[games_access] Website

Thomas Westin thomas at pininteractive.com
Tue Oct 19 07:32:03 EDT 2010 

That is great Chris,

we really need this. I think this should be a top priority for the steering committee 

Best wishes,
Thomas

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On 19Oct 2010, at 4:36 AM, Chris Quinn wrote:

> Hey SIG,
> 
> I'm happy to help out with the website(s).  If you just want someone to
> contribute to the Wiki and the Blog, then I would be happy to post up my
> recently completed thesis work analyzing how to make Warcraft 3
> accessible to players with physical disabilities through the
> user-centered design process. Otherwise, I can provide web hosting,
> create a CMS-driven site with different levels of user access, migrate
> content, develop the information architecture, or whatever else needs to
> be done.  I am unemployed right now and have lots of time on my hands,
> plus I have 8 years of web design and development experience to
> contribute with 5 years specializing in web accessibility. Please let me
> know how I can help.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chris Quinn
> (757) 869-1868
> chris at chrisquinn.com
> http://www.chrisquinn.com (2007 portfolio)
> http://www.accessibilityfusion.com (2010 thesis)
> 
> 
> Michelle Hinn wrote:
>> Time? As much as one can put into it, basically! :)
>> 
>> As of right now, we are located on the wiki, the IGDA's main site, and
>> our blog (that Barrie maintains) -- the main issue is just adding
>> content about projects and information on game accessibility. Not too
>> much tech knowhow is needed -- and for those without it they can get
>> help from others. Basically the SIG just needs people committed to at
>> least making sure there's even a monthly update once we get it built
>> up again. But Ideally someone who can maintain it at least once a week
>> would be great.
>> 
>> It's really not meant for a single person to do -- it's supposed to be
>> collaborative. And it doesn't need to be extensive. It can be... but
>> we have to figure out what the purpose of the website is for the SIG.
>> After all, there are sites like AbleGamers and Special Effect that
>> handle things like reviews and news. Turning the SIG website into
>> another version of either of those groups wouldn't make much sense and
>> time would be better used elsewhere, such as maintaining the Wiki and
>> Blog.
>> 
>> The SIGs website should definitely be something addressed as soon as
>> possible once the new steering committee (who will choose the chair
>> from amongst themselves) is selected.
>> 
>> Michelle
>> 
>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:37 PM, BlazeEagle wrote:
>> 
>>> How much time, effort & tech expertise is required to maintain IGDA's
>>> website?
>>> 
>>> Aaron
>>> 
>>>    *From:* games_access-request at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org>
>>>    *Sent:* Sunday, October 17, 2010 4:47 PM
>>>    *To:* games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>    *Subject:* games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 18
>>> 
>>>    Send games_access mailing list submissions to
>>>    games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>> 
>>>    To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>>    http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>>>    or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>>    games_access-request at igda.org <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org>
>>> 
>>>    You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>    games_access-owner at igda.org <mailto:games_access-owner at igda.org>
>>> 
>>>    When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>>    than "Re: Contents of games_access digest..."
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Today's Topics:
>>> 
>>>       1. Re: Website (Michelle Hinn)
>>>       2. Re: games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
>>>          (thomas at pininteractive.com <mailto:thomas at pininteractive.com>)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>>    Message: 1
>>>    Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 13:38:31 -0500
>>>    From: Michelle Hinn <hinn at uiuc.edu <mailto:hinn at uiuc.edu>>
>>>    Subject: Re: [games_access] Website
>>>    To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>>    <games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>>
>>>    Message-ID: <4DAA35D9-FA1C-47DA-897E-DF6DF18683EC at uiuc.edu
>>>    <mailto:4DAA35D9-FA1C-47DA-897E-DF6DF18683EC at uiuc.edu>>
>>>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>> 
>>>    A few other SIGs have just moved to other places on the web,
>>>    outside the IGDA site. Even if we could just get them to post a
>>>    link (if redirecting is somehow too difficult) to whatever system
>>>    the new steering committee (when elections start) decide on, that
>>>    would be better than nothing. Then we can have a more robust
>>>    system that everyone can access.
