From i_h at hotmail.com Wed Mar 2 14:27:54 2016 From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 19:27:54 +0000 Subject: [games_access] Bob De Schutter GDC trailer Message-ID: Nice trailer for his talk on designing for older audiences: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieRBu7n9BoA Ian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 12:35:51 2016 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com (Brandon Keith Biggs) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 09:35:51 -0700 Subject: [games_access] Toyota: Mobility for the Blind/VI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I think applications like this are like home robots. They are in the minds of people, but the technology is not yet there to make them work as advertised. OCR software is just not good enough yet. (There is still a person reading my OCRed books for school). But it is really nice that they are trying to do something. I would really like to see them send orientation and mobility specialists to Russia and China where there are millions of blind people who are not able to walk out of their rooms because they are blind. How could someone improve the effectiveness of an app such as Aipoli using a game? I'm sure all that is needed is just a *** load of immages in the DB. So what kind of game would inspire people to take pictures of stuff and label the images? Perhaps a 3D game where the land is featureless unless people take pictures of stuff and label them, then based off their labels the game will insert them into a location. It could be a game about anything, but just with the idea that people take pictures of stuff and insert them into their world. Another idea is that one could create a contest for people to take as many pictures of an object as possible and tag the picture with other words. So for example, if the challenge was doors, people would take pictures of doggy doors, fairy doors, ant doors... If one had a DB of like 1000000000 pictures that were tagged, companies with apps that identify items like this would really love access! Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Dan Fischbach wrote: > Just saw this and I'm thinking indoor navigation for the blind and VI is > going to get a hell of a lot easier with this and Project Tango: > > http://www.toyota.com/usa/story/effect/index.html > > Of course, game applications are always possible. :-) > > ***This message was sent from my cell phone so it may be more terse than > usual.*** > Dan Fischbach, Net+, MCP > W: danfischbach.com P: 609-458-7920 > Proud NJIT (BS) and UCF/FIEA (MS) graduate > Please consider the environment before printing this email > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blindwolf8 at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 19:49:53 2016 From: blindwolf8 at gmail.com (Dan Fischbach) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 19:49:53 -0400 Subject: [games_access] Toyota: Mobility for the Blind/VI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Brandon, I'm reminded of this: http://m.phys.org/news/2013-08-openglass-apps-visually-impaired-video.html and the way Google Images uses machine learning for tagging. I'm sure Toyota can mimic the Glass project. They've got the money. ***This message was sent from my cell phone so it may be more terse than usual.*** Dan Fischbach, Net+, MCP W: danfischbach.com P: 609-458-7920 Proud NJIT (BS) and UCF/FIEA (MS) graduate Please consider the environment before printing this email On Mar 13, 2016 12:35 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs" wrote: > Hello, > I think applications like this are like home robots. They are in the minds > of people, but the technology is not yet there to make them work as > advertised. OCR software is just not good enough yet. (There is still a > person reading my OCRed books for school). > But it is really nice that they are trying to do something. > I would really like to see them send orientation and mobility specialists > to Russia and China where there are millions of blind people who are not > able to walk out of their rooms because they are blind. > > How could someone improve the effectiveness of an app such as Aipoli using > a game? I'm sure all that is needed is just a *** load of immages in the DB. > So what kind of game would inspire people to take pictures of stuff and > label the images? > > Perhaps a 3D game where the land is featureless unless people take > pictures of stuff and label them, then based off their labels the game will > insert them into a location. It could be a game about anything, but just > with the idea that people take pictures of stuff and insert them into their > world. > > Another idea is that one could create a contest for people to take as many > pictures of an object as possible and tag the picture with other words. So > for example, if the challenge was doors, people would take pictures of > doggy doors, fairy doors, ant doors... > > If one had a DB of like 1000000000 pictures that were tagged, companies > with apps that identify items like this would really love access! > Thanks, > > > Brandon Keith Biggs > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Dan Fischbach > wrote: > >> Just saw this and I'm thinking indoor navigation for the blind and VI is >> going to get a hell of a lot easier with this and Project Tango: >> >> http://www.toyota.com/usa/story/effect/index.html >> >> Of course, game applications are always possible. :-) >> >> ***This message was sent from my cell phone so it may be more terse than >> usual.