[IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Flash Mobile? (was user ping request)

Thu Mar 16 07:14:22 EST 2006

I do understand what you are saying, but since I work on a "Need to be
Profitable" developer house I do have to able to achieve results...

Java is the way for now, very few Mobiles support Flash and Operators WANT
Java, BREW, etc...

It's true that there is lot of effort on the side of Programmers in Java,
but so does exist in other Gaming/console environments, and IMHO if you put
a programmer managing the game development for sure artists will have no
control over the production, but the game manager could be a graphic artis
with programming skills or a real game designer and then you have a
balancing between both.. code and graphics...

Tiago Carita

-----Original Message-----
From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Matt Benic
Sent: quinta-feira, 16 de Março de 2006 11:53
To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Flash Mobile? (was user ping request)

To be honest I'm not that excited about 3D on mobiles.. I have one or two
ideas I'd like to implement, but what originally attracted me to mobile was
the accessibility of it by small dev teams. I think 3D is going to lock out
a lot of devs. I also don't think that 2D is necessary for many things. Ok,
fine, I'll admit it, I like 2D because it reminds me of the stuff I used to
play ;)

Seriously though, I feel like the balance of codeing:art in mobile dev is
just too heavy on the code side with Java, and after seeing how rapidly a
decent game could be set up in flash and how much control the artist can be
give I like the idea of using it for mobile dev. And no, I'm not an artist
;)

Matt

5DT
Fifth Dimension Technologies
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-----Original Message-----
From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Tiago Carita
Sent: 16 March 2006 01:25 PM
To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Flash Mobile? (was user ping request)

I'm a Mobile developer... don't get too excited, flash has a higher overhead
than Java and games are already slow in Java (you have to try to work around
this problem, and its only 1, there are several).

What I'm looking forward to see is the 3D Hardware working on the
handsets... and some standardization of the technology, there is already
shaders for mobile :-)

Lets see what they will release in  GDC this here...

Tiago Carita

-----Original Message-----
From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Matt Benic
Sent: quinta-feira, 16 de Março de 2006 10:13
To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List'
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Flash Mobile? (was user ping request)

This was done in answer to a request to see what sort of numbers we have on
the list..

What I'd like to know is, with so many people subscribed, why are we not
seeing more discussion?

If no-one minds me starting one, I'd like to know if anyone has tried flash
mobile, and what you think of it. I'm really excited about the idea of it (I
think it could be far better than J2ME/BREW for 2D stuff)..

Matt

5DT
Fifth Dimension Technologies
Matt Benic
Tel. +27 (0)12 349 2690
Fax. +27 (0)12 349 1404
matt.benic at 5dt.com
www.5DT.com

-----Original Message-----
From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Ville Miettinen
Sent: 16 March 2006 11:38 AM
To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Re: Mobile_Games Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5

Please guys.. I know that the traffic has been low, but it doesn't benefit
any of us if everyone artificially generates "me too" messages. Sheesh.

cheers,
-wili

-- 
 o Ville Miettinen
 o Chief Technology Officer
 o Hybrid Graphics Ltd.
 o Mobile +358-40-5913775
 o http://www.hybrid.fi
 o http://www.flickr.com/photos/wili/

On 3/16/06 6:28 PM, "Paul Farley" <paul.farley at iplay.com> wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I've been watching you all very closely...  (!)
> 
> Paul Farley
> Senior Designer
> I-play
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
> On Behalf Of Nicolai Finke
> Sent: 16 March 2006 09:17
> To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Re: Mobile_Games Digest, Vol 13, Issue
5
> 
> I'm following as well.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org
> [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Janne Ahonen
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:52 AM
> To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Re: Mobile_Games Digest, Vol 13,
> Issue 5
> 
> bong ;D
> 
> --
> 
> Janne Ahonen
> Producer
> Rovio Mobile Ltd.
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org
> [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
> On Behalf Of William Volk
> Sent: 16. maaliskuuta 2006 8:31
> To: Mobile Game Dev SIG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Re: Mobile_Games Digest, Vol 13,
> Issue 5
> 
> Hello!
> 
> 
> William Volk
> CEO, Bonus Mobile Entertainment
> 858 692 1124
> 
>> From: Matt Benic <matt.benic at 5dt.com>
>> Organization: 5dt
>> Reply-To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
> <mobile_games at igda.org>
>> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:59:41 +0200
>> To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List' <mobile_games at igda.org>
>> Subject: RE: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Re: Mobile_Games Digest, Vol 13,
> Issue
> 5
>> 
>> Ping ;)
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 5DT
>> Fifth Dimension Technologies
>> Matt Benic
>> Tel. +27 (0)12 349 2690
>> Fax. +27 (0)12 349 1404
>> matt.benic at 5dt.com
>> www.5DT.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org
> [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
>> On Behalf Of Michael Charland
>> Sent: 16 March 2006 05:50 AM
>> To: mobile_games at igda.org
>> Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Re: Mobile_Games Digest, Vol 13,
> Issue
> 5
>> 
>> Quickly everybody replied so we can get a total number of subscribers.
>> 
>> ----Original Message Follows----
>> From: Gert-Jan Brok <mglist at fantazm.com>
>> Reply-To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
> <mobile_games at igda.org>
>> To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List <mobile_games at igda.org>
>> Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Re: Mobile_Games Digest, Vol 13,
> Issue
> 5
>> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:32:44 +0100
>> 
>> Is has been quit indeed. The casual gaming list has some more life.
> It's
> not
>> 
>> aimed at mobile content creators, but it may prove to be useful to
> you.
>> 
>> Gert-Jan
>> 
>> Alex wrote:
>>> I've seen very little traffic in this list, in the last weeks it has
> only
>>> been this kind of stupid "out-of-the-office" autoresponders.
>>> How many suscribers are here?
>>> Is there any other list with more audience ?
>>> 
>>> Alex.
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