From sandra_uhling at web.de  Mon Apr  1 13:33:21 2013
From: sandra_uhling at web.de (Sandra Uhling)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:33:21 +0100
Subject: [games_access] SIG
Message-ID: <001201ce2eff$02de8a00$089b9e00$@de>

Hello, hrere are three points from me J

 

 

# GDC - Europe:

Idea: Maybe one central private online document for first ideas, persons,
etc. would be nice?

This will make it much easier to give feedback.

 

 

# Sleeping SIG?

Well from the outside this might be true. But there is much more J

* Sandra learned directly and indirectly GA and became an active member of
this SIG.

* Articles in different magazines, websites, ...

* Establishing contacts to lots of people in the Games industry

 

* Germany: 

** Game Accessibility Showcase at the gamescom conference, 2011

** Game Accessibility Event in Munich, 2012

** Support of an education game project, 2013 (ongoing)

 

 

# Idea for a central SIG project:

I would like to do this: We do not have a basic, common understanding of GA.

I would like to establish a common philosophy that this SIG supports.

I have a nice raw version that includes all gamers. The key point is to see

gamers as individuals with different needs.

 

But I am not sure how this can be realized. One possibility is this:

On Sunday I will put one small (very very small) part on a private online
document.

Active members can give feedback and talk about this (forum, separate email
list?).

At the end of one week we have a second version.

Passive members can look at it and can give final feedback.

 

This will be very slow, but it gives people time they need.

This will allow active member to be active and passive member

to give at least final feedback.

 

What do you think?

 

This will maybe also be a nice part of our next white paper.

It will answer central and important questions and it will

help to avoid misunderstandings.

 

 

Regards,

Sandra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From oneswitch at gmail.com  Mon Apr  1 18:48:32 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 23:48:32 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Dive Kick: Two-switch fighting game
Message-ID: <6F67757B51AE4FA58845BE24573A95F5@OneSwitchPC>

Great to see a highly accessible fighting game mobility wise doing the rounds at PAX. Many thanks to Ian for the tip-off:

http://switchgaming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/dive-kick-vs-woteh-2-vs-tekken-6.html

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From steve at ablegamers.com  Mon Apr  1 18:50:02 2013
From: steve at ablegamers.com (Steve Spohn)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:50:02 -0400
Subject: [games_access] Dive Kick: Two-switch fighting game
In-Reply-To: <6F67757B51AE4FA58845BE24573A95F5@OneSwitchPC>
References: <6F67757B51AE4FA58845BE24573A95F5@OneSwitchPC>
Message-ID: <CABrM+MUa3G0j6aAHXNm5RMun5MMFpN8mxADzLP1EUhhrnX8ZYw@mail.gmail.com>

It was great to see, but a pax-only stunt.


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:

> **
> Great to see a highly accessible fighting game mobility wise doing the
> rounds at PAX. Many thanks to Ian for the tip-off:
>
>
> http://switchgaming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/dive-kick-vs-woteh-2-vs-tekken-6.html
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> games_access at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org
>
>


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From steve at ablegamers.com  Mon Apr  1 21:16:11 2013
From: steve at ablegamers.com (Steve Spohn)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 21:16:11 -0400
Subject: [games_access] Game Accessibility on NBC News
Message-ID: <CABrM+MVmwFBnMC3L2GD9u-aGTb+7Ewn=Fq5M9jnw60mXPmMRCA@mail.gmail.com>

Very proud of our mainstream coverage from PAX East.

