From civax at mobilegd.com  Mon Aug 11 04:29:27 2008
From: civax at mobilegd.com (Ohad Barzilay)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:29:27 +0300
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
In-Reply-To: <20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>
	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>
Message-ID: <01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>

Hi Jason,

Well, I know *I'm* here.
And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
	
Ohad.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
To: mobile_games at igda.org
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge

Hi,

Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted some 
contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it 
worthwhile to share here:


*******************************************
This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top 
three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production 
contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further 
development of their concepts!

Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a 
concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation

Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
*******************************************

Regards,
	Jason

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jason Della Rocca
Executive Director
International Game Developers Association

direct: +1-514-426-1162
main: +1-856-423-2990
fax: +1-514-426-1201
jason at igda.org

Montreal, Canada
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.igda.org/
http://www.realitypanic.com/

"Do or do not. There is no try."
- Yoda

_______________________________________________
Mobile_Games mailing list
Mobile_Games at igda.org
http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games

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From dangame at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 09:14:58 2008
From: dangame at gmail.com (Dan Roy)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:14:58 -0400
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
In-Reply-To: <01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>
	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>
	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>
Message-ID: <94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>

I'm still on the list, too.

Dan

2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com>:
> Hi Jason,
>
> Well, I know *I'm* here.
> And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
>
> Ohad.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> To: mobile_games at igda.org
> Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
>
> Hi,
>
> Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted some
> contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> worthwhile to share here:
>
>
> *******************************************
> This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> development of their concepts!
>
> Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
>
> Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> *******************************************
>
> Regards,
>        Jason
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jason Della Rocca
> Executive Director
> International Game Developers Association
>
> direct: +1-514-426-1162
> main: +1-856-423-2990
> fax: +1-514-426-1201
> jason at igda.org
>
> Montreal, Canada
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> http://www.igda.org/
> http://www.realitypanic.com/
>
> "Do or do not. There is no try."
> - Yoda
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 22/07/2008
> 06:00
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>

From jorgegs at blueriversa.com  Mon Aug 11 14:18:32 2008
From: jorgegs at blueriversa.com (Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:18:32 -0300
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
In-Reply-To: <94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>
	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>
	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>
	<94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6a4a4c80808111118wc6f74e6p267ee0b7b28318db@mail.gmail.com>

I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.

N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great if it
weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its in a tight spot.

Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends. Look at a
Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d graphics, yeah. Real 3d
game, no. Just my oppinion.




On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <dangame at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm still on the list, too.
>
> Dan
>
> 2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com>:
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > Well, I know *I'm* here.
> > And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
> >
> > Ohad.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org]
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> > To: mobile_games at igda.org
> > Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted some
> > contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> > worthwhile to share here:
> >
> >
> > *******************************************
> > This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> > three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> > contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> > development of their concepts!
> >
> > Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> > concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> > http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
> >
> > Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> > *******************************************
> >
> > Regards,
> >        Jason
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Jason Della Rocca
> > Executive Director
> > International Game Developers Association
> >
> > direct: +1-514-426-1162
> > main: +1-856-423-2990
> > fax: +1-514-426-1201
> > jason at igda.org
> >
> > Montreal, Canada
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > http://www.igda.org/
> > http://www.realitypanic.com/
> >
> > "Do or do not. There is no try."
> > - Yoda
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mobile_Games mailing list
> > Mobile_Games at igda.org
> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date:
> 22/07/2008
> > 06:00
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mobile_Games mailing list
> > Mobile_Games at igda.org
> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>



-- 
Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez
Blue River S.A.

WEB: www.blueriversa.com
TEL: +54 (11) 4857-9340
MOV: +54 (911) 6167-5412
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From bvolk at mynumo.com  Mon Aug 11 14:28:51 2008
From: bvolk at mynumo.com (William Volk)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:28:51 -0700
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
In-Reply-To: <e6a4a4c80808111118wc6f74e6p267ee0b7b28318db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>
	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>
	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>
	<94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<e6a4a4c80808111118wc6f74e6p267ee0b7b28318db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <83DB00B5-FC10-44C4-B28A-09C0BFC8655B@mynumo.com>

The iPhone's app store is the real deal.  Apple reports 60m downloads,  
$30m in sales ... all in one month.

Check out our 1st title, REMELODY.

William Volk
CEO, MyNuMo
858 692 1124
The Social Entertainment Company
http://www.mynumo.com

On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:

> I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.
>
> N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great if  
> it weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its in a  
> tight spot.
>
> Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends.  
> Look at a Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d  
> graphics, yeah. Real 3d game, no. Just my oppinion.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <dangame at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm still on the list, too.
>
> Dan
>
> 2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com>:
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > Well, I know *I'm* here.
> > And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
> >
> > Ohad.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org]
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> > To: mobile_games at igda.org
> > Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted  
> some
> > contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> > worthwhile to share here:
> >
> >
> > *******************************************
> > This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> > three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> > contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> > development of their concepts!
> >
> > Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> > concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> > http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
> >
> > Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> > *******************************************
> >
> > Regards,
> >        Jason
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Jason Della Rocca
> > Executive Director
> > International Game Developers Association
> >
> > direct: +1-514-426-1162
> > main: +1-856-423-2990
> > fax: +1-514-426-1201
> > jason at igda.org
> >
> > Montreal, Canada
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > http://www.igda.org/
> > http://www.realitypanic.com/
> >
> > "Do or do not. There is no try."
> > - Yoda
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mobile_Games mailing list
> > Mobile_Games at igda.org
> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date:  
> 22/07/2008
> > 06:00
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mobile_Games mailing list
> > Mobile_Games at igda.org
> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
>
>
> -- 
> Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez
> Blue River S.A.
>
> WEB: www.blueriversa.com
> TEL: +54 (11) 4857-9340
> MOV: +54 (911) 6167-5412
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games

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From rsantos at escs.ipl.pt  Mon Aug 11 17:40:58 2008
From: rsantos at escs.ipl.pt (RSantos)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:40:58 +0100
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
In-Reply-To: <83DB00B5-FC10-44C4-B28A-09C0BFC8655B@mynumo.com>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>	<94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>	<e6a4a4c80808111118wc6f74e6p267ee0b7b28318db@mail.gmail.com>
	<83DB00B5-FC10-44C4-B28A-09C0BFC8655B@mynumo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c8fbfa$f2358a50$d6a09ef0$@ipl.pt>

I?m also still in business, and working on mobile games.