*** >> Dan Fischbach, Net+, MCP >> W: danfischbach.com P: 609-458-7920 >> Proud NJIT (BS) and UCF/FIEA (MS) graduate >> Please consider the environment before printing this email >> >> _______________________________________________ >> games_access mailing list >> games_access at igda.org >> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access >> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 20:51:05 2016 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com (Brandon Keith Biggs) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:51:05 -0700 Subject: [games_access] Toyota: Mobility for the Blind/VI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, How could someone make a game using this? The problem is that blind people don't use these because they are horrible and not fast enough. I am thinking of something like Eve Online doing protein sorting or Foldit doing protein folding. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Dan Fischbach wrote: > Hi Brandon, > I'm reminded of this: > http://m.phys.org/news/2013-08-openglass-apps-visually-impaired-video.html > and the way Google Images uses machine learning for tagging. I'm sure > Toyota can mimic the Glass project. They've got the money. > > ***This message was sent from my cell phone so it may be more terse than > usual.*** > Dan Fischbach, Net+, MCP > W: danfischbach.com P: 609-458-7920 > Proud NJIT (BS) and UCF/FIEA (MS) graduate > Please consider the environment before printing this email > On Mar 13, 2016 12:35 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs" < > brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello, >> I think applications like this are like home robots. They are in the >> minds of people, but the technology is not yet there to make them work as >> advertised. OCR software is just not good enough yet. (There is still a >> person reading my OCRed books for school). >> But it is really nice that they are trying to do something. >> I would really like to see them send orientation and mobility specialists >> to Russia and China where there are millions of blind people who are not >> able to walk out of their rooms because they are blind. >> >> How could someone improve the effectiveness of an app such as Aipoli >> using a game? I'm sure all that is needed is just a *** load of immages in >> the DB. >> So what kind of game would inspire people to take pictures of stuff and >> label the images? >> >> Perhaps a 3D game where the land is featureless unless people take >> pictures of stuff and label them, then based off their labels the game will >> insert them into a location. It could be a game about anything, but just >> with the idea that people take pictures of stuff and insert them into their >> world. >> >> Another idea is that one could create a contest for people to take as >> many pictures of an object as possible and tag the picture with other >> words. So for example, if the challenge was doors, people would take >> pictures of doggy doors, fairy doors, ant doors... >> >> If one had a DB of like 1000000000 pictures that were tagged, companies >> with apps that identify items like this would really love access! >> Thanks, >> >> >> Brandon Keith Biggs >> >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Dan Fischbach >> wrote: >> >>> Just saw this and I'm thinking indoor navigation for the blind and VI is >>> going to get a hell of a lot easier with this and Project Tango: >>> >>> http://www.toyota.com/usa/story/effect/index.html >>> >>> Of course, game applications are always possible. :-) >>> >>> ***This message was sent from my cell phone so it may be more terse than >>> usual.*** >>> Dan Fischbach, Net+, MCP >>> W: danfischbach.com P: 609-458-7920 >>> Proud NJIT (BS) and UCF/FIEA (MS) graduate >>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> games_access mailing list >>> games_access at igda.org >>> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access >>> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> games_access mailing list >> games_access at igda.org >> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access >> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dan Fischbach, Net+, MCP W: danfischbach.com P: 609-458-7920 Proud NJIT (BS) and UCF/FIEA (MS) graduate Please consider the environment before printing this email ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AFB AccessWorld Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:09 PM Subject: The March Issue of AccessWorld Is Now Available To: BlindWolf8 at gmail.com AFB American Foundation for the Blind TM Expanding possibilities for people with vision loss *The March issue of AccessWorld is now available on our website.* This issue features: - Editor's Page: A Busy Time at *AccessWorld* - Choice Finds from the ATIA 2016 Conference Exhibit Hall, by Jamie Pauls and Shelly Brisbin In this article, we'll share our picks for the 10 most interesting technology products we saw: five blindness-related offerings and five that will interest people with low vision. - AFB Leadership Conference 2016 Highlights, by Janet Ingber The 2016 AFB Leadership Conference was held March 3-5 at the Crystal Gateway Marriott in Arlington, Virginia . The conference included the AccessWorld Technology Summit, sessions for professionals in the blindness and low vision fields, plus an exhibit area. There was a broad selection of concurrent sessions, so it was easy to focus on one's area of interest. - The Orion TI-30XS MultiView Talking Scientific Calculator from Orbit Research and American Printing House for the Blind: Calculating the Value, by Bill Holton The Orion TI-30XS is aimed at upper elementary and middle school students. Likely as not, these students have not yet decided if they might wish to pursue a STEM career. However, having access to the same handheld calculators as their classmates can only help to broaden a sight-impaired student's horizons, options, and opportunities. - An Introduction to the Apple Watch, by