The AbleGamers foundation was interviewed by NBC News. Check it out.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/in-game/51398153#51398153

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From michellehinn at gmail.com  Mon Apr  1 22:46:43 2013
From: michellehinn at gmail.com (Michelle Hinn)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 22:46:43 -0400
Subject: [games_access] Dive Kick: Two-switch fighting game
In-Reply-To: <CABrM+MUa3G0j6aAHXNm5RMun5MMFpN8mxADzLP1EUhhrnX8ZYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6F67757B51AE4FA58845BE24573A95F5@OneSwitchPC>
	<CABrM+MUa3G0j6aAHXNm5RMun5MMFpN8mxADzLP1EUhhrnX8ZYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+bf7W5fGgr-ph8VCXX82Xkfwce-x7w-BuWYtT3+GKF2DOFBDA@mail.gmail.com>

According to the article he linked to it was also at GDC. Did they
mean it was coming out this spring as in any day now? Sounds like a
really fun and well-like game! :)

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Steve Spohn <steve at ablegamers.com> wrote:
> It was great to see, but a pax-only stunt.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Great to see a highly accessible fighting game mobility wise doing the
>> rounds at PAX. Many thanks to Ian for the tip-off:
>>
>>
>> http://switchgaming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/dive-kick-vs-woteh-2-vs-tekken-6.html
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> games_access mailing list
>> games_access at igda.org
>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
>> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Steve Spohn
> Editor-In-Chief
> The AbleGamers Foundation
> AbleGamers.com | AbleGamers.org | Facebook | Twitter
>
> _______________________________________________
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> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org
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From i_h at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  2 02:23:23 2013
From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:23:23 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Dive Kick: Two-switch fighting game
In-Reply-To: <mailman.382.1364870804.8857.games_access@igda.org>
References: <mailman.382.1364870804.8857.games_access@igda.org>
Message-ID: <DUB116-W34EC32D07DAD18C9B3A90A91DF0@phx.gbl>

Not PAX only, it's a regular game. 

It started out just as a joke, a parody of fighting games, but once they realised they had something that was actually really pure and fun they got funding to develop it through kickstarter, and are now going to publish through Iron Galaxy for PC, PS3 and Vita in the Summer (not currently 360 due to lack of self publishing options, although they'll try for it if successful enough on other platforms).

The thing that is currently a one-off is the controller, which they built specifically for taking to events (they had it at GDC as well as PAX), but the two button controls will still be in, so it'll be compatible with people's existing two-switch setups.

They are pretty much constantly being asked about their demo controller though, about whether or not it's going to be mass produced, they keep getting asked both at events and on twitter etc. about whether it will be mass-produced. They started off saying no, but are now saying 'if we can find the right deal'.

It's not outside the realms of possibility, back in the day I had this controller for my old Atari 800: http://www.gamestencils.com/sc_images/DSC02121.JPG, and obviously more recently there was this too: http://www.virginmedia.com/images/1dk_bongo.jpg

If the controller was to be mass produced it might even lead to people making more games for it, ie. some more interesting two-switch compatible mechanics...

Ian
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:50:02 -0400
> From: Steve Spohn <steve at ablegamers.com>
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Dive Kick: Two-switch fighting game
> To: Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com>, 	IGDA Games Accessibility SIG
> 	Mailing List <games_access at igda.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<CABrM+MUa3G0j6aAHXNm5RMun5MMFpN8mxADzLP1EUhhrnX8ZYw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> It was great to see, but a pax-only stunt.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > **
> > Great to see a highly accessible fighting game mobility wise doing the
> > rounds at PAX. Many thanks to Ian for the tip-off:
> >
> >
> > http://switchgaming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/dive-kick-vs-woteh-2-vs-tekken-6.html
> >
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From i_h at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  2 02:28:34 2013
From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:28:34 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Dive Kick: Two-switch fighting game
In-Reply-To: <DUB116-W34EC32D07DAD18C9B3A90A91DF0@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.382.1364870804.8857.games_access@igda.org>,
	<DUB116-W34EC32D07DAD18C9B3A90A91DF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DUB116-W1079799052F99B70809C65991DF0@phx.gbl>

Everyone who saw it was going wild for it. I saw this game being played at GDC for $500 stakes:

http://instagram.com/p/XZSj6LAkJa/

From: i_h at hotmail.com
To: games_access at igda.org
Subject: RE: [games_access] Dive Kick: Two-switch fighting game
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:23:23 +0100




Not PAX only, it's a regular game. 