Mobiles can do 3D graphics, OpenGL ES 2.0 it?s almost here, the question is
: Are mobile users interested on better graphics on their mobiles ? Or are
we developers going again by the way phone manufactures guide us ?

 

Ricardo Flores

Web and Mobile Developer

HYPERLINK
"http://www.biodroid-entertainment.com"www.biodroid-entertainment.com

HYPERLINK
"mailto:rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com"rflores at biodroid-entertainment.co
m

 

 

From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of William Volk
Sent: segunda-feira, 11 de Agosto de 2008 19:29
To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge

 

The iPhone's app store is the real deal.  Apple reports 60m downloads, $30m
in sales ... all in one month.

 

Check out our 1st title, REMELODY.

 

William Volk

CEO, MyNuMo

858 692 1124

The Social Entertainment Company

HYPERLINK "http://www.mynumo.com"http://www.mynumo.com

 

On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:





I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.

N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great if it
weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its in a tight spot.

Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends. Look at a
Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d graphics, yeah. Real 3d
game, no. Just my oppinion.





On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <HYPERLINK
"mailto:dangame at gmail.com"dangame at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm still on the list, too.

Dan

2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <HYPERLINK
"mailto:civax at mobilegd.com"civax at mobilegd.com>:

> Hi Jason,
>
> Well, I know *I'm* here.
> And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
>
> Ohad.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:HYPERLINK
"mailto:jason at igda.org"jason at igda.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> To: HYPERLINK "mailto:mobile_games at igda.org"mobile_games at igda.org
> Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
>
> Hi,
>
> Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted some
> contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> worthwhile to share here:
>
>
> *******************************************
> This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> development of their concepts!
>
> Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> HYPERLINK "http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation"
\nhttp://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
>
> Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> *******************************************
>
> Regards,
>        Jason
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jason Della Rocca
> Executive Director
> International Game Developers Association
>
> direct: +1-514-426-1162
> main: +1-856-423-2990
> fax: +1-514-426-1201
> HYPERLINK "mailto:jason at igda.org"jason at igda.org
>
> Montreal, Canada
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> HYPERLINK "http://www.igda.org/" \nhttp://www.igda.org/
> HYPERLINK "http://www.realitypanic.com/" \nhttp://www.realitypanic.com/
>
> "Do or do not. There is no try."
> - Yoda
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> HYPERLINK "mailto:Mobile_Games at igda.org"Mobile_Games at igda.org
> HYPERLINK "http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games"
\nhttp://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - HYPERLINK "http://www.avg.com" \nhttp://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 22/07/2008
> 06:00
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> HYPERLINK "mailto:Mobile_Games at igda.org"Mobile_Games at igda.org
> HYPERLINK "http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games"
\nhttp://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
_______________________________________________
Mobile_Games mailing list
HYPERLINK "mailto:Mobile_Games at igda.org"Mobile_Games at igda.org
HYPERLINK "http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games"
\nhttp://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games




-- 
Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez
Blue River S.A.

WEB: HYPERLINK "http://www.blueriversa.com"www.blueriversa.com
TEL: +54 (11) 4857-9340
MOV: +54 (911) 6167-5412

_______________________________________________
Mobile_Games mailing list
HYPERLINK "mailto:Mobile_Games at igda.org"Mobile_Games at igda.org
http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games

 

 

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From jorgegs at blueriversa.com  Mon Aug 11 21:42:12 2008
From: jorgegs at blueriversa.com (Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:42:12 -0300
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
In-Reply-To: <000c01c8fbfa$f2358a50$d6a09ef0$@ipl.pt>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>
	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>
	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>
	<94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<e6a4a4c80808111118wc6f74e6p267ee0b7b28318db@mail.gmail.com>
	<83DB00B5-FC10-44C4-B28A-09C0BFC8655B@mynumo.com>
	<000c01c8fbfa$f2358a50$d6a09ef0$@ipl.pt>
Message-ID: <e6a4a4c80808111842q11353471t14dc586597acd0d0@mail.gmail.com>

Good to hear people is still listening to this thing. We're also still
working on mobile, but we're sort of an impasse due to the mobile market
turmoil... namely, iphone + sales being mysteriously low for a just-released
game (we released an unlicensed summer games themed game)

Our guess is that it's time to think out of the box for a while. And it's
damn scary.



2008/8/11 RSantos <rsantos at escs.ipl.pt>

>  I'm also still in business, and working on mobile games.
>
> Mobiles can do 3D graphics, OpenGL ES 2.0 it's almost here, the question is
> : Are mobile users interested on better graphics on their mobiles ? Or are
> we developers going again by the way phone manufactures guide us ?
>
>
>
> Ricardo Flores
>
> Web and Mobile Developer
>
> www.biodroid-entertainment.com
>
> rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:
> mobile_games-bounces at igda.org] *On Behalf Of *William Volk
> *Sent:* segunda-feira, 11 de Agosto de 2008 19:29
> *To:* Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
>
>
>
> The iPhone's app store is the real deal.  Apple reports 60m downloads, $30m
> in sales ... all in one month.
>
>
>
> Check out our 1st title, REMELODY.
>
>
>
> William Volk
>
> CEO, MyNuMo
>
> 858 692 1124
>
> The Social Entertainment Company
>
> http://www.mynumo.com
>
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:
>
>
>
>  I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.
>
> N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great if it
> weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its in a tight spot.
>
> Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends. Look at a
> Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d graphics, yeah. Real 3d
> game, no. Just my oppinion.
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <dangame at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm still on the list, too.
>
> Dan
>
> 2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com>:
>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > Well, I know *I'm* here.
> > And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
> >
> > Ohad.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org]
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> > To: mobile_games at igda.org
> > Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted some
> > contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> > worthwhile to share here:
> >
> >
> > *******************************************
> > This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> > three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> > contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> > development of their concepts!
> >
> > Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> > concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> > http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
> >
> > Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> > *******************************************
> >
> > Regards,
> >        Jason
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Jason Della Rocca
> > Executive Director
> > International Game Developers Association
> >
> > direct: +1-514-426-1162
> > main: +1-856-423-2990
> > fax: +1-514-426-1201
> > jason at igda.org
> >
> > Montreal, Canada
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > http://www.igda.org/
> > http://www.realitypanic.com/
> >
> > "Do or do not. There is no try."
> > - Yoda
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mobile_Games mailing list
> > Mobile_Games at igda.org
> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
> >
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> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mobile_Games mailing list
> > Mobile_Games at igda.org
> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez
> Blue River S.A.
>
> WEB: www.blueriversa.com
> TEL: +54 (11) 4857-9340
> MOV: +54 (911) 6167-5412
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
>
>
>
>
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>