Janet Ingber Apple began selling the long-awaited Apple Watch in May 2015. As with other Apple products, the watch is very accessible for VoiceOver users and has some good options for users with low vision. - An Overview of NVDA Remote Access, a Free Add-on for the Non Visual Desktop Access, by Aaron Preece The NVDA Remote Access add-on was very simple to set up and use and the experience of controlling another computer was smooth. There are many possible uses for this add-on and its inclusion in the pool of available NVDA add-ons could significantly increase the usefulness of NVDA. - Repairing or Replacing the Optic Nerve: New Frontiers in Vision Technology Research, by Bill Holton In this article we will describe two recent research breakthroughs?one that shows the potential to help regenerate damaged optic nerves, and the second, a system called Gennaris, that may produce vision without the optic nerve, or even the eye itself. - Audio Game Review: A Blind Legend from DOWiNO and France Culture, by Jamie Pauls A Blind Legend is an audio game for iOS and Android platforms that features an interesting plot, high-quality audio and voice acting, and a well-designed user interface. There are some areas of the game that need work, most notably the awkward translations from French to English. Also, I experienced a few times when I wasn't able to select menu items properly in the game, and was forced to restart before I could continue on. - *AccessWorld* News - Letters to the Editor *AccessWorld*? is the American Foundation for the Blind's technology magazine. Be sure to sign up on the *AccessWorld* home page to receive *AccessWorld* Alerts, an e-mail announcement letting you know when new issues of *AccessWorld* are posted. *Advertising* [image: AFB Press Webinar: iOS in the Classroom: iPad Learning Success for Students with Low Vision, presented by Larry Lewis] *End Advertising* *Unsubscribe Instructions* You are receiving this message because you are an *AccessWorld* reader. If you would like to stop receiving *AccessWorld* alerts, please follow this link to unsubscribe . Remove me immediately from all AFB lists (you will no longer receive any messages from AFB if you click on this link). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 22:50:42 2016 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com (Brandon Keith Biggs) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:50:42 -0700 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers Message-ID: Hello, Here is an article series on how to make your websites and web content accessible to screen readers https://econsultancy.com/blog/67625-making-your-html-accessible-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_source=Econsultancy&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6887384_2188-daily-pulse-uk-2016-03-15&dm_i=LQI,43MC8,LJG5EW,EVGH8,1 It is super important to use HTML to do the headings, paragraphs, buttons, links and everything. I can not tell you how many mainstream websites just forget that CSS is not Hyper Text. (We use an HTML, not a CSML). In order for me to move through a website I either need to press H to move between headings or arrow down through all the links presented above the body. In order for me to read links, they need to have text before the tag. Indigogo is one website I have been after for a long time to make their sharing buttons not blank. The best test I have found is if you can copy and paste your web page and still figure out what is going on, so can i. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chad at anacronist.com Tue Mar 22 23:22:41 2016 From: chad at anacronist.com (Chad Philip Johnson) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:22:41 -0700 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56F20C01.80105@anacronist.com> I'm thinking that a more straightforward test would be to make web pages compatible with Lynx, the text-based web browser. Here is the website: http://lynx.invisible-island.net/ On a sidenote, a while back I spent a couple of weeks attempting to browse the Internet using only Lynx. Unfortunately, so few websites design for this that it wasn't really manageable, so I had to switch back. Chad Philip Johnson Anacronist Software On 03/22/2016 07:50 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: > Hello, > Here is an article series on how to make your websites and web content > accessible to screen readers > https://econsultancy.com/blog/67625-making-your-html-accessible-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_source=Econsultancy&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6887384_2188-daily-pulse-uk-2016-03-15&dm_i=LQI,43MC8,LJG5EW,EVGH8,1 > > It is super important to use HTML to do the headings, paragraphs, > buttons, links and everything. I can not tell you how many mainstream > websites just forget that CSS is not Hyper Text. (We use an HTML, not > a CSML). > In order for me to move through a website I either need to press H to > move between headings or arrow down through all the links presented > above the body. In order for me to read links, they need to have text > before the tag. Indigogo is one website I have been after for a > long time to make their sharing buttons not blank. > The best test I have found is if you can copy and paste your web page > and still figure out what is going on, so can i. > Thanks, > > Brandon Keith Biggs > > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 23:51:04 2016 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com (Brandon Keith Biggs) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:51:04 -0700 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers In-Reply-To: <56F20C01.80105@anacronist.com> References: <56F20C01.80105@anacronist.com> Message-ID: Hello, That browser looks cool, but I try to keep the amount of programs on my computer down. So what works 90% of the time is the copy and paste. Only things that don't show up are the labels of the elements such as link, button, checkbox and whatnot. But those are things my screen reader reads that most people don't see. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Chad Philip Johnson wrote: > I'm thinking that a more straightforward test would be to make web pages > compatible with Lynx, the text-based web browser. > > Here is the website: http://lynx.invisible-island.net/ > > On a sidenote, a while back I spent a couple of weeks attempting to browse > the Internet using only Lynx. Unfortunately, so few websites design for > this that it wasn't really manageable, so I had to switch back. > > Chad Philip Johnson > Anacronist Software > > On 03/22/2016 07:50 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: > > Hello, > Here is an article series on how to make your websites and web content > accessible to screen readers > > https://econsultancy.com/blog/67625-making-your-html-accessible-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_source=Econsultancy&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6887384_2188-daily-pulse-uk-2016-03-15&dm_i=LQI,43MC8,LJG5EW,EVGH8,1 > > It is super important to use HTML to do the headings, paragraphs, buttons, > links and everything. I can not tell you how many mainstream websites just > forget that CSS is not Hyper Text. (We use an HTML, not a CSML). > In order for me to move through a website I either need to press H to move > between headings or arrow down through all the links presented above the > body. In order for me to read links, they need to have text before the > tag. Indigogo is one website I have been after for a long time to make > their sharing buttons not blank. > The best test I have found is if you can copy and paste your web page and > still figure out what is going on, so can i. > Thanks, > > Brandon Keith Biggs > > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing listgames_access at igda.orghttps://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blindwolf8 at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 00:30:17 2016 From: blindwolf8 at gmail.com (Dan Fischbach) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 00:30:17 -0400 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers In-Reply-To: References: <56F20C01.80105@anacronist.com> Message-ID: I did not see this mentioned in the post, but I remember reading somewhere that you should not do bold, italics, or underlines with CSS and should do it with ye olde HTML tags as screen readers actually recognize these and read them differently. Is there any truth to this? ***This message was sent from my cell phone so it may be more terse than usual.*** Dan Fischbach, Net+, MCP W: danfischbach.com P: 609-458-7920 Proud NJIT (BS) and UCF/FIEA (MS) graduate Please consider the environment before printing this email On Mar 22, 2016 11:51 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs" wrote: > Hello, > That browser looks cool, but I try to keep the amount of programs on my > computer down. So what works 90% of the time is the copy and paste. Only > things that don't show up are the labels of the elements such as link, > button, checkbox and whatnot. But those are things my screen reader reads > that most people don't see. > Thanks, > > > Brandon Keith Biggs > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Chad Philip Johnson > wrote: > >> I'm thinking that a more straightforward test would be to make web pages >> compatible with Lynx, the text-based web browser. >> >> Here is the website: http://lynx.invisible-island.net/ >> >> On a sidenote, a while back I spent a couple of weeks attempting to >> browse the Internet using only Lynx. Unfortunately, so few websites design >> for this that it wasn't really manageable, so I had to switch back. >> >> Chad Philip Johnson >> Anacronist Software >> >> On 03/22/2016 07:50 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: >> >> Hello, >> Here is an article series on how to make your websites and web content >> accessible to screen readers >> >> https://econsultancy.com/blog/67625-making-your-html-accessible-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_source=Econsultancy&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6887384_2188-daily-pulse-uk-2016-03-15&dm_i=LQI,43MC8,LJG5EW,EVGH8,1 >> >> It is super important to use HTML to do the headings, paragraphs, >> buttons, links and everything. I can not tell you how many mainstream >> websites just forget that CSS is not Hyper Text. (We use an HTML, not a >> CSML). >> In order for me to move through a website I either need to press H to >> move between headings or arrow down through all the links presented above >> the body. In order for me to read links, they need to have text before the >> tag. Indigogo is one website I have been after for a long time to make >> their sharing buttons not blank. >> The best test I have found is if you can copy and paste your web page and >> still figure out what is going on, so can i. >> Thanks, >> >> Brandon Keith Biggs >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> games_access mailing listgames_access at igda.orghttps://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access >> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> games_access mailing list >> games_access at igda.org >> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access >> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chad at anacronist.com Wed Mar 23 00:21:21 2016 From: chad at anacronist.com (Chad Philip Johnson) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:21:21 -0700 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers In-Reply-To: References: <56F20C01.80105@anacronist.com> Message-ID: <56F219C1.5070805@anacronist.com> Yeah, I can understand how it would be faster in many cases to just copy and paste. That said, I think it would be a worthwhile exercise for people to try browsing the Internet for a day or two using only Lynx. I did it because I was tired of all the unnecessary garbage that is thrown in webpages, and also because it allowed me to stay in the Linux terminal when looking something up on the Internet. For everyday computer users, it would be ideal if all websites supported a text-only mode for providing just the important information contained within a site. But this approach is not very popular since it means turning off advertisements and such--it's hard to sell knick-knacks without a fancy attention-grabbing graphic. Here's an article I just found about Lynx and browser accessibility with a quick Google search: http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/using-lynx-to-test-modern-websites-for-accessibility/31731 Chad Philip Johnson Anacronist Software On 03/22/2016 08:51 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: > Hello, > That browser looks cool, but I try to keep the amount of programs on > my computer down. So what works 90% of the time is the copy and paste. > Only things that don't show up are the labels of the elements such as > link, button, checkbox and whatnot. But those are things my screen > reader reads that most people don't see. > Thanks, > > > Brandon Keith Biggs > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Chad Philip Johnson > > wrote: > > I'm thinking that a more straightforward test would be to make web > pages compatible with Lynx, the text-based web browser. > > Here is the website: http://lynx.invisible-island.net/ > > On a sidenote, a while back I spent a couple of weeks attempting > to browse the Internet using only Lynx. Unfortunately, so few > websites design for this that it wasn't really manageable, so I > had to switch back. > > Chad Philip Johnson > Anacronist Software > > On 03/22/2016 07:50 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: >> Hello, >> Here is an article series on how to make your websites and web >> content accessible to screen readers >> https://econsultancy.com/blog/67625-making-your-html-accessible-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_source=Econsultancy&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6887384_2188-daily-pulse-uk-2016-03-15&dm_i=LQI,43MC8,LJG5EW,EVGH8,1 >> >> It is super important to use HTML to do the headings, paragraphs, >> buttons, links and everything. I can not tell you how many >> mainstream websites just forget that CSS is not Hyper Text. (We >> use an HTML, not a CSML). >> In order for me to move through a website I either need to press >> H to move between headings or arrow down through all the links >> presented above the body. In order for me to read links, they >> need to have text before the tag. Indigogo is one website I >> have been after for a long time to make their sharing buttons not >> blank. >> The best test I have found is if you can copy and paste your web >> page and still figure out what is going on, so can i. >> Thanks, >> >> Brandon Keith Biggs >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> games_access mailing list >> games_access at igda.org >> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access >> The main SIG website page ishttp://igda-gasig.org > > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 00:46:24 2016 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com (Brandon Keith Biggs) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:46:24 -0700 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers In-Reply-To: References: <56F20C01.80105@anacronist.com> Message-ID: Hello, I placed this in the of my document: It did not show up as bold on my screen reader. But frankly, I don't hardly ever have the feature on my screen reader to say bold on. It is just annoying and not useful. Labeling is way more important. But if you can do it in HTML, do it. Otherwise, do it in CSS and Javascript. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:30 PM, Dan Fischbach wrote: > I did not see this mentioned in the post, but I remember reading somewhere > that you should not do bold, italics, or underlines with CSS and should do > it with ye olde HTML tags as screen readers actually recognize these and > read them differently. Is there any truth to this? > > ***This message was sent from my cell phone so it may be more terse than > usual.*** > Dan Fischbach, Net+, MCP > W: danfischbach.com P: 609-458-7920 > Proud NJIT (BS) and UCF/FIEA (MS) graduate > Please consider the environment before printing this email > On Mar 22, 2016 11:51 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs" < > brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello, >> That browser looks cool, but I try to keep the amount of programs on my >> computer down. So what works 90% of the time is the copy and paste. Only >> things that don't show up are the labels of the elements such as link, >> button, checkbox and whatnot. But those are things my screen reader reads >> that most people don't see. >> Thanks, >> >> >> Brandon Keith Biggs >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Chad Philip Johnson > > wrote: >> >>> I'm thinking that a more straightforward test would be to make web pages >>> compatible with Lynx, the text-based web browser. >>> >>> Here is the website: http://lynx.invisible-island.net/ >>> >>> On a sidenote, a while back I spent a couple of weeks attempting to >>> browse the Internet using only Lynx. Unfortunately, so few websites design >>> for this that it wasn't really manageable, so I had to switch