It started out just as a joke, a parody of fighting games, but once they realised they had something that was actually really pure and fun they got funding to develop it through kickstarter, and are now going to publish through Iron Galaxy for PC, PS3 and Vita in the Summer (not currently 360 due to lack of self publishing options, although they'll try for it if successful enough on other platforms).

The thing that is currently a one-off is the controller, which they built specifically for taking to events (they had it at GDC as well as PAX), but the two button controls will still be in, so it'll be compatible with people's existing two-switch setups.

They are pretty much constantly being asked about their demo controller though, about whether or not it's going to be mass produced, they keep getting asked both at events and on twitter etc. about whether it will be mass-produced. They started off saying no, but are now saying 'if we can find the right deal'.

It's not outside the realms of possibility, back in the day I had this controller for my old Atari 800: http://www.gamestencils.com/sc_images/DSC02121.JPG, and obviously more recently there was this too: http://www.virginmedia.com/images/1dk_bongo.jpg

If the controller was to be mass produced it might even lead to people making more games for it, ie. some more interesting two-switch compatible mechanics...

Ian
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:50:02 -0400
> From: Steve Spohn <steve at ablegamers.com>
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Dive Kick: Two-switch fighting game
> To: Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com>, 	IGDA Games Accessibility SIG
> 	Mailing List <games_access at igda.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<CABrM+MUa3G0j6aAHXNm5RMun5MMFpN8mxADzLP1EUhhrnX8ZYw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> It was great to see, but a pax-only stunt.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > **
> > Great to see a highly accessible fighting game mobility wise doing the
> > rounds at PAX. Many thanks to Ian for the tip-off:
> >
> >
> > http://switchgaming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/dive-kick-vs-woteh-2-vs-tekken-6.html
> >
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From i_h at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  2 02:31:05 2013
From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:31:05 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Game Accessibility on NBC News
In-Reply-To: <mailman.382.1364870804.8857.games_access@igda.org>
References: <mailman.382.1364870804.8857.games_access@igda.org>
Message-ID: <DUB116-W832EE976813A0B7237895E91DF0@phx.gbl>

Congrats, looks great :)
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 21:16:11 -0400
> From: Steve Spohn <steve at ablegamers.com>
> Subject: [games_access] Game Accessibility on NBC News
> To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List <games_access at igda.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<CABrM+MVmwFBnMC3L2GD9u-aGTb+7Ewn=Fq5M9jnw60mXPmMRCA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Very proud of our mainstream coverage from PAX East.
> 
> The AbleGamers foundation was interviewed by NBC News. Check it out.
> http://www.nbcnews.com/video/in-game/51398153#51398153
> 
> -- 
> Steve Spohn
> Editor-In-Chief
> The AbleGamers Foundation
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From oneswitch at gmail.com  Tue Apr  2 04:26:14 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:26:14 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Game Accessibility on NBC News
In-Reply-To: <CABrM+MVmwFBnMC3L2GD9u-aGTb+7Ewn=Fq5M9jnw60mXPmMRCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABrM+MVmwFBnMC3L2GD9u-aGTb+7Ewn=Fq5M9jnw60mXPmMRCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9888F2E9A6FE4C9DBBF57AFDE3F493FD@OneSwitchPC>

Great to keep pushing that message for greater access. It's an important one.


From: Steve Spohn 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 2:16 AM
To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 
Subject: [games_access] Game Accessibility on NBC News


Very proud of our mainstream coverage from PAX East.  


The AbleGamers foundation was interviewed by NBC News. Check it out. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/in-game/51398153#51398153



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From oneswitch at gmail.com  Tue Apr  2 10:15:31 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:15:31 +0100
Subject: [games_access] eyeCharm: Kickstarter for Kinect based affordable
	eye-gaze control: 4 days left
Message-ID: <6DD8C08EA4F5440FBE9B360AA257B0D1@OneSwitchPC>

Not long to go with this laudable project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/4tiitoo/nuia-eyecharm-kinect-to-eye-tracking/posts/439551

If anyone is in a position to back this/give it a push on-line - it would be appreciated. Really hope this makes its target. 

Barrie
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From i_h at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  3 10:07:52 2013
From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:07:52 +0100
Subject: [games_access] eyeCharm: Kickstarter for Kinect based
 affordable	eye-gaze control: 4 days left (Barrie Ellis)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1364997606.31810.games_access@igda.org>
References: <mailman.7.1364997606.31810.games_access@igda.org>
Message-ID: <DUB116-W385CE3D11BDC574981EAD91D80@phx.gbl>

Backed & tweeted

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> Not long to go with this laudable project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/4tiitoo/nuia-eyecharm-kinect-to-eye-tracking/posts/439551
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From eleanor at 7128.com  Tue Apr  9 12:12:35 2013
From: eleanor at 7128.com (Eleanor Robinson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 12:12:35 -0400
Subject: [games_access] Top 25 Lists
Message-ID: <51643DF3.6040306@7128.com>

Just wanted to let you all know that we have posted the 2013 list of Top 
websites for Gamers who are Blind, Deaf, and Motion Impaired. It is a 
good resource for anyone who wants to know about accessible games and 
the people who make them, are advocates for them, provide community for 
gamers and write reviews of accessible games.  And the URL's for these 
websites are right in the list writeup.

The lists can be seen by going to www.7128.com

Eleanor Robinson
7-128 Software


From steve at ablegamers.com  Tue Apr  9 12:18:43 2013
From: steve at ablegamers.com (Steve Spohn)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:18:43 -0400
Subject: [games_access] Top 25 Lists
In-Reply-To: <51643DF3.6040306@7128.com>
References: <51643DF3.6040306@7128.com>
Message-ID: <CABrM+MVDE-XMeu_Pv8kRMr-ugHsmtNRS=ZKeJa7f6mbnZtNaig@mail.gmail.com>

Very cool, Eleanor. Great resource.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Eleanor Robinson <eleanor at 7128.com> wrote:

> Just wanted to let you all know that we have posted the 2013 list of Top
> websites for Gamers who are Blind, Deaf, and Motion Impaired. It is a good
> resource for anyone who wants to know about accessible games and the people
> who make them, are advocates for them, provide community for gamers and
> write reviews of accessible games.  And the URL's for these websites are
> right in the list writeup.
>
> The lists can be seen by going to www.7128.com
>
> Eleanor Robinson
> 7-128 Software
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From oneswitch at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 17:30:19 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 22:30:19 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Top 25 Lists
In-Reply-To: <51643DF3.6040306@7128.com>
References: <51643DF3.6040306@7128.com>
Message-ID: <A4C53EECEF94457F91D6EE0FD8372813@OneSwitchPC>

Superb stuff, Eleanor. You're the only people doing this, and for the last five years have created such a useful resource beyond your own mighty-fine creations. 

Thank you!

Barrie


From: Eleanor Robinson 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 5:12 PM
To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 
Subject: [games_access] Top 25 Lists


Just wanted to let you all know that we have posted the 2013 list of Top 
websites for Gamers who are Blind, Deaf, and Motion Impaired. It is a 
good resource for anyone who wants to know about accessible games and 
the people who make them, are advocates for them, provide community for 
gamers and write reviews of accessible games.  And the URL's for these 
websites are right in the list writeup.

The lists can be seen by going to www.7128.com

Eleanor Robinson
7-128 Software
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From i_h at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 17 20:01:20 2013
From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton)
Date: 17 Apr 2013 17:01:20 -0700
Subject: [games_access] =?utf-8?q?Talk_on_Australian_game_accessibility_de?=
 =?utf-8?q?velopments?=
Message-ID: <BAY403-EAS1928ED308B0AF5A7D8BF10A91CF0@phx.gbl>


Great talk by Brad Giblin about the Film Victoria accessibility criteria, lots of nice insight into the process, benefits, reception etc.

Well worth a watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbk7MBql4h8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Lynsey Graham did another great talk at the same conference (hope this isn't embarrassing you Lynsey!) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SQeeu8FLtM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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From sandra_uhling at web.de  Fri Apr 26 11:38:17 2013
From: sandra_uhling at web.de (Sandra Uhling)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:38:17 +0200
Subject: [games_access] US Antidiscrimination Law,  ?
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Hello,

US Antidiscrimination Law, 1990?