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From bvolk at mynumo.com  Mon Aug 11 22:02:53 2008
From: bvolk at mynumo.com (William Volk)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:02:53 -0700
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
In-Reply-To: <e6a4a4c80808111842q11353471t14dc586597acd0d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>
	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>
	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>
	<94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <ED870477-1957-4AFE-8464-9365ADEEAB91@mynumo.com>

Here's some numbers to chew on.

60m downloads, probabily 6m paid, $30m in revenue, therefore average  
price of $5.

Sega Super Monkey Ball generated $3m in gross revenue  from 300k sales  
at $9.99 a pop.  That means that this title represented 10% of overall  
sales revenue or 5% of unit sales.

Our title, Remelody, had feature placement for six days we are still  
waiting for the sales figures from the 1st two weeks of sales, I  
suspect that is when the bulk of sales occured.  It will be  
interesting to see.

It may be that the Greystripe Ad Model makes sense for some titles.

Next will be our branded (Kenny Rogers, The Gambler) casino games.   
More excitement no doubt.

William Volk
CEO, MyNuMo
858 692 1124
The Social Entertainment Company
http://www.mynumo.com

On Aug 11, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:

> Good to hear people is still listening to this thing. We're also  
> still working on mobile, but we're sort of an impasse due to the  
> mobile market turmoil... namely, iphone + sales being mysteriously  
> low for a just-released game (we released an unlicensed summer games  
> themed game)
>
> Our guess is that it's time to think out of the box for a while. And  
> it's damn scary.
>
>
>
> 2008/8/11 RSantos <rsantos at escs.ipl.pt>
> I'm also still in business, and working on mobile games.
>
> Mobiles can do 3D graphics, OpenGL ES 2.0 it's almost here, the  
> question is : Are mobile users interested on better graphics on  
> their mobiles ? Or are we developers going again by the way phone  
> manufactures guide us ?
>
>
> Ricardo Flores
>
> Web and Mobile Developer
>
> www.biodroid-entertainment.com
>
> rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com
>
>
>
> From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org 
> ] On Behalf Of William Volk
> Sent: segunda-feira, 11 de Agosto de 2008 19:29
> To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
>
>
> The iPhone's app store is the real deal.  Apple reports 60m  
> downloads, $30m in sales ... all in one month.
>
>
> Check out our 1st title, REMELODY.
>
>
> William Volk
>
> CEO, MyNuMo
>
> 858 692 1124
>
> The Social Entertainment Company
>
> http://www.mynumo.com
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.
>
> N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great if  
> it weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its in a  
> tight spot.
>
> Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends.  
> Look at a Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d  
> graphics, yeah. Real 3d game, no. Just my oppinion.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <dangame at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm still on the list, too.
>
> Dan
>
> 2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com>:
>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > Well, I know *I'm* here.
> > And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
> >
> > Ohad.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org]
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> > To: mobile_games at igda.org
> > Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted  
> some
> > contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> > worthwhile to share here:
> >
> >
> > *******************************************
> > This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> > three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> > contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> > development of their concepts!
> >
> > Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> > concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> > http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
> >
> > Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> > *******************************************
> >
> > Regards,
> >        Jason
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Jason Della Rocca
> > Executive Director
> > International Game Developers Association
> >
> > direct: +1-514-426-1162
> > main: +1-856-423-2990
> > fax: +1-514-426-1201
> > jason at igda.org
> >
> > Montreal, Canada
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > http://www.igda.org/
> > http://www.realitypanic.com/
> >
> > "Do or do not. There is no try."
> > - Yoda
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mobile_Games mailing list
> > Mobile_Games at igda.org
> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date:  
> 22/07/2008
> > 06:00
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mobile_Games mailing list
> > Mobile_Games at igda.org
> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez
> Blue River S.A.
>
> WEB: www.blueriversa.com
> TEL: +54 (11) 4857-9340
> MOV: +54 (911) 6167-5412
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1603 - Release Date:  
> 10-08-2008 18:13
>
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1603 - Release Date:  
> 10-08-2008 18:13
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez
> Blue River S.A.
>
> WEB: www.blueriversa.com
> TEL: +54 (11) 4857-9340
> MOV: +54 (911) 6167-5412
> _______________________________________________
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> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games

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From civax at mobilegd.com  Tue Aug 12 02:56:09 2008
From: civax at mobilegd.com (Ohad Barzilay)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:56:09 +0300
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
In-Reply-To: <ED870477-1957-4AFE-8464-9365ADEEAB91@mynumo.com>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>	<94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>	<e6a4a4c80808111118wc6f74e6p267ee0b7b28318db@mail.gmail.com>	<83DB00B5-FC10-44C4-B28A-09C0BFC8655B@mynumo.com>	<000c01c8fbfa$f2358a50$d6a09ef0$@ipl.pt>	<e6a4a4c80808111842q11353471t14dc586597acd0d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<ED870477-1957-4AFE-8464-9365ADEEAB91@mynumo.com>
Message-ID: <02a801c8fc48$80a39c30$81ead490$@com>

iPhone's AppStore is indeed doing well, yet it's still left to see how this
can affect the sales of games other then the big publishers. We already have
one game on the store and for now we're quite noticeable, but I'm not sure
how things will be as more apps joining. It will probably get even more
interesting once more apps will become available and we might find ourselves
in the same problem we had on operators' catalogs, getting noticed within
all the other games around.

