> > they
> > need/want to do, I would describe the person as a disabled person.
> >
> > Barrie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:44 PM
> > To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
> > <games_access at igda.org>
> > Subject: Re: [games_access] Terminology
> >
> >> Hi Lynsey,
> >>
> >> I think this video will help you.
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVqz0LKphws&feature=player_embedded
> >>
> >> Maybe you can describe the situation and what kind of disability the
> >> referred people have?
> >>
> >> A good description in general is: Persons with Disabilities, short
> >> PwDs.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Sandra
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org
> >> [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
> >> Im
> >> Auftrag von Lynsey Graham
> >> Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Dezember 2010 17:25
> >> An: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'
> >> Betreff: [games_access] Terminology
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >>
> >> I was wondering if I could ask for advice. I've just moved onto a
> >> project,
> >> and noticed that one of the lines of dialogue refers to 'handicapped
> >> people'. From what I've gathered, quite a few people find this term
> >> offensive - is this generally the case? We're trying to decide whether
> >> to
> >> cut the line, or whether to keep it (as some people on the team have
> >> never
> >> heard that it's offensive).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any feedback would be much appreciated!
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >>
> >> Lynsey
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lynsey Graham
> >>
> >> Designer | Blitz Games
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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