>>> 
>>>    Believe me... I'm as frustrated as all of you who have been
>>>    trying to help revamp the SIG's online presence. Things started
>>>    really falling apart when one board member resigned two years ago
>>>    and he was in charge of the web tech. Now so much is in limbo. I
>>>    know things are in the process of being fixed but without someone
>>>    who is a full time employee of the IGDA to focus on that (I don't
>>>    think they have one yet -- just volunteers like the rest of us)
>>>    things won't move very fast.
>>> 
>>>    It's a shame because there was so much time and money put into
>>>    the "new" system and when it rolled out after five years of
>>>    waiting, the human side of the system left and it's the big pink
>>>    virtual elephant in the room for many SIG and Chapter leaders...
>>> 
>>>    Michelle
>>> 
>>>    On Oct 17, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Barrie Ellis wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Definitely something to consider, Aaron - it's a good call.
>>>    We've been using blogger with shared access for some time now, so
>>>    perhaps some of the free hosting solutions for collaborations
>>>    will be the way forward. If we can simply get a redirect from
>>>    www.igda.org/accessibility <http://www.igda.org/accessibility> to
>>>    something we can access, with their blessing, that would be a
>>>    good start!
>>>> 
>>>> Barrie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: BlazeEagle
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 9:02 PM
>>>> To: games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
>>>> 
>>>> Would Google groups be a possible solution? -
>>>> http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&pli=1
>>>    <http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&pli=1>
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know the specifics because I have no experience with
>>>    Google Groups but figure I'd suggest that just in case.
>>>> 
>>>> Aaron
>>>> 
>>>> Peace & God bless you all, Amen.
>>>> From: games_access-request at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:00 AM
>>>> To: games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>> Subject: games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
>>>> 
>>>> Send games_access mailing list submissions to
>>>> games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>> 
>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>>> games_access-request at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org>
>>>> 
>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>> games_access-owner at igda.org <mailto:games_access-owner at igda.org>
>>>> 
>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>>> than "Re: Contents of games_access digest..."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>> 
>>>>   1. Questions about this SIG (Sandra Uhling)
>>>>   2. Re: Questions about this SIG (Michelle Hinn)
>>>>   3. Re: Questions about this SIG (Sandra Uhling)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:22:56 +0200
>>>> From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de
>>>    <mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>>
>>>> Subject: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
>>>> To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
>>>> <games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>>
>>>> Message-ID: <000001cb6c85$3a290c90$ae7b25b0$@de
>>>    <mailto:000001cb6c85$3a290c90$ae7b25b0$@de>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
>>>> but do not want to join the email list?
>>>> 
>>>> Do we have subgroups?
>>>> http://www.igda.org/accessibility
>>>> It looks like that we have two subgroups:
>>>> One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
>>>> Disabilities"
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Sandra
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:31:10 -0500
>>>> From: Michelle Hinn <hinn at uiuc.edu <mailto:hinn at uiuc.edu>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
>>>> To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>>    <games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>>
>>>> Message-ID: <431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu
>>>    <mailto:431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>> 
>>>> yes -- it's accessibility at igda.org <mailto:accessibility at igda.org>
>>>> 
>>>> we've been having trouble with the website -- we've had more
>>>    subgroups and that's something that would be good for the new
>>>    steering committee to discuss (and those running to discuss their
>>>    ideas here for voters). i cannot access the website to add
>>>    anything, nor can barrie and many others. i've asked that the
>>>    igda look into this many times but i've kind of lost steam on
>>>    that because we never get any resolution. i know other sigs are
>>>    also having trouble.
>>>> 
>>>> past subgroups have included "research" "game development"
>>>    "industry relations" etc
>>>> 
>>>> due to health concerns, i am not going to run at all -- but i
>>>    will still be serving as chair emeritus to help the new committee
>>>    understand about the sig past and what contacts and resources we
>>>    have. my immune system has crashed and that causes all my joints
>>>    to seize up    when that happens. :(
>>>> 
>>>> michelle
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> do we have one contact email address for people who have
>>>    questions,
>>>>> but do not want to join the email list?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do we have subgroups?
