From jorgegs at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 16:21:19 2007 From: jorgegs at gmail.com (Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:21:19 -0300 Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Video Streaming? Message-ID: Hi there. Jorge from Argentina with a question here. A very nice project was thrown onto us, which is some sort of ?mobile soap opera? thing, where the user takes decisions at the end of each clip, taking the story in different directions each time. While not strictly a game, it sure requires some coding to make it work. This project is for the mexican market, where the handsets are not totally top notch (s40v2 is still doing great), so that is kind of a problem. 3G, which would make this project quite trivial, is nowhere to be seen. So far, we have seen there are two alternatives: Downloading: downloading each "movisode" at a time. Some phones will lack the disk space and some others will even refuse to download files to the phone?s main file system, which is a problem Streaming: won?t run on a great deal of handsets, or do so, but with a sickening framerate. Considering it will be running mainly in Telcel, this is pretty much a worst case scenario. Does anyone know of a solution, commercial or not, to this problem? We?ve been asked to solve this preferably from within an application with a nice GUI, so that the user will never see the strings that run the show, and thus break the fantasy. Thanks, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez Blue River S.A. - TEL. +54 (11) 4857-9340 - MOV. +54 (911) 6167-5412 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamunoz at unkasoft.com Sat Aug 4 17:52:35 2007 From: jamunoz at unkasoft.com (Juan Antonio) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:52:35 +0200 Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Video Streaming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46B4F523.9030608@unkasoft.com> Hi, I was in Mexico last month, and Mexican market has not good data rates yet. So, I understand your concern, you have a great goal to face. My advice is to use the second option. I know other companies in Mexico using this 'streaming' option with good results. And I dont like the first one, download each "movisode" at a time will give you headache. Good luck Juan Antonio Mu?oz-Gallego Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote: > Hi there. Jorge from Argentina with a question here. > > A very nice project was thrown onto us, which is some sort of ?mobile > soap opera? thing, where the user takes decisions at the end of each > clip, taking the story in different directions each time. > > While not strictly a game, it sure requires some coding to make it > work. This project is for the mexican market, where the handsets are > not totally top notch (s40v2 is still doing great), so that is kind of > a problem. 3G, which would make this project quite trivial, is nowhere > to be seen. > > So far, we have seen there are two alternatives: > > Downloading: downloading each "movisode" at a time. Some phones will > lack the disk space and some others will even refuse to download files > to the phone?s main file system, which is a problem > > Streaming: won?t run on a great deal of handsets, or do so, but with a > sickening framerate. Considering it will be running mainly in Telcel, > this is pretty much a worst case scenario. > > Does anyone know of a solution, commercial or not, to this problem? > We?ve been asked to solve this preferably from within an application > with a nice GUI, so that the user will never see the strings that run > the show, and thus break the fantasy. > > Thanks, > > Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez > Blue River S.A. - TEL. +54 (11) 4857-9340 - MOV. +54 (911) 6167-5412 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile_Games mailing list > Mobile_Games at igda.org > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games > From bvolk at mynumo.com Sun Aug 5 01:44:56 2007 From: bvolk at mynumo.com (William Volk) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:44:56 -0700 Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Video Streaming? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jorge, This could be implemented as a J2ME app that displays a ?multimedia? presentation of audio and images. If I was producing a Series 40 app, that?s what I would do. William Volk CEO, MyNuMo 858 692 1124 Create It, Show It, SELL IT! http://www.mynumo.com From: Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez Reply-To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:21:19 -0300 To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Video Streaming? Hi there. Jorge from Argentina with a question here. A very nice project was thrown onto us, which is some sort of ?mobile soap opera? thing, where the user takes decisions at the end of each clip, taking the story in different directions each time. While not strictly a game, it sure requires some coding to make it work. This project is for the mexican market, where the handsets are not totally top notch (s40v2 is still doing great), so that is kind of a problem. 3G, which would make this project quite trivial, is nowhere to be seen. So far, we have seen there are two alternatives: Downloading: downloading each "movisode" at a time. Some phones will lack the disk space and some others will even refuse to download files to the phone?s main file system, which is a problem Streaming: won?t run on a great deal of handsets, or do so, but with a sickening framerate. Considering it will be running mainly in Telcel, this is pretty much a worst case scenario. Does anyone know of a solution, commercial or not, to this problem? We?ve been asked to solve this preferably from within an application with a nice GUI, so that the user will never see the strings that run the show, and thus break the fantasy. Thanks, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez Blue River S.A. - TEL. +54 (11) 4857-9340 - MOV. +54 (911) 6167-5412 _______________________________________________ Mobile_Games mailing list Mobile_Games at igda.org http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jorgegs at gmail.com Sun Aug 5 04:11:50 2007 From: jorgegs at gmail.com (Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 05:11:50 -0300 Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Video Streaming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi William, Yes, so far that's what we'll present. Some sort of crude slideshow, which displays a number of JPGs per second, while a completely unrelated (though synchronized) audio file runs on the background, bringing it all -somewhat- to life. It's funny/sad some phones don't even like audio streams. It's so 1992!. Thanks for the reply. Jorge. On 8/5/07, William Volk wrote: > > Jorge, > > This could be implemented as a J2ME app that displays a "multimedia" > presentation of audio and images. > > If I was producing a Series 40 app, that's what I would do. > > William Volk > CEO, MyNuMo > 858 692 1124 > Create It, Show It, SELL IT! > http://www.mynumo.com > ------------------------------ > *From: *Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez > *Reply-To: *Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List < > mobile_games at igda.org> > *Date: *Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:21:19 -0300 > *To: *Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List > *Subject: *[IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Video Streaming? > > Hi there. Jorge from Argentina with a question here. > > A very nice project was thrown onto us, which is some sort of ¨mobile > soap opera¨ thing, where the user takes decisions at the end of each > clip, taking the story in different directions each time. > > While not strictly a game, it sure requires some coding to make it work. > This project is for the mexican market, where the handsets are not totally > top notch (s40v2 is still doing great), so that is kind of a problem. 3G, > which would make this project quite trivial, is nowhere to be seen. > > So far, we have seen there are two alternatives: > > Downloading: downloading each "movisode" at a time. Some phones will lack > the disk space and some others will even refuse to download files to the > phone?s main file system, which is a problem > > Streaming: won?t run on a great deal of handsets, or do so, but with a > sickening framerate. Considering it will be running mainly in Telcel, this > is pretty much a worst case scenario. > > Does anyone know of a solution, commercial or not, to this problem? We?ve > been asked to solve this preferably from within an application with a nice > GUI, so that the user will never see the strings that run the show, and thus > break the fantasy. > > Thanks, > > Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez > Blue River S.A. - TEL. +54 (11) 4857-9340 - MOV. +54 (911) 6167-5412 > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Mobile_Games mailing list > Mobile_Games at igda.org > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile_Games mailing list > Mobile_Games at igda.org > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games > > -- Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez Blue River S.A. - TEL. +54 (11) 4857-9340 - MOV. +54 (911) 6167-5412 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burak at burak.com Sun Aug 5 19:10:59 2007 From: burak at burak.com (Burak Bayburtlu) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 02:10:59 +0300 Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Video Streaming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4f8af94a0708051610x2830fc1fl1b50356cbd9c7385@mail.gmail.com> Hello Jorge, If I were you, I would start with kyte.tv's mobile client, written in J2ME, displaying full motion video with buffering. It works pretty good on my Nokia N93 over WiFi. I know, it might sound like a mobile-monster in case of available RAM and data speeds but I think you can try it on a low end S40 handset and see if they've made it or not. Cheers, -- Burak Bayburtlu Populer Teknoloji - http://www.burak.com/ On 8/5/07, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote: > > Hi William, > > Yes, so far that's what we'll present. Some sort of crude slideshow, which > displays a number of JPGs per second, while a completely unrelated (though > synchronized) audio file runs on the background, bringing it all -somewhat- > to life. It's funny/sad some phones don't even like audio streams. It's so > 1992!. > > Thanks for the reply. > > Jorge. > > On 8/5/07, William Volk wrote: > > > > Jorge, > > > > This could be implemented as a J2ME app that displays a "multimedia" > > presentation of audio and images. > > > > If I was producing a Series 40 app, that's what I would do. > > > > William Volk > > CEO, MyNuMo > > 858 692 1124 > > Create It, Show It, SELL IT! > > http://www.mynumo.com > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez > > *Reply-To: *Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List < > > mobile_games at igda.org> > > *Date: *Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:21:19 -0300 > > *To: *Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List > > *Subject: *[IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Video Streaming? > > > > Hi there. Jorge from Argentina with a question here. > > > > A very nice project was thrown onto us, which is some sort of > > ¨mobile soap opera¨ thing, where the user takes decisions at the > > end of each clip, taking the story in different directions each time. > > > > While not strictly a game, it sure requires some coding to make it work. > > This project is for the mexican market, where the handsets are not totally > > top notch (s40v2 is still doing great), so that is kind of a problem. 3G, > > which would make this project quite trivial, is nowhere to be seen. > > > > So far, we have seen there are two alternatives: > > > > Downloading: downloading each "movisode" at a time. Some phones will > > lack the disk space and some others will even refuse to download files to > > the phone?s main file system, which is a problem > > > > Streaming: won?t run on a great deal of handsets, or do so, but with a > > sickening framerate. Considering it will be running mainly in Telcel, this > > is pretty much a worst case scenario. > > > > Does anyone know of a solution, commercial or not, to this problem? > > We?ve been asked to solve this preferably from within an application with a > > nice GUI, so that the user will never see the strings that run the show, and > > thus break the fantasy. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez > > Blue River S.A. - TEL. +54 (11) 4857-9340 - MOV. +54 (911) 6167-5412 > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mobile_Games mailing list > > Mobile_Games at igda.org > > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mobile_Games mailing list > > Mobile_Games at igda.org > > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games > > > > > > > -- > Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez > Blue River S.A. - TEL. +54 (11) 4857-9340 - MOV. +54 (911) 6167-5412 > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile_Games mailing list > Mobile_Games at igda.org > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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