[games_access] Accessible Controller Providers

Wed Jan 12 17:26:13 EST 2011

Hi,

that is on my todo list. But it will take some time.
I have to do for my study.

There are five buttons. You can use them single or together.
You can put them to a cross +, or in line -----
You can also put also something in between when you use the line version, to
make it longer.
It is "splash water" proof.

http://www.world-of-genesis.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id
=33&Itemid=25

I just surfed in their forum, found this link
http://www.eventghost.org/

" EventGhost is an advanced, easy to use and extensible automation tool for
MS Windows. It can use different input devices like infrared or wireless
remote controls to trigger macros, that on their part control a computer and
its attached hardware. So it can be used to control a Media-PC with a normal
consumer remote. But its possible uses go much beyond this."

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AT is also one of the topics of the UN Convention CRPD.

It would be great to have a list with AT Providers.
I could send the list to my contacts and they can add their information.

Best regards,
Sandra

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Auftrag von Tara Tefertiller
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2011 22:56
An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
Betreff: Re: [games_access] Accessible Controller Providers

Sandra,

Is there an English version of this site available? Or Spanish? Either one
would be a little more beneficial to me than German. :)

Tara

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Sandra Uhling <sandra_uhling at web.de> wrote:

	Hi,

	the button keyboard  from http://www.world-of-genesis.org/ should be
not expensive.
	But they produce only few. You have to pay only the production cost.

	Best regards,
	Sandra

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		Von: "Michelle Hinn" <hinn at uiuc.edu>
		Gesendet: 12.01.2011 21:43:00
		An: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List"
<games_access at igda.org>
		Betreff: Re: [games_access] Accessible Controller Providers

		True, Barrie -- the Staples buttons were more of a joke but
every time I see them I can help but think of switches! :) 
		Yeah, the main issue is really quality and the fact that if
you need to buy quite a few...well, that cost is a huge barrier for gaming
and other things for so many people. Buy enough cheaper switches and you
might as well have invested in the more expensive ones -- it might save you
money in the long run. At least with the switches, the technology isn't
dependent on the continuing changes in game consoles and controllers...so
far.
		Michelle

		On Jan 12, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Barrie Ellis wrote:

			I would say that AbleNet switches are many many
times better quality than the Staples buttons, with the large ones having
about twice the surface area. I looked at adapting those red buttons, but
they're very poorly made, and wouldn't suit .

			Gavin Philips posted a nice D.I.Y. guide to build a
sub $10/£6 switch using CD's: http://www.gavinphilips.com/projects/cdswitch

			And these are a bit more:
http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/4/DIY/switches.htm (illuminated switch) -
http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/4/DIY/switches-suckpuff.htm (sip-puff switch).

			AbleNet have been knocking out that particular
design of "Big-Red" type switches for about 20 years. Agree they are
expensive, but they do tend to last a long time. I've got a couple that are
at least 12 years old and still going strong. Sometimes you're paying for
quality. It just hurts when a tailor built set-up can end up costing
hundreds and even thousands of pounds.

			Cheers,

			Barrie

			From: Michelle Hinn <mailto:hinn at uiuc.edu> 
			Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:06 PM
			To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
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			Subject: Re: [games_access] Accessible Controller
Providers
			I agree -- the cost of switches are pretty
outragious and for many people more than one switch needs to be bought in
order to work with an accessible controller that allows the plug in of
switches. I understand the supply/demand process and that the more
individualized a controller has to be, the higher the costs (since those are
custom made)...but when you add the cost of those to the additional costs of
the switches?? Crazy. And not all controllers -- videogame or otherwise --
can accept the USB format but I still don't understand how the pricing
structure is justified. Even the largest of the switches that some people
need that look like the Staples office supply "easy button" cannot cost that
much for the "shell" of the switch. 
			I mean switches are used for ALL KINDS of things and
the big companies like AbleNet that provide those really have the pricing
set high and I'm not sure why. Perhaps there's a connection to insurance --
if switches can be taken off of insurance because it's used for something on
their list as an "ok" deduction, the incentive for lowering the prices goes
down like with any other medical supply. I don't really know the answer. 
			I know...I'm no economist or manufacturer of these
devices but I definitely would be interested in why it costs so much for
these.
			Michelle

			On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Tim Holt wrote:

				Now if the prices on controllers were more
realistic.  Given that a $US 3.95 USB mouse has about the same functionality
(more actually) as a USB-enabled 1 switch, it's mind boggling how much
switches cost.  
				Tim

				On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Tara
Tefertiller <ttefertiller at igda-gasig.org> wrote:

					Thank you Barrie! 

					On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:10 AM,
Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:

						Lots of useful shopping
links via http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/1/AGS.htm - including LEPMIS,
Broadened Horizons, Consoles and Gadgets etc. Places for mods here:
http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/1/AGS/AGS-bespoke.htm - And depending on what
you're after, eBay can even be quite good.

						Best wishes,

						Barrie

						From: Tara Tefertiller
<mailto:ttefertiller at igda-gasig.org> 
						Sent: Monday, January 10,
2011 6:27 PM
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SIG Mailing List <mailto:games_access at igda.org> 
						Subject: [games_access]
Accessible Controller Providers
						Hey everyone, 

						I was recently asked where
accessible controllers could be ordered from. I know they can be ordered
from One Switch and Evil controllers will do some mods, but what are
additional places they can be ordered? I wanted to get together a list a
present that if it's possible.

						Thanks everyone!

						Tara

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