>>>>> http://www.igda.org/accessibility
>>>>> It looks like that we have two subgroups:
>>>>> One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
>>>>> Disabilities"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Sandra
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> games_access mailing list
>>>>> games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:10:07 +0200
>>>> From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de
>>>    <mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
>>>> To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
>>>> <games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>>
>>>> Message-ID: <000801cb6c94$3326ede0$9974c9a0$@de
>>>    <mailto:000801cb6c94$3326ede0$9974c9a0$@de>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> thanks for the information Michelle,
>>>> 
>>>> Can we still use and edit this wiki?
>>>> http://wiki.igda.org/Game_Accessibility_SIG
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe we can update it step by step, after the selection?
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Sandra
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org>
>>>    [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im
>>>> Auftrag von Michelle Hinn
>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Oktober 2010 19:31
>>>> An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>>> Betreff: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
>>>> 
>>>> yes -- it's accessibility at igda.org <mailto:accessibility at igda.org>
>>>> 
>>>> we've been having trouble with the website -- we've had more
>>>    subgroups and
>>>> that's something that would be good for the new steering
>>>    committee to
>>>> discuss (and those running to discuss their ideas here for
>>>    voters). i cannot
>>>> access the website to add anything, nor can barrie and many
>>>    others. i've
>>>> asked that the igda look into this many times but i've kind of
>>>    lost steam on
>>>> that because we never get any resolution. i know other sigs are
>>>    also having
>>>> trouble.
>>>> 
>>>> past subgroups have included "research" "game development"
>>>    "industry
>>>> relations" etc
>>>> 
>>>> due to health concerns, i am not going to run at all -- but i
>>>    will still be
>>>> serving as chair emeritus to help the new committee understand
>>>    about the sig
>>>> past and what contacts and resources we have. my immune system
>>>    has crashed
>>>> and that causes all my joints to seize up when that happens. :(
>>>> 
>>>> michelle
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> do we have one contact email address for people who have
>>>    questions,
>>>>> but do not want to join the email list?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do we have subgroups?
>>>>> http://www.igda.org/accessibility
>>>>> It looks like that we have two subgroups:
>>>>> One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
>>>>> Disabilities"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Sandra
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> games_access mailing list
>>>>> games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> games_access mailing list
>>>> games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> games_access mailing list
>>>> games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> End of games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
>>>> ********************************************
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> games_access mailing list
>>>> games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> games_access mailing list
>>>> games_access at igda.org <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
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>>>    Message: 2
>>>    Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 22:37:06 +0200
>>>    From: "thomas at pininteractive.com
>>>    <mailto:thomas at pininteractive.com>" <thomas at pininteractive.com
>>>    <mailto:thomas at pininteractive.com>>
>>>    Subject: Re: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
>>>    To: BlazeEagle <blazeeagle at suddenlink.net
>>>    <mailto:blazeeagle at suddenlink.net>>, IGDA Games Accessibility
>>>    SIGMailing List <games_access at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access at igda.org>>
>>>    Message-ID:
>>>    <AEB19E49-5CEC-4F82-860F-82BD5C613A85 at pininteractive.com
>>>    <mailto:AEB19E49-5CEC-4F82-860F-82BD5C613A85 at pininteractive.com>>
>>>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>>    Hi
>>> 
>>>    I have used Google groups; it is OK but G have made it a bit less
>>>    easy to use since they removed file upload; instead you can use
>>>    Google Sites or Code for that of course
>>> 
>>>    Also, while there are shared documents in Groups, Google Docs is
>>>    a better solution for that
>>> 
>>>    Hence, I would vote for using Google Sites for web prescence in
>>>    general, and Docs for shared document editing. For peer
>>>    communication we already have this list
>>> 
>>>    Kind regards,
>>>    Thomas
>>> 
>>>    (Sent from my mobile)
>>> 
>>>    On 16 okt 2010, at 21:57, "BlazeEagle"
>>>    <blazeeagle at suddenlink.net<mailto:blazeeagle at suddenlink.net
>>>    <mailto:blazeeagle at suddenlink.net%3Cmailto:blazeeagle at suddenlink.net>>>
>>>    wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Would Google groups be a possible solution? -
>>>    <http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&pli=1>http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&pli=1
>>>    <http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&pli=1%3Ehttp://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&pli=1>
>>> 
>>>    I don't know the specifics because I have no experience with
>>>    Google Groups but figure I'd suggest that just in case.