back. >>> >>> Chad Philip Johnson >>> Anacronist Software >>> >>> On 03/22/2016 07:50 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> Here is an article series on how to make your websites and web content >>> accessible to screen readers >>> >>> https://econsultancy.com/blog/67625-making-your-html-accessible-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_source=Econsultancy&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6887384_2188-daily-pulse-uk-2016-03-15&dm_i=LQI,43MC8,LJG5EW,EVGH8,1 >>> >>> It is super important to use HTML to do the headings, paragraphs, >>> buttons, links and everything. I can not tell you how many mainstream >>> websites just forget that CSS is not Hyper Text. (We use an HTML, not a >>> CSML). >>> In order for me to move through a website I either need to press H to >>> move between headings or arrow down through all the links presented above >>> the body. In order for me to read links, they need to have text before the >>> tag. Indigogo is one website I have been after for a long time to make >>> their sharing buttons not blank. >>> The best test I have found is if you can copy and paste your web page >>> and still figure out what is going on, so can i. >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Brandon Keith Biggs >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> games_access mailing listgames_access at igda.orghttps://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access >>> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> games_access mailing list >>> games_access at igda.org >>> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access >>> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> games_access mailing list >> games_access at igda.org >> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access >> The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From i_h at hotmail.com Wed Mar 23 02:56:59 2016 From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:56:59 +0000 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers In-Reply-To: References: , <56F20C01.80105@anacronist.com>, Message-ID: There are dedicated web accessibility automated testing tools, such as Wave and Tenon. There isn't anything that can pick up all issues, for example no automated tool has the ability to know whether or not a piece of link text makes sense out of content (although they pick up commonly problematic links such as 'read more' and 'click here'), no way to know whether an alt attribute actually describes the image or not, no way of knowing whether a tab order is logical and so on, so you still need to do manual checking too. Ideally it should be a combination of designing to guidelines, both manual and automated checking, and including people with a range of impairments in your testing. But even if all someone does is a quick pass with Wave, that'll still mean more accessibility issues fixed than no checking at all. Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:51:04 -0700 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com To: games_access at igda.org Subject: Re: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers Hello, That browser looks cool, but I try to keep the amount of programs on my computer down. So what works 90% of the time is the copy and paste. Only things that don't show up are the labels of the elements such as link, button, checkbox and whatnot. But those are things my screen reader reads that most people don't see. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Chad Philip Johnson wrote: I'm thinking that a more straightforward test would be to make web pages compatible with Lynx, the text-based web browser. Here is the website: http://lynx.invisible-island.net/ On a sidenote, a while back I spent a couple of weeks attempting to browse the Internet using only Lynx. Unfortunately, so few websites design for this that it wasn't really manageable, so I had to switch back. Chad Philip Johnson Anacronist Software On 03/22/2016 07:50 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: Hello, Here is an article series on how to make your websites and web content accessible to screen readers https://econsultancy.com/blog/67625-making-your-html-accessible-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_source=Econsultancy&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6887384_2188-daily-pulse-uk-2016-03-15&dm_i=LQI,43MC8,LJG5EW,EVGH8,1 It is super important to use HTML to do the headings, paragraphs, buttons, links and everything. I can not tell you how many mainstream websites just forget that CSS is not Hyper Text. (We use an HTML, not a CSML). In order for me to move through a website I either need to press H to move between headings or arrow down through all the links presented above the body. In order for me to read links, they need to have text before the tag. Indigogo is one website I have been after for a long time to make their sharing buttons not blank. The best test I have found is if you can copy and paste your web page and still figure out what is going on, so can i. 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URL: From sandra_uhling at web.de Wed Mar 23 03:09:01 2016 From: sandra_uhling at web.de (Sandra Uhling) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:09:01 +0100 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andreas.lopez93 at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 08:02:37 2016 From: andreas.lopez93 at gmail.com (Andreas Lopez) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:02:37 -0400 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers Message-ID: I am just glad that the websites I built and am building as Webmaster are pretty much 99% accessible with the exception of Social Icons, due to 3rd party integration. I had my wife check one of our company sites out: www.jnequipment.com And she said that everything is pretty straight forward, I guess also because we have on our products when there is too much text in the short description to say something like 'click here to learn more' instead of just 'read more'. And in all honesty we did do nothing special, only the common SEO stuff which ironically also optimizes a lot for Screen Readers. Because Search Engines prefer to have headers to actually be as