 

I haven't seen figures yet on the Greystripe supported games. Anyone has a
clue how well are they doing? How many games out with it and how much did
they actually make to the developers?

 

 

 

From: William Volk [mailto:bvolk at mynumo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:03 AM
To: Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez; Mobile Game Dev SIG Mailing List
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market

 

Here's some numbers to chew on.

 

60m downloads, probabily 6m paid, $30m in revenue, therefore average price
of $5.

 

Sega Super Monkey Ball generated $3m in gross revenue  from 300k sales at
$9.99 a pop.  That means that this title represented 10% of overall sales
revenue or 5% of unit sales.

 

Our title, Remelody, had feature placement for six days we are still waiting
for the sales figures from the 1st two weeks of sales, I suspect that is
when the bulk of sales occured.  It will be interesting to see.

 

It may be that the Greystripe Ad Model makes sense for some titles.

 

Next will be our branded (Kenny Rogers, The Gambler) casino games.  More
excitement no doubt.

 

William Volk

CEO, MyNuMo

858 692 1124

The Social Entertainment Company

http://www.mynumo.com

 

On Aug 11, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:





Good to hear people is still listening to this thing. We're also still
working on mobile, but we're sort of an impasse due to the mobile market
turmoil... namely, iphone + sales being mysteriously low for a just-released
game (we released an unlicensed summer games themed game)

Our guess is that it's time to think out of the box for a while. And it's
damn scary.




2008/8/11 RSantos <rsantos at escs.ipl.pt>

I'm also still in business, and working on mobile games.

Mobiles can do 3D graphics, OpenGL ES 2.0 it's almost here, the question is
: Are mobile users interested on better graphics on their mobiles ? Or are
we developers going again by the way phone manufactures guide us ?

 

Ricardo Flores

Web and Mobile Developer

 <http://www.biodroid-entertainment.com> www.biodroid-entertainment.com

 <mailto:rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com>
rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com

 

 

From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of William Volk
Sent: segunda-feira, 11 de Agosto de 2008 19:29
To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge

 

The iPhone's app store is the real deal.  Apple reports 60m downloads, $30m
in sales ... all in one month.

 

Check out our 1st title, REMELODY.

 

William Volk

CEO, MyNuMo

858 692 1124

The Social Entertainment Company

http://www.mynumo.com

 

On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:

 

I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.

N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great if it
weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its in a tight spot.

Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends. Look at a
Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d graphics, yeah. Real 3d
game, no. Just my oppinion.




On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <dangame at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm still on the list, too.

Dan

2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com>:

> Hi Jason,
>
> Well, I know *I'm* here.
> And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
>
> Ohad.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> To: mobile_games at igda.org
> Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
>
> Hi,
>
> Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted some
> contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> worthwhile to share here:
>
>
> *******************************************
> This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> development of their concepts!
>
> Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
>
> Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> *******************************************
>
> Regards,
>        Jason
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jason Della Rocca
> Executive Director
> International Game Developers Association
>
> direct: +1-514-426-1162
> main: +1-856-423-2990
> fax: +1-514-426-1201
> jason at igda.org
>
> Montreal, Canada
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> http://www.igda.org/
> http://www.realitypanic.com/
>
> "Do or do not. There is no try."
> - Yoda
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 22/07/2008
> 06:00
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mobile_Games mailing list
> Mobile_Games at igda.org
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games
>
_______________________________________________
Mobile_Games mailing list
Mobile_Games at igda.org
http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games




-- 
Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez
Blue River S.A.

WEB: www.blueriversa.com
TEL: +54 (11) 4857-9340
MOV: +54 (911) 6167-5412

_______________________________________________
Mobile_Games mailing list
Mobile_Games at igda.org
http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games

 

 

No virus found in this incoming message.

Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1603 - Release Date: 10-08-2008
18:13

 

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Checked by AVG.
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18:13


_______________________________________________
Mobile_Games mailing list
Mobile_Games at igda.org
http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games




-- 
Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez
Blue River S.A.

WEB: www.blueriversa.com
TEL: +54 (11) 4857-9340
MOV: +54 (911) 6167-5412

_______________________________________________
Mobile_Games mailing list
Mobile_Games at igda.org
http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mobile_games

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
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From havchr at tumbleweedinteractive.com  Tue Aug 12 03:05:33 2008
From: havchr at tumbleweedinteractive.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard_Christensen?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:05:33 +0200
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
In-Reply-To: <e6a4a4c80808111842q11353471t14dc586597acd0d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>	<94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>	<e6a4a4c80808111118wc6f74e6p267ee0b7b28318db@mail.gmail.com>	<83DB00B5-FC10-44C4-B28A-09C0BFC8655B@mynumo.com>	<000c01c8fbfa$f2358a50$d6a09ef0$@ipl.pt>
	<e6a4a4c80808111842q11353471t14dc586597acd0d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48A1363D.3080300@tumbleweedinteractive.com>

I'm also still here. I'm currently working on some groundwork on our ES 
2.0-renderer. Our company might look into iphone in the future.
-H?vard Christensen-
lead ES2 rendering programmer at Tumbleweed Interactive
www.tumbleweedinteractive.com

Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez skrev:
> Good to hear people is still listening to this thing. We're also still 
> working on mobile, but we're sort of an impasse due to the mobile 
> market turmoil... namely, iphone + sales being mysteriously low for a 
> just-released game (we released an unlicensed summer games themed game)
>
> Our guess is that it's time to think out of the box for a while. And 
> it's damn scary.
>
>
>
> 2008/8/11 RSantos <rsantos at escs.ipl.pt <mailto:rsantos at escs.ipl.pt>>
>
>     I'm also still in business, and working on mobile games.
>
>     Mobiles can do 3D graphics, OpenGL ES 2.0 it's almost here, the
>     question is : Are mobile users interested on better graphics on
>     their mobiles ? Or are we developers going again by the way phone
>     manufactures guide us ?
>
>      
>
>     Ricardo Flores
>
>     Web and Mobile Developer
>
>     www.biodroid-entertainment.com <http://www.biodroid-entertainment.com>
>
>     rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com
>     <mailto:rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com>
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     *From:* mobile_games-bounces at igda.org
>     <mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org>
>     [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org
>     <mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org>] *On Behalf Of *William Volk
>     *Sent:* segunda-feira, 11 de Agosto de 2008 19:29
>     *To:* Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
>     *Subject:* Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation
>     Challenge
>
>      
>
>     The iPhone's app store is the real deal.  Apple reports 60m
>     downloads, $30m in sales ... all in one month.
>
>      
>
>     Check out our 1st title, REMELODY.
>
>      
>
>     William Volk
>
>     CEO, MyNuMo
>
>     858 692 1124
>
>     The Social Entertainment Company
>
>     http://www.mynumo.com
>
>      
>
>     On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:
>
>
>
>     I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.
>
>     N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great
>     if it weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its
>     in a tight spot.
>
>     Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends.
>     Look at a Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d
>     graphics, yeah. Real 3d game, no. Just my oppinion.
>
>
>
>     On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <dangame at gmail.com
>     <mailto:dangame at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm still on the list, too.
>
>     Dan
>
>     2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com
>     <mailto:civax at mobilegd.com>>:
>
>     > Hi Jason,
>     >
>     > Well, I know *I'm* here.
>     > And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
>     >
>     > Ohad.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org
>     <mailto:jason at igda.org>]
>     > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
>     > To: mobile_games at igda.org <mailto:mobile_games at igda.org>
>     > Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
>     >
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted
>     some
>     > contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
>     > worthwhile to share here:
>     >
>     >
>     > *******************************************
>     > This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
>     > three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
>     > contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
>     > development of their concepts!
>     >
>     > Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
>     > concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
>     > http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
>     >
>     > Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
>     > *******************************************
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     >        Jason
>     >
>     > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>     > Jason Della Rocca
>     > Executive Director
>     > International Game Developers Association
>     >
>     > direct: +1-514-426-1162
>     > main: +1-856-423-2990
>     > fax: +1-514-426-1201
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>     >
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From christopher.kassulke at handy-games.com  Tue Aug 12 03:14:17 2008
From: christopher.kassulke at handy-games.com (Christopher Kassulke)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:14:17 +0200
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
Message-ID: <3F1CE5C538C7B54BA0385C2DB73D00A28725D4@hgdc1.hgw>

Hi Ohad,

 

the Greystripe model is "fair" - you make revenues on it. Revenues are
coming in regular when your games have a high replay value. But not
enough to feed a whole company so its ok for garage developers or young
developer studios who want to check out the market. HandyGames was one
of the first publisher who supported Greystripe not only cause of
revenues also for checking out which game the market really want. The
operators filter normally games and on greystripe every game gets the
same visibility and the consumer is choosing. The performance from some
titles are totally different from the ones that are live at the operator
decks. 

 

Cheers,

Christopher

 

Christopher Kassulke 
CEO 
HandyGames 
  
www.handy-games.com <BLOCKED::http://www.handy-games.com/>  GmbH 



Von: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org
[mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org] Im Auftrag von Ohad Barzilay
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. August 2008 08:56
An: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List'
Betreff: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market

 

iPhone's AppStore is indeed doing well, yet it's still left to see how
this can affect the sales of games other then the big publishers. We
already have one game on the store and for now we're quite noticeable,
but I'm not sure how things will be as more apps joining. It will
probably get even more interesting once more apps will become available
and we might find ourselves in the same problem we had on operators'
catalogs, getting noticed within all the other games around.

 

I haven't seen figures yet on the Greystripe supported games. Anyone has
a clue how well are they doing? How many games out with it and how much
did they actually make to the developers?

 

 

 

From: William Volk [mailto:bvolk at mynumo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:03 AM
To: Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez; Mobile Game Dev SIG Mailing List
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market

 

Here's some numbers to chew on.

 

60m downloads, probabily 6m paid, $30m in revenue, therefore average
price of $5.

 

Sega Super Monkey Ball generated $3m in gross revenue  from 300k sales
at $9.99 a pop.  That means that this title represented 10% of overall
sales revenue or 5% of unit sales.

 

Our title, Remelody, had feature placement for six days we are still
waiting for the sales figures from the 1st two weeks of sales, I suspect
that is when the bulk of sales occured.  It will be interesting to see.

 

It may be that the Greystripe Ad Model makes sense for some titles.

 

Next will be our branded (Kenny Rogers, The Gambler) casino games.  More
excitement no doubt.

 

William Volk

CEO, MyNuMo

858 692 1124

The Social Entertainment Company

http://www.mynumo.com

 

On Aug 11, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:

 

Good to hear people is still listening to this thing. We're also still
working on mobile, but we're sort of an impasse due to the mobile market
turmoil... namely, iphone + sales being mysteriously low for a
just-released game (we released an unlicensed summer games themed game)

Our guess is that it's time to think out of the box for a while. And
it's damn scary.



2008/8/11 RSantos <rsantos at escs.ipl.pt>

I'm also still in business, and working on mobile games.

Mobiles can do 3D graphics, OpenGL ES 2.0 it's almost here, the question
is : Are mobile users interested on better graphics on their mobiles ?
Or are we developers going again by the way phone manufactures guide us
?

 

Ricardo Flores

Web and Mobile Developer

www.biodroid-entertainment.com <http://www.biodroid-entertainment.com> 

rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com
<mailto:rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com> 

 

 

From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org
[mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of William Volk
Sent: segunda-feira, 11 de Agosto de 2008 19:29
To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge

 

The iPhone's app store is the real deal.  Apple reports 60m downloads,
$30m in sales ... all in one month.

 

Check out our 1st title, REMELODY.

 

William Volk

CEO, MyNuMo

858 692 1124

The Social Entertainment Company

http://www.mynumo.com

 

On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:

 

I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.

N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great if it
weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its in a tight
spot.

Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends. Look at
a Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d graphics, yeah.
Real 3d game, no. Just my oppinion.



On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <dangame at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm still on the list, too.

Dan

2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com>:

> Hi Jason,
>
> Well, I know *I'm* here.
> And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
>
> Ohad.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> To: mobile_games at igda.org
> Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
>
> Hi,
>
> Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted some
> contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> worthwhile to share here:
>
>
> *******************************************
> This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> development of their concepts!
>
> Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
>
> Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> *******************************************
>
> Regards,
>        Jason
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jason Della Rocca
> Executive Director
> International Game Developers Association
>
> direct: +1-514-426-1162
> main: +1-856-423-2990
> fax: +1-514-426-1201
> jason at igda.org
>
> Montreal, Canada
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> http://www.igda.org/
> http://www.realitypanic.com/
>
> "Do or do not. There is no try."
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TEL: +54 (11) 4857-9340
MOV: +54 (911) 6167-5412

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From mike_ch_1 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 12 08:06:04 2008
From: mike_ch_1 at hotmail.com (mike_ch_1 at hotmail.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:06:04 +0000
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
In-Reply-To: <02a801c8fc48$80a39c30$81ead490$@com>
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Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV924455B90FBAB04BBF90FFF700@phx.gbl>

Isn't it quite strange that they did 30 million in sales and there are roughly 7 million iphones. So that means that on average each and every iphone owner spent just over 4 dollars. That seems absurdly high to me. Or am I missing something here?

Thx

Michael
Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless handheld

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ohad Barzilay" <civax at mobilegd.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:56:09 
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Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market


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From diogo.neves at gmail.com  Tue Aug 12 08:22:48 2008
From: diogo.neves at gmail.com (Diogo Neves)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:22:48 +0100
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-DAV924455B90FBAB04BBF90FFF700@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>	<94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>	<e6a4a4c80808111118wc6f74e6p267ee0b7b28318db@mail.gmail.com>	<83DB00B5-FC10-44C4-B28A-09C0BFC8655B@mynumo.com>	<000c01c8fbfa$f2358a50$d6a09ef0$@ipl.pt>	<e6a4a4c80808111842q11353471t14dc586597acd0d0@mail.gmail.com><ED870477-1957-4AFE-8464-9365ADEEAB91@mynumo.com><02a801c8fc48$80a39c30$81ead490$@com>
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Message-ID: <48A18098.40004@gmail.com>

I think that this is natural, it's the Apple hype talking. Probably 
we'll only get true values in one month.

Diogo Neves

mike_ch_1 at hotmail.com wrote:
> Isn't it quite strange that they did 30 million in sales and there are roughly 7 million iphones. So that means that on average each and every iphone owner spent just over 4 dollars. That seems absurdly high to me. Or am I missing something here?
>
> Thx
>
> Michael
> Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless handheld
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Ohad Barzilay" <civax at mobilegd.com>
>
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:56:09 
> To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List'<mobile_games at igda.org>
> Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
>
>
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From jon at jonpeddie.com  Tue Aug 12 09:35:18 2008
From: jon at jonpeddie.com (Jon Peddie)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:35:18 -0700
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
In-Reply-To: <000c01c8fbfa$f2358a50$d6a09ef0$@ipl.pt>
References: <mailman.447.1173339336.3356.mobile_games@igda.org>	<20080725051722.58D04AE4D@mailwash7.pair.com>	<01b801c8fb8c$5fc1aaa0$1f44ffe0$@com>	<94dda5340808110614y14a54c73he3b0f8571516a2f2@mail.gmail.com>	<e6a4a4c80808111118wc6f74e6p267ee0b7b28318db@mail.gmail.com>	<83DB00B5-FC10-44C4-B28A-09C0BFC8655B@mynumo.com>
	<000c01c8fbfa$f2358a50$d6a09ef0$@ipl.pt>
Message-ID: <014001c8fc80$50d5c720$f2815560$@com>

If any of you are at Siggraph in LA this week, come by the Khronos birds of
a feather (BOF) meeting room 507 midday Thursday - it's all about Open GL ES
2.0, which is definitely here.

 

Jon Peddie

 

 

From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of RSantos
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:41 PM
To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge

 

I'm also still in business, and working on mobile games.

Mobiles can do 3D graphics, OpenGL ES 2.0 it's almost here, the question is
: Are mobile users interested on better graphics on their mobiles ? Or are
we developers going again by the way phone manufactures guide us ?

 

Ricardo Flores

Web and Mobile Developer

 <http://www.biodroid-entertainment.com> www.biodroid-entertainment.com

 <mailto:rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com>
rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com

 

 

From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of William Volk
Sent: segunda-feira, 11 de Agosto de 2008 19:29
To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge

 

The iPhone's app store is the real deal.  Apple reports 60m downloads, $30m
in sales ... all in one month.

 

Check out our 1st title, REMELODY.

 

William Volk

CEO, MyNuMo

858 692 1124

The Social Entertainment Company

http://www.mynumo.com

 

On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:

 

I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.

N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great if it
weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its in a tight spot.

Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends. Look at a
Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d graphics, yeah. Real 3d
game, no. Just my oppinion.




On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <dangame at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm still on the list, too.