>>> 
>>>    Aaron
>>> 
>>>    Peace & God bless you all, Amen.
>>>    From: <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org>
>>>    games_access-request at igda.org<mailto:games_access-request at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access-request at igda.org>>
>>>    Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:00 AM
>>>    To: <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>    games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access at igda.org>>
>>>    Subject: games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
>>> 
>>>    Send games_access mailing list submissions to
>>>    <mailto:games_access at igda.org>games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access at igda.org%3Egames_access at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access at igda.org>>
>>> 
>>>    To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>>    <http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access>http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>>>    <http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access%3Ehttp://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access>
>>>    or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>>    <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org>games_access-request at igda.org<mailto:games_access-request at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org%3Egames_access-request at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access-request at igda.org>>
>>> 
>>>    You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>    <mailto:games_access-owner at igda.org>games_access-owner at igda.org<mailto:games_access-owner at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access-owner at igda.org%3Egames_access-owner at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access-owner at igda.org>>
>>> 
>>>    When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>>    than "Re: Contents of games_access digest..."
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Today's Topics:
>>> 
>>>       1. Questions about this SIG (Sandra Uhling)
>>>       2. Re: Questions about this SIG (Michelle Hinn)
>>>       3. Re: Questions about this SIG (Sandra Uhling)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>>    Message: 1
>>>    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:22:56 +0200
>>>    From: "Sandra Uhling"
>>>    <<mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>sandra_uhling at web.de<mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de
>>>    <mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de%3Esandra_uhling at web.de%3Cmailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>>>
>>>    Subject: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
>>>    To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
>>>    <<mailto:games_access at igda.org>games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access at igda.org%3Egames_access at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access at igda.org>>>
>>>    Message-ID:
>>>    <000001cb6c85$3a290c90$ae7b25b0$@de<mailto:000001cb6c85$3a290c90$ae7b25b0$@de
>>>    <mailto:000001cb6c85$3a290c90$ae7b25b0$@de%3Cmailto:000001cb6c85$3a290c90$ae7b25b0$@de>>>
>>>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>> 
>>>    Hi,
>>> 
>>>    do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
>>>    but do not want to join the email list?
>>> 
>>>    Do we have subgroups?
>>>    <http://www.igda.org/accessibility>http://www.igda.org/accessibility
>>>    <http://www.igda.org/accessibility%3Ehttp://www.igda.org/accessibility>
>>>    It looks like that we have two subgroups:
>>>    One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
>>>    Disabilities"
>>> 
>>>    Best regards,
>>>    Sandra
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    ------------------------------
>>> 
>>>    Message: 2
>>>    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:31:10 -0500
>>>    From: Michelle Hinn
>>>    <<mailto:hinn at uiuc.edu>hinn at uiuc.edu<mailto:hinn at uiuc.edu
>>>    <mailto:hinn at uiuc.edu%3Ehinn at uiuc.edu%3Cmailto:hinn at uiuc.edu>>>
>>>    Subject: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
>>>    To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>>    <<mailto:games_access at igda.org>games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access at igda.org%3Egames_access at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access at igda.org>>>
>>>    Message-ID:
>>>    <<mailto:431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu>431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu<mailto:431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu
>>>    <mailto:431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu%3E431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu%3Cmailto:431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu>>>
>>>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>>    yes -- it's <mailto:accessibility at igda.org>
>>>    accessibility at igda.org<mailto:accessibility at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:accessibility at igda.org%3Cmailto:accessibility at igda.org>>
>>> 
>>>    we've been having trouble with the website -- we've had more
>>>    subgroups and that's something that would be good for the new
>>>    steering committee to discuss (and those running to discuss their
>>>    ideas here for voters). i cannot access the website to add
>>>    anything, nor can barrie and many others. i've asked that the
>>>    igda look into this many times but i've kind of lost steam on
>>>    that because we never get any resolution. i know other sigs are
>>>    also having trouble.
>>> 
>>>    past subgroups have included "research" "game development"
>>>    "industry relations" etc
>>> 
>>>    due to health concerns, i am not going to run at all -- but i
>>>    will still be serving as chair emeritus to help the new committee
>>>    understand about the sig past and what contacts and resources we
>>>    have. my immune system has crashed and that causes all my joints
>>>    to seize up when that happens. :(
>>> 
>>>    michelle
>>> 
>>>    On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
>>>> but do not want to join the email list?
>>>> 
>>>> Do we have subgroups?
>>>> <http://www.igda.org/accessibility>
>>>    http://www.igda.org/accessibility
>>>> It looks like that we have two subgroups:
>>>> One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
>>>> Disabilities"
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Sandra
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> games_access mailing list
>>>> <mailto:games_access at igda.org>
>>>    games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access at igda.org>>
>>>> <http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access>
>>>    http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    ------------------------------
>>> 
>>>    Message: 3
>>>    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:10:07 +0200
>>>    From: "Sandra Uhling"
>>>    <<mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>sandra_uhling at web.de<mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de
>>>    <mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de%3Esandra_uhling at web.de%3Cmailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>>>
>>>    Subject: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
>>>    To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
>>>    <<mailto:games_access at igda.org>games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access at igda.org%3Egames_access at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access at igda.org>>>
>>>    Message-ID:
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>>>    Hi,
>>> 
>>>    thanks for the information Michelle,
>>> 
>>>    Can we still use and edit this wiki?
>>>    <http://wiki.igda.org/Game_Accessibility_SIG>http://wiki.igda.org/Game_Accessibility_SIG
>>>    <http://wiki.igda.org/Game_Accessibility_SIG%3Ehttp://wiki.igda.org/Game_Accessibility_SIG>
>>> 
>>>    Maybe we can update it step by step, after the selection?
>>> 
>>>    Best regards,
>>>    Sandra
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>    Von: <mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org>
>>>    games_access-bounces at igda.org<mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org%3Cmailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org>>
>>>    [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im
>>>    Auftrag von Michelle Hinn
>>>    Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Oktober 2010 19:31
>>>    An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>>    Betreff: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
>>> 
>>>    yes -- it's <mailto:accessibility at igda.org>
>>>    accessibility at igda.org<mailto:accessibility at igda.org
>>>    <mailto:accessibility at igda.org%3Cmailto:accessibility at igda.org>>
>>> 
>>>    we've been having trouble with the website -- we've had more
>>>    subgroups and
>>>    that's something that would be good for the new steering committee to
>>>    discuss (and those running to discuss their ideas here for
>>>    voters). i cannot
>>>    access the website to add anything, nor can barrie and many
>>>    others. i've
>>>    asked that the igda look into this many times but i've kind of
>>>    lost steam on
>>>    that because we never get any resolution. i know other sigs are
>>>    also having
>>>    trouble.
>>> 
>>>    past subgroups have included "research" "game development" "industry
>>>    relations" etc
>>> 
>>>    due to health concerns, i am not going to run at all -- but i
>>>    will still be
>>>    serving as chair emeritus to help the new committee understand
>>>    about the sig
>>>    past and what contacts and resources we have. my immune system
>>>    has crashed
>>>    and that causes all my joints to seize up when that happens. :(
>>> 
>>>    michelle
>>> 
>>>    On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
>>>> but do not want to join the email list?
>>>> 
>>>> Do we have subgroups?
>>>> <http://www.igda.org/accessibility>
>>>    http://www.igda.org/accessibility
>>>> It looks like that we have two subgroups:
>>>> One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
>>>> Disabilities"
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Sandra
>>>> 
>>>> 
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