and what not instead of just giving them a special span or paragraph styling. That way the search engines can also easier identify how a page is built, read the template and determine whether it makes sense or not. So I find it in all honesty a bit shocking that so many websites are inaccessible with screen readers. A lot of that I would put fault on modern trends though. Like having all sort of parallax effects and double layers like background images for blurbs instead of simple contrasted background. Pop-Ups don't help either. And Slideshows are the worst anyhow, but luckily they get out of trend because User Research has shown that nobody likes slideshows at all and almost nobody ever clicks on them. Sincerely, Andreas Lopez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 13:32:28 2016 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com (Brandon Keith Biggs) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:32:28 -0700 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, That website is OK, it is a little messy and like you said, the sharing buttons are not accessible. (BTW, where do you get the sharing buttons from?) But I think you would still benefit from a copy and paste. For example, what is "sssssssss"? Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Andreas Lopez wrote: > I am just glad that the websites I built and am building as Webmaster are > pretty much 99% accessible with the exception of Social Icons, due to 3rd > party integration. I had my wife check one of our company sites out: > www.jnequipment.com > > And she said that everything is pretty straight forward, I guess also > because we have on our products when there is too much text in the short > description to say something like 'click here to learn more' instead of > just 'read more'. And in all honesty we did do nothing special, only the > common SEO stuff which ironically also optimizes a lot for Screen Readers. > > Because Search Engines prefer to have headers to actually be as

and > what not instead of just giving them a special span or paragraph styling. > That way the search engines can also easier identify how a page is built, > read the template and determine whether it makes sense or not. So I find it > in all honesty a bit shocking that so many websites are inaccessible with > screen readers. > > A lot of that I would put fault on modern trends though. Like having all > sort of parallax effects and double layers like background images for > blurbs instead of simple contrasted background. Pop-Ups don't help either. > And Slideshows are the worst anyhow, but luckily they get out of trend > because User Research has shown that nobody likes slideshows at all and > almost nobody ever clicks on them. > > Sincerely, > > Andreas Lopez > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas at westin.nu Fri Mar 25 04:34:35 2016 From: thomas at westin.nu (Thomas Westin) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:34:35 +0100 Subject: [games_access] Google is helping developers make more accessible apps Message-ID: <92796C79-1B2F-445E-AF28-4A1FE413F3A7@westin.nu> nice tool http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/24/google-accessibility-scanner-app/ Download information for Engadget at http://www.engadget.com/apps/ Kind regards, Thomas (Sent from my mobile) From thomas at westin.nu Fri Mar 25 04:35:15 2016 From: thomas at westin.nu (Thomas Westin) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:35:15 +0100 Subject: [games_access] Google is helping developers make more accessible apps Message-ID: nice tool http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/24/google-accessibility-scanner-app/ Download information for Engadget at http://www.engadget.com/apps/ Kind regards, Thomas (Sent from my mobile) From andreas.lopez93 at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 09:55:53 2016 From: andreas.lopez93 at gmail.com (Andreas Lopez) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:55:53 -0400 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers Message-ID: Hey Brandon, It does not appear messy at all for my wife, then again she navigates via Jaws mostly through the 'all links menu' dialog or whatever it's actually called, sometimes the tabbing. So I can only say what she told me on that matter, really. I am not sure what you mean with the "ssssss" nor the copy-paste, or where that would be coming from, my wife found nothing similar? As for the icons, they are built-in with the Divi Theme in the header, most of the time they are just a special font-set for Wordpress that people create, so that they are more responsive instead of using individual images, as far as I know. And I did not check on the sidebar buttons which are the share buttons, I think my wife was referring to the ones in the header which actually would lead to our facebook, twitter and google plus page respectively so the users can follow & like us. Sincerely, Andreas Lopez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 11:24:27 2016 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com (Brandon Keith Biggs) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:24:27 -0700 Subject: [games_access] Making Websites and Web Content Marked for Proper Accessibility especially for screen