There was something about accessibility in the private sectors.

 

Regards,

Sandra

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From i_h at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 28 09:27:42 2013
From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:27:42 +0100
Subject: [games_access] 1. US Antidiscrimination Law, ? (Sandra Uhling)
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It's title III of the ADA that you're thinking of. It does cover private sector but only in a very limited scope, it only applies to access to physical locations, or goods and services within those physical locations. 
The notion that discrimination and exclusion is only of any relevance to the private sector when it happens in a public place is a pretty poor one. 
Take Walmart for example, their website is obviously far more useful for people with a wide range of impairments than their physical stores. However there is no legal requirement for their web store to be accessible, and a strong legal requirement for their physical store to be accessible.
It was title III that was the basis for that old failed vision-impaired gamer Vs Sony legal case about access to  online environments such as Everquest, quashed on the basis that "places of public accommodation" refers only to physical rather than virtual environments. 
There's a really good article about it here:

http://www.gamerlaw.co.uk/2010/games-disability-and-anti-discrimination-laws/
And more details about title III itself here:
http://www.ada.gov/t3hilght.htm


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From sandra_uhling at web.de  Sun Apr 28 12:18:29 2013
From: sandra_uhling at web.de (Sandra Uhling)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:18:29 +0200
Subject: [games_access] 1. US Antidiscrimination Law, ? (Sandra Uhling)
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Hi,

sometimes it is stupid. It is all about power instead of what people need.

An US politician told german politicians that we need something like this,
too.

But it seems that they both have to do something ....

 

Thanks,

Sandra

 

Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im
Auftrag von Ian Hamilton
Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. April 2013 15:28
An: games_access at igda.org
Betreff: Re: [games_access] 1. US Antidiscrimination Law, ? (Sandra Uhling)

 

It's title III of the ADA that you're thinking of. It does cover private
sector but only in a very limited scope, it only applies to access to
physical locations, or goods and services within those physical locations. 

 

The notion that discrimination and exclusion is only of any relevance to the
private sector when it happens in a public place is a pretty poor one. 

 

Take Walmart for example, their website is obviously far more useful for
people with a wide range of impairments than their physical stores. However
there is no legal requirement for their web store to be accessible, and a
strong legal requirement for their physical store to be accessible.

 

It was title III that was the basis for that old failed vision-impaired
gamer Vs Sony legal case about access to  online environments such as
Everquest, quashed on the basis that "places of public accommodation" refers
only to physical rather than virtual environments. 

 

There's a really good article about it here:

 

http://www.gamerlaw.co.uk/2010/games-disability-and-anti-discrimination-laws
/

 

And more details about title III itself here:

 

http://www.ada.gov/t3hilght.htm



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From i_h at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 29 19:37:08 2013
From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 00:37:08 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Global accessibility awareness day
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Hi all


Just in case you aren't aware yet, May 9th is global accessibility awareness day.


That mostly means events and talks. If there's anything at all like that that you can do let the organisers know on globala11yawarenessday at gmail.com and tweet about it on the day using the #gaad hash tag. 


If organising something is too much, there may be an event happening near you that you could give a talk at - again contact the  on globala11yawarenessday at gmail.com.

Or an article in the press or on a personal blog, or even just a hashtagged tweet on its own, regardless of what you can manage it's a great opportunity to spread the word while a great many people's attention is focused on accessibility.


https://www.facebook.com/globalaccessibilityawarenessday


http://www.globalaccessibilityawarenessday.org


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From oneswitch at gmail.com  Tue Apr 30 17:17:58 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:17:58 +0100
Subject: [games_access] OAK Air Switches
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Really brilliant development for switch users: http://switchgaming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/oak-air-switch-pc-kinect.html

Air-switches using PCs and Kinect.

Probably will hook up to Xbox 360/PS3 using a Cronus adapter too, but no idea how laggy it would be. Certainly a glimpse of what's to come though.

Barrie
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