From sandra_uhling at web.de  Mon Dec  2 15:49:50 2013
From: sandra_uhling at web.de (Sandra Uhling)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 21:49:50 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Question about special adaption of a controller
Message-ID: <003b01ceefa0$0c542510$24fc6f30$@de>

Hello,

a gamer from swiss would like to know if
we can buy stuff like this in Germany/Swiss.

http://www.broadenedhorizons.com/versatility-ps3


He needs something like this for a Nintendo Wii U.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MEDMo8t8Ik

Regards,
Sandra



From oneswitch at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 16:24:06 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 21:24:06 -0000
Subject: [games_access] Question about special adaption of a controller
In-Reply-To: <003b01ceefa0$0c542510$24fc6f30$@de>
References: <003b01ceefa0$0c542510$24fc6f30$@de>
Message-ID: <278C95325E884683BE7E06E2D4C5C555@OneSwitchPC>

Not for Wii U that I'm aware of. A nightmare platform for physical access for many. What exactly do they need, do you know?

Barrie





From: Sandra Uhling 
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 8:49 PM
To: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List' 
Subject: [games_access] Question about special adaption of a controller


Hello,

a gamer from swiss would like to know if
we can buy stuff like this in Germany/Swiss.

http://www.broadenedhorizons.com/versatility-ps3


He needs something like this for a Nintendo Wii U.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MEDMo8t8Ik

Regards,
Sandra

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From brian at gamesoundcon.com  Wed Dec  4 18:03:03 2013
From: brian at gamesoundcon.com (Brian Schmidt)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 15:03:03 -0800
Subject: [games_access] Question about special adaption of a controller
In-Reply-To: <003b01ceefa0$0c542510$24fc6f30$@de>
References: <003b01ceefa0$0c542510$24fc6f30$@de>
Message-ID: <00a401cef144$fce26a50$f6a73ef0$@gamesoundcon.com>

Nice article on blind gaming in a New Yorker Mag blog..

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/where-are-the-games-f
or-disabled-players.html

Brian



From oneswitch at gmail.com  Mon Dec  9 03:40:55 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 08:40:55 -0000
Subject: [games_access] Cronus Max (PS4 and XboxOne)
Message-ID: <7B3FBF8FA0D0443788198571CE521C48@OneSwitchPC>

http://switchgaming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/ps4-and-xbox-one-exciting-news.html

Could be great news for overcoming the most complex pack-in controllers ever.
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From agdev at thechases.com  Sun Dec 15 08:28:18 2013
From: agdev at thechases.com (Tim Chase)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 07:28:18 -0600
Subject: [games_access] Recent article about AbleGamers in Reader's Digest
Message-ID: <20131215072818.1da932d8@bigbox.christie.dr>

Just a little note to say congrats to the AbleGamers.com crew for
getting a mention on page 44 of the December 2013 issue of Reader's
Digest "Play Games, Help Kids" article.  I hope the good publicity
gives you a nice boost in awareness!

-Tim






From thomas at pininteractive.com  Sun Dec 15 11:52:54 2013
From: thomas at pininteractive.com (Thomas Westin)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 17:52:54 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Recent article about AbleGamers in Reader's
	Digest
In-Reply-To: <20131215072818.1da932d8@bigbox.christie.dr>
References: <20131215072818.1da932d8@bigbox.christie.dr>
Message-ID: <8768BBAC-867F-41AF-AE97-3967FDD58E37@pininteractive.com>

Great!

15Dec 2013 kl. 2:28 PM skrev Tim Chase <agdev at thechases.com>:

> Just a little note to say congrats to the AbleGamers.com crew for
> getting a mention on page 44 of the December 2013 issue of Reader's
> Digest "Play Games, Help Kids" article.  I hope the good publicity
> gives you a nice boost in awareness!
> 
> -Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> games_access mailing list
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From thomas at pininteractive.com  Tue Dec 17 04:20:53 2013
From: thomas at pininteractive.com (Thomas Westin)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:20:53 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Alt.Ctrl at GDC!
Message-ID: <30DCAF7C-EE53-44D0-9020-5DB2067AE46E@pininteractive.com>

Hi all,

This is really cool, someone on this list should definitely take action regarding accessibility; I am swamped in thesis work at the moment and controllers is not my speciality.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/205735/GDC_2014_wants_submissions_for_ALTCTRL_alternative_controller_exhibit.php#comments

Best regards,
Thomas
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From i_h at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 17 15:36:03 2013
From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:36:03 +0000
Subject: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 120, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1387206005.52408.games_access@igda.org>
References: <mailman.3.1387206005.52408.games_access@igda.org>
Message-ID: <DUB116-W512F0B9605E1C628196B2C91DB0@phx.gbl>

Always great to see coverage outside the games or accessibility press!