readers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, What I mean by copy and paste is just that, select the page, then paste it into a txt file. Here is your website copied and pasted: 561-964-3228 sales at jnequipment.com J.N. Equipment SuperStore Select Page a click addeviceid=fbdb3d515a794?imp addeviceid=fbdb3d515a794c4? www.resellerratings.com Shop Comet5 4 5 12345678910 JNEquipment 203 customer reviews is rated Awesome! Wonderful Service! Great Selection! Prev resellerratings.com link Next 3/25/2016 | by Answers graco-free-accessories-coupon-? Titan-Better-Off-Red Apollo HVLP Annovi Reverberi BE Pressure Binks DeVilbiss CAT Pumps C.A. Technologies Comet Pumps GP Graco Honda Engines Mi-T-M Pressure Pro Stealth Steel Eagle Titan Whisper Wash Featured Products Sale! 244194-graco-pump-packing-kit T 244194 ? Graco Pump Packing Repair Kit for 390, 395-595, 490, Ultra 395/495/595 SSSSSSSSSS 5 out of 5 $69.50 $48.00 DCFSCP20GZ-gp-hammerhead-surface-cleaner T General Pump Hammerhead 20 SSSSSSSSSS 5 out of 5 $339.99 LTX517-B5-PKG Graco 5 Tips and Housing T LTX517-B5-PKG ? Graco RAC X Reversible Airless Switch Tips AND Tip Housings (Bulk 5-Pack) SSSSSSSSSS 5 out of 5 $99.95 ZWD4040G-SUB4-comet-pum This is what your website looks like to me, exactly, but the html element type is announced before every line. Every person navigates websites differently, but the point is just make sure everything is readable and in HTML. Second, realize that we read vertically and we really read everything. So any junk like: SSSSSSSSSS Is something we see. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Andreas Lopez wrote: > Hey Brandon, > > It does not appear messy at all for my wife, then again she navigates via > Jaws mostly through the 'all links menu' dialog or whatever it's actually > called, sometimes the tabbing. So I can only say what she told me on that > matter, really. > > I am not sure what you mean with the "ssssss" nor the copy-paste, or where > that would be coming from, my wife found nothing similar? > > As for the icons, they are built-in with the Divi Theme in the header, > most of the time they are just a special font-set for Wordpress that people > create, so that they are more responsive instead of using individual > images, as far as I know. > > And I did not check on the sidebar buttons which are the share buttons, I > think my wife was referring to the ones in the header which actually would > lead to our facebook, twitter and google plus page respectively so the > users can follow & like us. > > Sincerely, > > Andreas Lopez > > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yiyiliu at cmail.carleton.ca Tue Mar 29 18:22:14 2016 From: yiyiliu at cmail.carleton.ca (Yiyi Rose Liu) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:22:14 -0400 Subject: [games_access] How to recruit participants for a study Message-ID: Hello, I'm a graduate student working on a study relating to game accessibility. I require participants with mobility impairments, but am having trouble with recruitment. I was wondering how other researchers typically go about recruiting participants, and thought I'd come to this listserv for advice. Thanks in advance! Yiyi Rose Liu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From i_h at hotmail.com Tue Mar 29 23:01:00 2016 From: i_h at hotmail.com (Ian Hamilton) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:01:00 +0100 Subject: [games_access] How to recruit participants for a study In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You're looking for people to take part in person, right? Normally I just get my participants through market research companies, there are a couple of good ones over here in the UK that I've never had any trouble people from even really specific recruitment profiles through. But that's always with a client all paying the costs, I'm assuming that as it's a grad student project you don't have the luxury of a budget for that kind of thing? So paid recruitment aside... the big national organisations aren't much help, they're very protective over the people they represent, but local disability organisations / groups / meetups can be really good. A few examples - http://www.canadian-universities.net/Volunteer/Disabled-Ontario-Ottawa.html Also be prepared to go to people's homes, you'll get far better results there than you will in a lab, and save yourself all kinds of hassle of trying to replicate assistive tech setups. And allow a good extra 50% on top of the time you would normally set aside for similar sessions with other audiences. Hope that helps! Ian Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:22:14 -0400 From: yiyiliu at cmail.carleton.ca To: games_access at igda.org Subject: [games_access] How to recruit participants for a study Hello, I'm a graduate student working on a study relating to game accessibility. I require participants with mobility impairments, but am having trouble with recruitment. I was wondering how other researchers typically go about recruiting participants, and thought I'd come to this listserv for advice. Thanks in advance!Yiyi Rose Liu _______________________________________________ games_access mailing list games_access at igda.org https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Harvey Owen User Researcher Player Research > On 31 Mar 2016, at 15:46, Ian Hamilton wrote: > > Nice little bit on accessibility in a VR game: > > http://www.triangularpixels.net/cms/development/vr-games-for-all-designing-unseen-diplomacy-for-disabled-users/ > > Ian > _______________________________________________ > games_access mailing list > games_access at igda.org > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > The main SIG website page is http://igda-gasig.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: