[games_access] Judge Tosses Blind Gamer's Suit vs. Sony

thomas at pininteractive.com thomas at pininteractive.com
Sun Feb 28 16:06:16 EST 2010


hi

@mark; sorry to see you leave; this group was started in 2003, before
"Serious games" even existed as part of our vocabulary. Yes things
change over time but I'm impressed what people achieved over the
years. I don't think accessibility (including Ablegamers) would be in
the same position without all the hard work people in the SIG has
contributed with online, at GDC, in research and elsewhere. So please
don't offend people this way.

@chuck: I'm an indie dev too and I also feel this - I haven't bought
My football game, I'm not sure you have bought Terraformers? As I
responded early in this thread, accessibility will be a minor thing
until public education is using it on a large scale

Kind regards,
Thomas

(Sent from my mobile)

On 28 feb 2010, at 21.00, "Robert Florio" <arthit73 at cablespeed.com>
wrote:


> Sorry, I accidentally send my e-mail before finishing what I'm saying.

>

> Hi John. I don't think we ever met before but thanks for mentioning

> me in

> your list of people trying to spread the word. I haven't been

> active on

> this for a while I've just been burned out I guess from graduating,

> not

> getting a job, working my butt off in the art field and hardly

> selling any

> artwork but anyway. Doing all this with my mouth and then with that

> kind of

> a disability but on the upside, I rock 'n roll all day and night.

>

> Who web sites I couldn't find a brief paragraph describing what it

> is....

>

> .... continuing!... I could not find a section of your web site

> that said

> the purpose of your site because I want to add it to my web site

> accessibility link page. I have not added anything to my

> accessibility link

> page in so long. If you have any list of other accessible web sites

> for

> gaming creating games and stuff like that please let me know I can

> put them

> on there.

>

> I'm downloading your book now to play. Is it only audio games for the

> blind? Are you guys in Massachusetts United States?

>

> I'm in Glen burnie Maryland United States. 30 minutes north of

> Washington,

> DC.

>

> This is my page for accessibility. The rest of my web site shows my

> artwork. And I have not been doing any reviews with the quad

> controller

> games in years. Bad, I know. I've just been busy trying to start a

> career

> and trying to find a girlfriend so I guess, actually I stopped

> playing video

> games more than a year ago. Isn't that horrible. Time flies. I

> have it set

> up a just don't play but I would like to. I guess because I paint

> all day

> my mouth takes a lot of abuse and that controller hurts my mouth.

> That's

> why.

>

> http://www.robertflorio.com/Game_Accessibility.html

>

> That's my web site link. Check it out. Give me some improvements

> please I

> can add a lot of information and links.

> Robert

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-

> bounces at igda.org]

> On Behalf Of John Bannick

> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:04 PM

> To: games_access at igda.org

> Subject: [games_access] Judge Tosses Blind Gamer's Suit vs. Sony

>

> Chuck,

>

> As an independent developer of games that are accessible, I "feel your

> pain."

> We've (7-128 Software) been offering games that are accessible to

> blind,

> motion-impaired, or deaf gamers for several years now.

> We do sell some.

> But not a lot.

>

> Our blind colleagues over on audyssey.org report the same results.

> Some sales. But not a lot.

>

> That being said, I think it's due to our weak marketing.

> Something we're working on this year.

>

> As to purchases of your game:

>

> 1. This SIG has relatively few, though influential, members.

> Industry studies indicate that it takes about 100 "contacts" to

> generate

> 1 sale.

>

> 2. Despite your connection with EA (congrats, by the way) we've never

> heard of you.

> No offense meant. Just a fact.

> And that's right after completing our annual survey of Web sites for

> gamers who have special needs.

> I just now Googled "accessible computer games"

> We came up on page 1. We're tiny.

> DanZ came up on page 1. He's out of business.

> You didn't come up in the 1st 10 pages.

> I never saw your review on Mark's site. (Sorry, Mark)

> Nor your ad in Parenting.

> Nor your review in AT News.

> Again, no diss meant. Just the facts.

>

> 3. Not everyone plays sports games.

> Me for instance.

> (I like mystery games.)

>

> It seems unreasonable to expect sales to a small group of people who

> likely have never heard of your game, and may or may not play sports

> games.

>

> However, your frustration is understandable, and shared by us indie

> developers of games that are accessible.

> My personal response to that frustration is to try to do a better

> job of

> marketing and to support groups such as this SIG and sites like Mark's

> and Barrie's, and individual efforts like Robert's and Sandra's to

> make

> people aware of the issue.

>

> To that end, we're adding your Web site to our Top 25 Web Sites for

> Gamers who are Motion Impaired - 2010, as a Site to Watch.

> Not a fantastic help, but we do distribute it to MI-related groups and

> publicity never hurts.

>

> John Bannick

> CTO

> www.7128.com

>

>

>

>

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