[games_access] Affordability of Game Accessibility

blazeeagle at suddenlink.net blazeeagle at suddenlink.net
Sat Dec 10 18:35:58 EST 2011


Well, What about disabled gamers on a limited or even a fixed income who
can't afford the game accessibility equipment required to play? That seems
like an valid accessibility concern. Even if someone with limited funds has
a game console or PC with a game or two, It might have been a gift & not
acquired via ones own personal funds.

My intention isn't to seem miserly but this aspect, In my experience at
least, Can be ignored or brushed aside.

Kind regards,

BlazeEagle

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:03:12 +0100
From: Thomas Westin <thomasw at dsv.su.se>
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the term accessibility is used in many contexts and means different things,
so it is only a matter of which definition you use

using the definition defined by the SIG in the 2004 white paper:
Game Accessibility can be defined as the ability to play a game even when
functioning under limiting conditions. Limiting conditions can be functional
limitations, or disabilities ? such as blindness, deafness, or mobility
limitations.

the text says "Limiting conditions can be..." which does not exclude other
factors than disabilities - such as things in the environment e.g. gray
colors, small display etc.

Mvh / Best regards
Thomas Westin
Stockholm University :: dsv.su.se :: +46 73-707 86 86

On 5Dec 2011, at 1:00 PM, Sandra Uhling wrote:


> Hello,

>

> I would like to know your thoughts about this:

> Is this Game Accessibility, too?

>

>

> * offline modus needs internet connection

> * game needs to be registered you need an account

>

> * display can only show gray colors

> * display is very small

> * hardware has only a small amount of buttons

>

>

> I am not sure, but did we already say that money is not part of

> Game Accessibility? That is another area, but not Game Accessibility.

>

> Best regards,

> Sandra

>

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It?s not necessarily a accessibility issue per se but if a disabled person
wants to play offline & if their disability is severe enough, The gamer must
have assistance with typing in their log in credentials. Because unless I?m
mistaken, some games even in single player, off line mode, still require
logging in with their credentials.

A display that can only show gray colors can impact accessibility if
game-play requires recognition of colors to accomplish game objectives. So,
This is definitely an accessibility issue. In addition to color objective
indicators, Objectives could have text indicators.

A small display can definitely affect gamers with vision impairments. If a
display is too small, glasses or even a magnification overlay, won?t help
much if at all.

A small amount of buttons can definitely affect gamers with certain
disabilities. Also, Button positions can affect game accessibility for those
with impaired hand/finger dexterity and/or impaired coordination.
Reconfigurable button positions would be quite beneficial.

Money IS a part of game accessibility because if a gamer can?t afford
accessible controllers and/or other accessibility equipment, They obviously
can?t game!

Kind regards,

BlazeEagle

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:00:41 +0100
From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
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Hello,

I would like to know your thoughts about this:
Is this Game Accessibility, too?


* offline modus needs internet connection
* game needs to be registered you need an account

* display can only show gray colors
* display is very small
* hardware has only a small amount of buttons


I am not sure, but did we already say that money is not part of
Game Accessibility? That is another area, but not Game Accessibility.

Best regards,
Sandra



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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 12:41:43 +0100
From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
Subject: Re: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 94, Issue 2
To: <blazeeagle at suddenlink.net>, "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG
Mailing List'" <games_access at igda.org>
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Hello Blazeeagle,

thank you very much.

Anno 2070 needs in single offline mode an internet connection.
The gamer has also to create a profile. (Screenreader accessible?)

Money: I thought about a social barrier:
A family with healthy kids does not have money to buy a game.
This is not part of Accessibility I would say.



Best regards,
Sandra


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Betreff: Re: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 94, Issue 2

It?s not necessarily a accessibility issue per se but if a disabled person
wants to play offline & if their disability is severe enough, The gamer must
have assistance with typing in their log in credentials. Because unless I?m
mistaken, some games even in single player, off line mode, still require
logging in with their credentials.

A display that can only show gray colors can impact accessibility if
game-play requires recognition of colors to accomplish game objectives. So,
This is definitely an accessibility issue. In addition to color objective
indicators, Objectives could have text indicators.

A small display can definitely affect gamers with vision impairments. If a
display is too small, glasses or even a magnification overlay, won?t help
much if at all.

A small amount of buttons can definitely affect gamers with certain
disabilities. Also, Button positions can affect game accessibility for those
with impaired hand/finger dexterity and/or impaired coordination.
Reconfigurable button positions would be quite beneficial.

Money IS a part of game accessibility because if a gamer can?t afford
accessible controllers and/or other accessibility equipment, They obviously
can?t game!

Kind regards,

BlazeEagle

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:00:41 +0100
From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
Subject: [games_access] Game Accessibility and Hardware
To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
<games_access at igda.org>
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Hello,

I would like to know your thoughts about this:
Is this Game Accessibility, too?


* offline modus needs internet connection
* game needs to be registered you need an account

* display can only show gray colors
* display is very small
* hardware has only a small amount of buttons


I am not sure, but did we already say that money is not part of
Game Accessibility? That is another area, but not Game Accessibility.

Best regards,
Sandra



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