> From: games_access-request at igda.org
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> Great!
> 
> 15Dec 2013 kl. 2:28 PM skrev Tim Chase <agdev at thechases.com>:
> 
> > Just a little note to say congrats to the AbleGamers.com crew for
> > getting a mention on page 44 of the December 2013 issue of Reader's
> > Digest "Play Games, Help Kids" article.  I hope the good publicity
> > gives you a nice boost in awareness!
> > 
> > -Tim
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From i_h at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 17 15:36:38 2013
From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:36:38 +0000
Subject: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 120, Issue 6
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Absolutely, I've passed on to a few people at least

> From: games_access-request at igda.org
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:20:53 +0100
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> Hi all,
> 
> This is really cool, someone on this list should definitely take action regarding accessibility; I am swamped in thesis work at the moment and controllers is not my speciality.
> 
> http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/205735/GDC_2014_wants_submissions_for_ALTCTRL_alternative_controller_exhibit.php#comments
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From oneswitch at gmail.com  Wed Dec 18 18:27:34 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 23:27:34 -0000
Subject: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility
Message-ID: <E3B4E76F634E4C188C4AC3865CD88A80@OneSwitchPC>

Thought I'd post a little update on the Xbox One vs. PS4 for physical access...

Seems the Xbox One presently has a massive advantage, as the Cronus Max team (www.cronusmax.com) have managed to get their cross-controller converter working.

It's said that a huge range of PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers (including many custom accessible controllers) will now work on the Xbox One. The Max Aim App will also allow a Windows PC to connect, enabling speech, JoyToKey (for all kinds of things) and the likes of GlovePie (tailor made speech commands) to work the Xbox One. Very exciting. Adding a cheap "360/P3" adapter will enable the connection of PSone and PS2 controllers (in theory as this does work on the older Cronus Device).

So all the Pinterest accessible options I've posted here are possible on Xbox One too: http://www.pinterest.com/oneswitch/cronus-and-accessibility/


>From a PS4 perspective, there seem to be some problems. It seems that the front-end menu can be controlled by USB connected joypad like devices, but games can't. This is as far as things have got so far on the PS4 to the best of my knowledge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knog9jtwLE. Looks like this may need a system update from Sony, to enable USB connected controllers to work too from my basic understanding.


Fingers crossed both Microsoft and Sony get behind this (or at the very least, don't try to stop it). Without adapters like these, these consoles are just bricks to some people.

Barrie
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From michellehinn at gmail.com  Wed Dec 18 20:52:09 2013
From: michellehinn at gmail.com (Michelle Hinn)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:52:09 -0500
Subject: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility
In-Reply-To: <E3B4E76F634E4C188C4AC3865CD88A80@OneSwitchPC>
References: <E3B4E76F634E4C188C4AC3865CD88A80@OneSwitchPC>
Message-ID: <CA+bf7W7JpL2VQrZ8M0XQV=8jV+yQrHTYfT8P3DivfsN-YEw74w@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for that update Barrie -- very helpful! It would be great if MS and
Sony can keep from implementing something that will negate this -- fingers
crossed!