Dan

2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com>:

> Hi Jason,
>
> Well, I know *I'm* here.
> And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
>
> Ohad.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> To: mobile_games at igda.org
> Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
>
> Hi,
>
> Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted some
> contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> worthwhile to share here:
>
>
> *******************************************
> This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> development of their concepts!
>
> Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
>
> Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> *******************************************
>
> Regards,
>        Jason
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jason Della Rocca
> Executive Director
> International Game Developers Association
>
> direct: +1-514-426-1162
> main: +1-856-423-2990
> fax: +1-514-426-1201
> jason at igda.org
>
> Montreal, Canada
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> http://www.igda.org/
> http://www.realitypanic.com/
>
> "Do or do not. There is no try."
> - Yoda
>
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From jeferson.valadares at gmail.com  Tue Aug 12 09:43:02 2008
From: jeferson.valadares at gmail.com (Jeferson Valadares)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:43:02 +0100
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
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couple of thoughts -

i don't think the numbers are off by much, iphone users are more
likely to browse, etc than others so it feels quite natural that
they'll be more likely to consume entertainment than others. but for
sure there's the "new toy" effect in place right now - hopefully apple
will be able to sustain those levels of interest.

and as for grabbing the attention of consumers: with the number of
apps rising, eventually the app store will not be the best place to
get your game noticed. if you're a small developer i highly recommend
that you start building your user community around your company/game
and then just deep link to the store. for me this is one of the
biggest benefits of the store after all - the ability to market your
game in your own terms.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Diogo Neves <diogo.neves at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that this is natural, it's the Apple hype talking. Probably we'll
> only get true values in one month.
>
> Diogo Neves
>
> mike_ch_1 at hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Isn't it quite strange that they did 30 million in sales and there are
>> roughly 7 million iphones. So that means that on average each and every
>> iphone owner spent just over 4 dollars. That seems absurdly high to me. Or
>> am I missing something here?
>>
>> Thx
>>
>> Michael
>> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless handheld
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Ohad Barzilay" <civax at mobilegd.com>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:56:09 To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing
>> List'<mobile_games at igda.org>
>> Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
>>
>>
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From rsantos at escs.ipl.pt  Tue Aug 12 10:15:38 2008
From: rsantos at escs.ipl.pt (RSantos)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:15:38 +0100
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
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I agree with you Jeferson, Apple users and buyers at least here in Europe
are more or less an elite, or want to be. They money to spent in more than
just calls. iPhone it's good because of the widgets, games and applications,
because as a phone or email is not so good after all.
Grabbing the users attentions is the answer on this on-line communities days
that we live, as a small developer you should have to empower your network,
and be present on Facebook and others. Bloggers have to talk about your game
or application, I think that's the way to stand up on Apple Store. Or then
just spend a lot of money on good advertising (social and fashion magazines
included).

Ricardo Flores
Web and Mobile Developer
www.biodroid-entertainment.com 
rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com   

-----Original Message-----
From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Jeferson Valadares
Sent: ter?a-feira, 12 de Agosto de 2008 14:43
To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market

couple of thoughts -

i don't think the numbers are off by much, iphone users are more
likely to browse, etc than others so it feels quite natural that
they'll be more likely to consume entertainment than others. but for
sure there's the "new toy" effect in place right now - hopefully apple
will be able to sustain those levels of interest.

and as for grabbing the attention of consumers: with the number of
apps rising, eventually the app store will not be the best place to
get your game noticed. if you're a small developer i highly recommend
that you start building your user community around your company/game
and then just deep link to the store. for me this is one of the
biggest benefits of the store after all - the ability to market your
game in your own terms.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Diogo Neves <diogo.neves at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that this is natural, it's the Apple hype talking. Probably we'll
> only get true values in one month.
>
> Diogo Neves
>
> mike_ch_1 at hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Isn't it quite strange that they did 30 million in sales and there are
>> roughly 7 million iphones. So that means that on average each and every
>> iphone owner spent just over 4 dollars. That seems absurdly high to me.
Or
>> am I missing something here?
>>
>> Thx
>>
>> Michael
>> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless handheld
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Ohad Barzilay" <civax at mobilegd.com>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:56:09 To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing
>> List'<mobile_games at igda.org>
>> Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
>>
>>
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From jon at jonpeddie.com  Tue Aug 12 11:29:12 2008
From: jon at jonpeddie.com (Jon Peddie)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:29:12 -0700
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] 3D games
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Hi everyone

 

Who among you is actually developing a mobile (i.e., handheld) game, and for
what API?

 

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From paul at pulsemobilegames.com  Tue Aug 12 11:41:27 2008
From: paul at pulsemobilegames.com (Paul Trowe)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:41:27 -0500
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Looking for mobile games
Message-ID: <00a201c8fc91$e29b38a0$a7d1a9e0$@com>

Hey gang,

 

I'm looking for cool mobile games for South America.  J2ME please.  We'll do
the porting to all the phones and the localization as well and give you PHAT
revenue share (unlike some of the big publishers who don't give you Jack).
In some cases we'll just buy the game outright from you for a lump sum.
We're looking right now so please send me an email privately
paul at pulsemobilegames.com and we could get the process started right now.
The sooner we get started the sooner we could get them in to the carrier's
hands to start evaluating.

 

Talk to you soon,

-Paul

 

Paul Trowe
President

 

Pulse Interactive, Inc.
14837 Montoro Drive
Austin, TX 78728

 

(512) 244-1717 office
(512) 970-0097 mobile
(512) 233-2951 fax

 

www.pulsemobilegames.com

 

ICQ: 49994079
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AIM: birdboy512

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From rsantos at escs.ipl.pt  Tue Aug 12 11:56:29 2008
From: rsantos at escs.ipl.pt (RSantos)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:56:29 +0100
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] 3D games
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Hi

 

I?m the lead producer of the mobile division of Biodroid Productions.

We are working on 2 titles for mobile, one just for N-Gage and other for
N-Gage and iPhone.

But then again we still do Java 


Ricardo Flores

 

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On Behalf Of Jon Peddie
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Cc: 'David Wong <davidwong at pointlesswasteofti';
mobile_games-bounces at igda.org; rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com;
jason at igda.org
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] 3D games

 

Hi everyone

 

Who among you is actually developing a mobile (i.e., handheld) game, and for
what API?

 

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From bvolk at mynumo.com  Tue Aug 12 16:18:45 2008
From: bvolk at mynumo.com (William Volk)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:18:45 -0700
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
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Greystripe is claiming decent CPM's .... $25 and up.

William Volk
CEO, MyNuMo
858 692 1124
The Social Entertainment Company
http://www.mynumo.com

On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:56 PM, Ohad Barzilay wrote:

> iPhone's AppStore is indeed doing well, yet it's still left to see  
> how this can affect the sales of games other then the big  
> publishers. We already have one game on the store and for now we're  
> quite noticeable, but I'm not sure how things will be as more apps  
> joining. It will probably get even more interesting once more apps  
> will become available and we might find ourselves in the same  
> problem we had on operators' catalogs, getting noticed within all  
> the other games around.
>
> I haven't seen figures yet on the Greystripe supported games. Anyone  
> has a clue how well are they doing? How many games out with it and  
> how much did they actually make to the developers?
>
>
>
> From: William Volk [mailto:bvolk at mynumo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:03 AM
> To: Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez; Mobile Game Dev SIG Mailing List
> Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
>
> Here's some numbers to chew on.
>
> 60m downloads, probabily 6m paid, $30m in revenue, therefore average  
> price of $5.
>
> Sega Super Monkey Ball generated $3m in gross revenue  from 300k  
> sales at $9.99 a pop.  That means that this title represented 10% of  
> overall sales revenue or 5% of unit sales.
>
> Our title, Remelody, had feature placement for six days we are still  
> waiting for the sales figures from the 1st two weeks of sales, I  
> suspect that is when the bulk of sales occured.  It will be  
> interesting to see.
>
> It may be that the Greystripe Ad Model makes sense for some titles.
>
> Next will be our branded (Kenny Rogers, The Gambler) casino games.   
> More excitement no doubt.
>
> William Volk
> CEO, MyNuMo
> 858 692 1124
> The Social Entertainment Company
> http://www.mynumo.com
>
> On Aug 11, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:
>
>
> Good to hear people is still listening to this thing. We're also  
> still working on mobile, but we're sort of an impasse due to the  
> mobile market turmoil... namely, iphone + sales being mysteriously  
> low for a just-released game (we released an unlicensed summer games  
> themed game)
>
> Our guess is that it's time to think out of the box for a while. And  
> it's damn scary.
>
>
> 2008/8/11 RSantos <rsantos at escs.ipl.pt>
> I'm also still in business, and working on mobile games.
>
> Mobiles can do 3D graphics, OpenGL ES 2.0 it's almost here, the  
> question is : Are mobile users interested on better graphics on  
> their mobiles ? Or are we developers going again by the way phone  
> manufactures guide us ?
>
>
> Ricardo Flores
>
> Web and Mobile Developer
>
> www.biodroid-entertainment.com
>
> rflores at biodroid-entertainment.com
>
>
>
> From: mobile_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:mobile_games-bounces at igda.org 
> ] On Behalf Of William Volk
> Sent: segunda-feira, 11 de Agosto de 2008 19:29
> To: Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
>
>
> The iPhone's app store is the real deal.  Apple reports 60m  
> downloads, $30m in sales ... all in one month.
>
>
> Check out our 1st title, REMELODY.
>
>
> William Volk
>
> CEO, MyNuMo
>
> 858 692 1124
>
> The Social Entertainment Company
>
> http://www.mynumo.com
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jorge Gonzalez Sanchez wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm still here too, but I thought this list was dead.
>
> N-gage's gonna have it tough again I think. Might have been great if  
> it weren't for the iphone App store, but now it looks like its in a  
> tight spot.
>
> Plus, 3D games and a cellphone keyboard were never best friends.  
> Look at a Dualshock and it's no mystery why. 2.5d, 2d with 3d  
> graphics, yeah. Real 3d game, no. Just my oppinion.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dan Roy <dangame at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm still on the list, too.
>
> Dan
>
> 2008/8/11 Ohad Barzilay <civax at mobilegd.com>:
>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > Well, I know *I'm* here.
> > And I've already posted about the event on MobileGD.
> >
> > Ohad.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Della Rocca [mailto:jason at igda.org]
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:14 AM
> > To: mobile_games at igda.org
> > Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] Mobile Games Innovation Challenge
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Not sure who's still getting this list... Anyway, we just posted  
> some
> > contest info from Nokia in the IGDA's July newsletter. Thought it
> > worthwhile to share here:
> >
> >
> > *******************************************
> > This is your change to get your game concept published by Nokia! Top
> > three entries will be offered a Nokia Publishing pre-production
> > contract and cash prizes totalling US$100,000 to support further
> > development of their concepts!
> >
> > Submitting your concept is very easy, no code is needed, just a
> > concept description and visualization. For more information, visit:
> > http://insider.n-gage.com/innovation
> >
> > Deadline for submissions is 20th of August, 2008!
> > *******************************************
> >
> > Regards,
> >        Jason
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Jason Della Rocca
> > Executive Director
> > International Game Developers Association
> >
> > direct: +1-514-426-1162
> > main: +1-856-423-2990
> > fax: +1-514-426-1201
> > jason at igda.org
> >
> > Montreal, Canada
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > http://www.igda.org/
> > http://www.realitypanic.com/
> >
> > "Do or do not. There is no try."
> > - Yoda
> >
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> -- 
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>
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From bvolk at mynumo.com  Tue Aug 12 16:53:56 2008
From: bvolk at mynumo.com (William Volk)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:53:56 -0700
Subject: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
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Well, I'd suspect most of those sales were the new 3G iPhone users.

William Volk
CEO, MyNuMo
858 692 1124
The Social Entertainment Company
http://www.mynumo.com

On Aug 12, 2008, at 5:06 AM, mike_ch_1 at hotmail.com wrote:

> Isn't it quite strange that they did 30 million in sales and there  
> are roughly 7 million iphones. So that means that on average each  
> and every iphone owner spent just over 4 dollars. That seems  
> absurdly high to me. Or am I missing something here?
>
> Thx
>
> Michael
> Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless handheld
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Ohad Barzilay" <civax at mobilegd.com>
>
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:56:09
> To: 'Mobile Game Development SIG Mailing List'<mobile_games at igda.org>
> Subject: Re: [IGDA Mobile-SIG List] iPhone Game Market
>
>
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