[MacLoggerContest] Contest entry screen specification
    David Ferrington, M0XDF 
    M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk
       
    Sun Jan 25 06:54:10 EST 2009
    
    
  
Scott, not sure where you remember the 2E0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk from,  
but it only got here because I have a catch all address at present.  
Could you please use the address this mail comes from, so I don't miss  
any. No problem, just I changed my address when I got my full license.  
Oh and I'd better figure where I didn't do that.
1. I know and use
2. Yes I know that too
3. That I didn't know, you'll note I said that I knew about, but  
having only been a ham since 2003 and not doing taken part in those  
yet, I didn't know that.
I agree with the last and have only mailed the list this time, so you  
(and I) don't keep getting too mails. This is exactly what I've been  
trying to do for the last few weeks.
Unfortunately, it started on the other list (this one hadn't seen any  
mail for a year I believe) and tick'd Don off no end that people were  
leaving because of all the contest related mails. For that I apologise.
Lets do have a discussion here. I suggest everyone who wants to join  
in, at least download and try the beta version - it's free (with 10  
min time-out) and you can at least see what Scott and Don have come  
up. Sorry to those that aren’t running 10.5, it's not going to work on  
anything lower.
People can comment and discuss it. It's unlikely that Don will  
introduce new fields, although there was a suggestion in a previous  
post he might introduce 1 or 2 (see note at bottom).
What we're asking people to do is comment on the layout and tab order  
of the Contest panel.
Note on the Recv/Sent fields:
My understanding from Scott is that this field can contain multiple  
values when used with a contest requiring more than just RST/Serial/ 
Locator/plusone and CabConverter will pick out the required bits. I'd  
ask people to consider if that is easy to use and fulfils the bill for  
those (I guess few) contests that require 5+ exchanges. I goes against  
my relational nature to multi-value a column, but if that's the  
easiest way...
73 de M0XDF
-- 
Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice;  
nothing
is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity.
-Lord Acton, historian (1834-1902)
On 25 Jan 2009, at 01:32, B. Scott Andersen wrote:
> David,
>
> I'll start this without all the indents.
>
> 1. Super check partial
> This is just a text file containing call signs of known contesters.
> It does not involve contact with the outside world at all. That's
> why it is OK. The SCP is already implemented in the current
> MLDX. This is part of the contest helper panel.
>
> 2. The RST thing is obviously contest-dependent.
> I can only speak to the typical HF contests. The RST is a blind
> 59 or 5NN for most everything below 30 MHz. I can't speak
> to whether this is a good thing or a bad thing; I can tell you
> only that it seems well entrenched.
>
> 3. Every contest has at least a serial number?
> Here are some that do not:
> * CQ WW (both Phone and CW) ==> RS(T) + CQ Zone 5905 or 5NN05
> * ARRL 10m ==> RS(T) and state/province (DX sends S/N)
> * North American QSO party ==> Name + S/P/C (note RS(T) not required!)
> * New England QSO party ==> RS(T) + S/P, DX sends "DX"
> ... just to name a few.
> This isn't to say that support of serial numbers isn't important.
> Of course it is! But, there are a fair number of contests, including
> CQ WW DX -- the biggest contest of them all -- that do not.
>
> Again, with only a fixed contest frame in MLDX everything will be
> a compromise. That said, I'm sure that sufficient thought could
> better the attempt that I have made. If we are to try, then I would
> recommend that we have the discussion here on this MLDX contest
> list, engage its members, and come up with something that the
> group can get behind. Once we have consensus we can approach
> Don and ask if he would consider the proposal.
>
> What we should avoid, of course, is to have multiple, contradictory,
> competing proposals all land on Don's desk. I dare say that would
> get us nowhere. Or so it seems to me...
>
> -- Scott (NE1RD)
>
>>
>
> B. Scott Andersen           | "Magic is real, unless declared  
> integer."
> bsandersen -atsign- mac.com | -- The collected sayings of Wiz Zumwalt
> Acton, MA (NE1RD)           | http://www.bsandersen.com
>
>
>
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