Michelle


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Thought I'd post a little update on the Xbox One vs. PS4 for physical
> access...
>
> Seems the Xbox One presently has a massive advantage, as the Cronus Max
> team (www.cronusmax.com) have managed to get their cross-controller
> converter working.
>
> It's said that a huge range of PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers (including
> many custom accessible controllers) will now work on the Xbox One. The Max
> Aim App will also allow a Windows PC to connect, enabling speech, JoyToKey
> (for all kinds of things) and the likes of GlovePie (tailor made speech
> commands) to work the Xbox One. Very exciting. Adding a cheap "360/P3"
> adapter will enable the connection of PSone and PS2 controllers (in theory
> as this does work on the older Cronus Device).
>
> So all the Pinterest accessible options I've posted here are possible on
> Xbox One too: http://www.pinterest.com/oneswitch/cronus-and-accessibility/
>
>
> From a PS4 perspective, there seem to be some problems. It seems that the
> front-end menu can be controlled by USB connected joypad like devices, but
> games can't. This is as far as things have got so far on the PS4 to the
> best of my knowledge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knog9jtwLE. Looks
> like this may need a system update from Sony, to enable USB connected
> controllers to work too from my basic understanding.
>
>
> Fingers crossed both Microsoft and Sony get behind this (or at the very
> least, don't try to stop it). Without adapters like these, these consoles
> are just bricks to some people.
>
> Barrie
>
> _______________________________________________
> games_access mailing list
> games_access at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org
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From oneswitch at gmail.com  Thu Dec 19 02:49:31 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:49:31 -0000
Subject: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility
In-Reply-To: <CA+bf7W7JpL2VQrZ8M0XQV=8jV+yQrHTYfT8P3DivfsN-YEw74w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E3B4E76F634E4C188C4AC3865CD88A80@OneSwitchPC>
	<CA+bf7W7JpL2VQrZ8M0XQV=8jV+yQrHTYfT8P3DivfsN-YEw74w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A9E2ADECB11F47DDA326E8F2683155DF@OneSwitchPC>

Cheers, Michelle.

That's definitely hope number one at this time. My second hope for physical accessibility is that Sony/Microsoft and in turn developers don't force motion control (camera based and six-axis type) nor speech commands upon players. Giving players a more traditional alternative method should remove a huge barrier from many otherwise disabled players. If anyone can get the ear of Microsoft and Sony with this plea, I think it would make a huge difference.

Have a great Christmas/Holiday season all,

Barrie






From: Michelle Hinn 
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:52 AM
To: Barrie Ellis ; IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility


Thanks for that update Barrie -- very helpful! It would be great if MS and Sony can keep from implementing something that will negate this -- fingers crossed! 


Michelle



On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:

  Thought I'd post a little update on the Xbox One vs. PS4 for physical access...

  Seems the Xbox One presently has a massive advantage, as the Cronus Max team (www.cronusmax.com) have managed to get their cross-controller converter working.

  It's said that a huge range of PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers (including many custom accessible controllers) will now work on the Xbox One. The Max Aim App will also allow a Windows PC to connect, enabling speech, JoyToKey (for all kinds of things) and the likes of GlovePie (tailor made speech commands) to work the Xbox One. Very exciting. Adding a cheap "360/P3" adapter will enable the connection of PSone and PS2 controllers (in theory as this does work on the older Cronus Device).

  So all the Pinterest accessible options I've posted here are possible on Xbox One too: http://www.pinterest.com/oneswitch/cronus-and-accessibility/


  From a PS4 perspective, there seem to be some problems. It seems that the front-end menu can be controlled by USB connected joypad like devices, but games can't. This is as far as things have got so far on the PS4 to the best of my knowledge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knog9jtwLE. Looks like this may need a system update from Sony, to enable USB connected controllers to work too from my basic understanding.


  Fingers crossed both Microsoft and Sony get behind this (or at the very least, don't try to stop it). Without adapters like these, these consoles are just bricks to some people.

  Barrie

  _______________________________________________
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  games_access at igda.org
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From thomas at pininteractive.com  Thu Dec 19 03:12:56 2013
From: thomas at pininteractive.com (Thomas Westin)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:12:56 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility
In-Reply-To: <A9E2ADECB11F47DDA326E8F2683155DF@OneSwitchPC>
References: <E3B4E76F634E4C188C4AC3865CD88A80@OneSwitchPC>
	<CA+bf7W7JpL2VQrZ8M0XQV=8jV+yQrHTYfT8P3DivfsN-YEw74w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4C9AF202-BE77-41B3-9610-E09A60EB7537@pininteractive.com>

Hi all,

Great to see the progress for the XBO - definitely something for the GDC Alt.Ctrl event! Barrie, could you please contact the Cronus Max team about that?

Happy holidays to you all!

/Thomas

PS. yesterday was 10 years since Terraformers was released, time flies :)

19Dec 2013 kl. 8:49 AM skrev Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com>:

> Cheers, Michelle.
>  
> That's definitely hope number one at this time. My second hope for physical accessibility is that Sony/Microsoft and in turn developers don't force motion control (camera based and six-axis type) nor speech commands upon players. Giving players a more traditional alternative method should remove a huge barrier from many otherwise disabled players. If anyone can get the ear of Microsoft and Sony with this plea, I think it would make a huge difference.
>  
> Have a great Christmas/Holiday season all,
>  
> Barrie
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: Michelle Hinn
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:52 AM
> To: Barrie Ellis ; IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility
> 
> Thanks for that update Barrie -- very helpful! It would be great if MS and Sony can keep from implementing something that will negate this -- fingers crossed!
> 
> Michelle
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thought I'd post a little update on the Xbox One vs. PS4 for physical access...
>  
> Seems the Xbox One presently has a massive advantage, as the Cronus Max team (www.cronusmax.com) have managed to get their cross-controller converter working.
>  
> It's said that a huge range of PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers (including many custom accessible controllers) will now work on the Xbox One. The Max Aim App will also allow a Windows PC to connect, enabling speech, JoyToKey (for all kinds of things) and the likes of GlovePie (tailor made speech commands) to work the Xbox One. Very exciting. Adding a cheap "360/P3" adapter will enable the connection of PSone and PS2 controllers (in theory as this does work on the older Cronus Device).
>  
> So all the Pinterest accessible options I've posted here are possible on Xbox One too: http://www.pinterest.com/oneswitch/cronus-and-accessibility/
>  
>  
> From a PS4 perspective, there seem to be some problems. It seems that the front-end menu can be controlled by USB connected joypad like devices, but games can't. This is as far as things have got so far on the PS4 to the best of my knowledge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knog9jtwLE. Looks like this may need a system update from Sony, to enable USB connected controllers to work too from my basic understanding.
>  
>  
> Fingers crossed both Microsoft and Sony get behind this (or at the very least, don't try to stop it). Without adapters like these, these consoles are just bricks to some people.
>  
> Barrie
> 
> _______________________________________________
> games_access mailing list
> games_access at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> games_access mailing list
> games_access at igda.org
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From sandra_uhling at web.de  Thu Dec 19 12:26:05 2013
From: sandra_uhling at web.de (Sandra Uhling)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:26:05 +0100
Subject: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility
In-Reply-To: <A9E2ADECB11F47DDA326E8F2683155DF@OneSwitchPC>
References: <E3B4E76F634E4C188C4AC3865CD88A80@OneSwitchPC>	<CA+bf7W7JpL2VQrZ8M0XQV=8jV+yQrHTYfT8P3DivfsN-YEw74w@mail.gmail.com>
	<A9E2ADECB11F47DDA326E8F2683155DF@OneSwitchPC>
Message-ID: <00a901cefcdf$669fac50$33df04f0$@de>

Hi Barrie,

what about Steam Machine and SteamOS?

Would be nice to know. J

 

I am wondering what types of accessibility 

The SteamOS have, because it is linux based.

 

Regards,

Sandra

 

Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im
Auftrag von Barrie Ellis
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2013 08:50
An: Michelle Hinn; games_access at igda.org
Betreff: Re: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility

 

Cheers, Michelle.

 

That's definitely hope number one at this time. My second hope for physical
accessibility is that Sony/Microsoft and in turn developers don't force
motion control (camera based and six-axis type) nor speech commands upon
players. Giving players a more traditional alternative method should remove
a huge barrier from many otherwise disabled players. If anyone can get the
ear of Microsoft and Sony with this plea, I think it would make a huge
difference.

 

Have a great Christmas/Holiday season all,

 

Barrie

 

 

 

 

 

From: Michelle Hinn <mailto:michellehinn at gmail.com>  

Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:52 AM

To: Barrie Ellis <mailto:oneswitch at gmail.com>  ; IGDA Games Accessibility
SIG Mailing List <mailto:games_access at igda.org>  

Subject: Re: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility

 

Thanks for that update Barrie -- very helpful! It would be great if MS and
Sony can keep from implementing something that will negate this -- fingers
crossed! 

 

Michelle

 

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:

Thought I'd post a little update on the Xbox One vs. PS4 for physical
access...

 

Seems the Xbox One presently has a massive advantage, as the Cronus Max team
(www.cronusmax.com) have managed to get their cross-controller converter
working.

 

It's said that a huge range of PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers (including many
custom accessible controllers) will now work on the Xbox One. The Max Aim
App will also allow a Windows PC to connect, enabling speech, JoyToKey (for
all kinds of things) and the likes of GlovePie (tailor made speech commands)
to work the Xbox One. Very exciting. Adding a cheap "360/P3" adapter will
enable the connection of PSone and PS2 controllers (in theory as this does
work on the older Cronus Device).

 

So all the Pinterest accessible options I've posted here are possible on
Xbox One too: http://www.pinterest.com/oneswitch/cronus-and-accessibility/

 

 

>From a PS4 perspective, there seem to be some problems. It seems that the
front-end menu can be controlled by USB connected joypad like devices, but
games can't. This is as far as things have got so far on the PS4 to the best
of my knowledge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knog9jtwLE. Looks like this
may need a system update from Sony, to enable USB connected controllers to
work too from my basic understanding.

 

 

Fingers crossed both Microsoft and Sony get behind this (or at the very
least, don't try to stop it). Without adapters like these, these consoles
are just bricks to some people.

 

Barrie


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From oneswitch at gmail.com  Sun Dec 22 15:46:53 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:46:53 -0000
Subject: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility
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I don't honestly know. If I had more time and money I'd test more of these platforms out. Linux seems to be getting more and more traction. GIMX works in Ubuntu as far as I know, which is worth googling. Love the idea of a little Rasberry Pi based controller system, much as seen here: http://switchgaming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/one-switch-driving-games-ps3-and-xbox.html

Barrie


From: Sandra Uhling 
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 5:26 PM
To: 'Barrie Ellis' ; 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List' 
Subject: AW: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility


Hi Barrie,

what about Steam Machine and SteamOS?

Would be nice to know. J

 

I am wondering what types of accessibility 

The SteamOS have, because it is linux based.

 

Regards,

Sandra

 

Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im Auftrag von Barrie Ellis
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2013 08:50
An: Michelle Hinn; games_access at igda.org
Betreff: Re: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility

 

Cheers, Michelle.

 

That's definitely hope number one at this time. My second hope for physical accessibility is that Sony/Microsoft and in turn developers don't force motion control (camera based and six-axis type) nor speech commands upon players. Giving players a more traditional alternative method should remove a huge barrier from many otherwise disabled players. If anyone can get the ear of Microsoft and Sony with this plea, I think it would make a huge difference.

 

Have a great Christmas/Holiday season all,

 

Barrie

 

 

 

 

 

From: Michelle Hinn 

Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:52 AM

To: Barrie Ellis ; IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 

Subject: Re: [games_access] Xbox One vs PS4 for accessibility

 

Thanks for that update Barrie -- very helpful! It would be great if MS and Sony can keep from implementing something that will negate this -- fingers crossed! 

 

Michelle

 

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Barrie Ellis <oneswitch at gmail.com> wrote:

Thought I'd post a little update on the Xbox One vs. PS4 for physical access...

 

Seems the Xbox One presently has a massive advantage, as the Cronus Max team (www.cronusmax.com) have managed to get their cross-controller converter working.

 

It's said that a huge range of PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers (including many custom accessible controllers) will now work on the Xbox One. The Max Aim App will also allow a Windows PC to connect, enabling speech, JoyToKey (for all kinds of things) and the likes of GlovePie (tailor made speech commands) to work the Xbox One. Very exciting. Adding a cheap "360/P3" adapter will enable the connection of PSone and PS2 controllers (in theory as this does work on the older Cronus Device).

 

So all the Pinterest accessible options I've posted here are possible on Xbox One too: http://www.pinterest.com/oneswitch/cronus-and-accessibility/

 

 

>From a PS4 perspective, there seem to be some problems. It seems that the front-end menu can be controlled by USB connected joypad like devices, but games can't. This is as far as things have got so far on the PS4 to the best of my knowledge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knog9jtwLE. Looks like this may need a system update from Sony, to enable USB connected controllers to work too from my basic understanding.

 

 

Fingers crossed both Microsoft and Sony get behind this (or at the very least, don't try to stop it). Without adapters like these, these consoles are just bricks to some people.

 

Barrie


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From oneswitch at gmail.com  Mon Dec 30 12:53:45 2013
From: oneswitch at gmail.com (Barrie Ellis)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:53:45 -0000
Subject: [games_access] Accessible Train Set
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Not video game accessibility, but toy accessibility: http://switchgaming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/neil-young-switch-accessible-train-set.html

Thanks to John Bannick for the tip. Wish more people would think about this kind of thing with toy design.

Barrie
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