From matt at rossiters.com  Tue Oct  9 03:01:08 2007
From: matt at rossiters.com (Matt Rossiter)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 00:01:08 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Making a new test bench
Message-ID: <9dce3395b01022bf09fb58a71af3cf37@rossiters.com>



 I'm going to get a bigger/better table for doing all my test bench
stuff in the garage.  Can someone recommend material I should buy for
the table covering?  Meaning, something static free and durable and
well suited for scratchy circuit boards.  

  Thanks  

  Matt 

From ajcrm125 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 07:29:52 2007
From: ajcrm125 at gmail.com (Adam Courchesne)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:29:52 -0400
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Making a new test bench
In-Reply-To: <9dce3395b01022bf09fb58a71af3cf37@rossiters.com>
References: <9dce3395b01022bf09fb58a71af3cf37@rossiters.com>
Message-ID: <7fcc300710110429m338bde36oeff70b53c46f9b06@mail.gmail.com>

You can use plexiglass and a ground strap (wrist type) when working on
nay of your boards.  That's what I do....

On 10/9/07, Matt Rossiter <matt at rossiters.com> wrote:
>
>
>  I'm going to get a bigger/better table for doing all my test bench
> stuff in the garage.  Can someone recommend material I should buy for
> the table covering?  Meaning, something static free and durable and
> well suited for scratchy circuit boards.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Matt
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From martin at guddler.co.uk  Thu Oct 11 08:36:08 2007
From: martin at guddler.co.uk (Martin White)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:36:08 +0100
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Making a new test bench
In-Reply-To: <7fcc300710110429m338bde36oeff70b53c46f9b06@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9dce3395b01022bf09fb58a71af3cf37@rossiters.com>
	<7fcc300710110429m338bde36oeff70b53c46f9b06@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20071011133608.8o3f64fqoo0848ws@webmail.guddler.co.uk>

A sheet of hardboard??

I use a very nice piece of hardboard that happened to be the back of  
an old wardrobe. Looks lovely and is about as durable as it gets.

Martin.

> You can use plexiglass and a ground strap (wrist type) when working on
> nay of your boards.  That's what I do....
>
> On 10/9/07, Matt Rossiter <matt at rossiters.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  I'm going to get a bigger/better table for doing all my test bench
>> stuff in the garage.  Can someone recommend material I should buy for
>> the table covering?  Meaning, something static free and durable and
>> well suited for scratchy circuit boards.
>>
>>   Thanks
>>
>>   Matt


From ayeckley at sierralobo.com  Thu Oct 11 07:51:55 2007
From: ayeckley at sierralobo.com (Alex Yeckley)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:51:55 -0400
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Making a new test bench
In-Reply-To: <20071011133608.8o3f64fqoo0848ws@webmail.guddler.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003401c80bfd$1fa7c820$0c01a8c0@office>

> You can use plexiglass and a ground strap (wrist type)

That scares me a bit, as plexi is a pretty good insulator (and therefore
it's easy to generate static on it).  Even with a wrist strap I can picture
some damage occurring.  Wood would be strongly preferable in IMHO.  Even
better would be an ESD laminate top, which are available from places like
www.mcmaster.com.  That's kinda/sorta what we use.

Alex
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From joemagiera at ameritech.net  Mon Nov 26 15:44:10 2007
From: joemagiera at ameritech.net (Joseph Magiera)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:44:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
Message-ID: <984912.36901.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a PC running Windows XP?
   
  I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using a Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful computer by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O software (if it can indeed work on XP).
   
  Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
   
  Joe
  joemagiera at ameritech.net


From martin at guddler.co.uk  Mon Nov 26 16:22:40 2007
From: martin at guddler.co.uk (martin at guddler.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:22:40 +0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
In-Reply-To: <984912.36901.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <984912.36901.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D817A960-3701-4EF3-B964-6B4A13CC19FE@guddler.co.uk>

Yes, works fine!

Have also interfaced with a Data I/O 29b and a Fluke 9010a from an  
iMac that's running XP in a virtual machine (VMWare Fusion), using a  
USB to serial adapter - that was fun for 5 minutes :)

Martin.

On 26 Nov 2007, at 20:44, Joseph Magiera wrote:

>  Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B  
> using a PC running Windows XP?
>
>  I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on  
> using a Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty  
> unpowerful computer by today's standard, but should be plenty for  
> running the Data I/O software (if it can indeed work on XP).
>
>  Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>
>  Joe
>  joemagiera at ameritech.net
>
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From dfish_1 at comcast.net  Mon Nov 26 21:27:40 2007
From: dfish_1 at comcast.net (David Fish)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:27:40 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
References: <984912.36901.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001001c8309d$15724c30$6401a8c0@davestower>

Hey Joe,

Unfortunately, I've never been able to get the modified version to work, 
dunno why not, others have. I ended up keeping a laptop w/Win 3.1 to run the 
original, un-modified version. I tried multiple computers but always the 
same WIN XP disks, maybe that had something to do with it. YMMV.

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Magiera" <joemagiera at ameritech.net>
To: <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?


>  Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a PC 
> running Windows XP?
>
>  I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using a 
> Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful 
> computer by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data 
> I/O software (if it can indeed work on XP).
>
>  Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>
>  Joe
>  joemagiera at ameritech.net
>
> _______________________________________________
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From artfromny at nycap.rr.com  Mon Nov 26 21:50:58 2007
From: artfromny at nycap.rr.com (Art)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:50:58 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] unsubscribe
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Fish" <dfish_1 at comcast.net>
To: <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?


> Hey Joe,
>
> Unfortunately, I've never been able to get the modified version to work, 
> dunno why not, others have. I ended up keeping a laptop w/Win 3.1 to run 
> the original, un-modified version. I tried multiple computers but always 
> the same WIN XP disks, maybe that had something to do with it. YMMV.
>
> Dave
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Magiera" <joemagiera at ameritech.net>
> To: <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:44 PM
> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
>
>
>>  Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a 
>> PC running Windows XP?
>>
>>  I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using 
>> a Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful 
>> computer by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data 
>> I/O software (if it can indeed work on XP).
>>
>>  Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>>
>>  Joe
>>  joemagiera at ameritech.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From arcadeforever at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 22:08:06 2007
From: arcadeforever at gmail.com (Arcadeforever)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:08:06 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
In-Reply-To: <984912.36901.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <984912.36901.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9e9ac7880711261908w4761cf2dt91c8168e17231b6b@mail.gmail.com>

Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com

On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera at ameritech.net> wrote:

>  Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a PC
> running Windows XP?
>
>  I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using a
> Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful computer
> by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O software
> (if it can indeed work on XP).
>
>  Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>
>  Joe
>  joemagiera at ameritech.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Techtoolslist mailing list
> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
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From wkarkula at comcast.net  Mon Nov 26 23:51:26 2007
From: wkarkula at comcast.net (Bill Karkula)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:51:26 -0600
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
In-Reply-To: <9e9ac7880711261908w4761cf2dt91c8168e17231b6b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <984912.36901.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<9e9ac7880711261908w4761cf2dt91c8168e17231b6b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c830b1$2b1b6760$0301a8c0@BILL>

I can confirm the version below works on my Dell PIII-700 and XP.  Is your
cable OK? You do need a specifically wired cable as shown in the Data I/O
manual and to set the baud rate (going from my memory here) to 9600 N 8 1.
Also, is the serial port enabled in your BIOS?

Best Regards,

Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Arcadeforever
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM
To: Technical Tools Mail List
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?

Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com

On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera at ameritech.net> wrote:

>  Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a PC
> running Windows XP?
>
>  I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using a
> Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful
computer
> by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O
software
> (if it can indeed work on XP).
>
>  Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>
>  Joe
>  joemagiera at ameritech.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Techtoolslist mailing list
> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
>



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From jrr at flippers.com  Tue Nov 27 00:15:50 2007
From: jrr at flippers.com (John Robertson)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:50 -0800
Subject: [Techtoolslist] unsubscribe
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Bye Art!

You are unsubscribed...

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Art wrote:
> unsubscribe
>
> Art
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fish" <dfish_1 at comcast.net>
> To: <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
>
>
>> Hey Joe,
>>
>> Unfortunately, I've never been able to get the modified version to 
>> work, dunno why not, others have. I ended up keeping a laptop w/Win 
>> 3.1 to run the original, un-modified version. I tried multiple 
>> computers but always the same WIN XP disks, maybe that had something 
>> to do with it. YMMV.
>>
>> Dave
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Magiera" 
>> <joemagiera at ameritech.net>
>> To: <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:44 PM
>> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
>>
>>
>>>  Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B 
>>> using a PC running Windows XP?
>>>
>>>  I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on 
>>> using a Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty 
>>> unpowerful computer by today's standard, but should be plenty for 
>>> running the Data I/O software (if it can indeed work on XP).
>>>
>>>  Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>>>
>>>  Joe
>>>  joemagiera at ameritech.net
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Techtoolslist mailing list
>>> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
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From dfish_1 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 27 07:17:26 2007
From: dfish_1 at comcast.net (David Fish)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:17:26 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
References: <984912.36901.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com><9e9ac7880711261908w4761cf2dt91c8168e17231b6b@mail.gmail.com>
	<000f01c830b1$2b1b6760$0301a8c0@BILL>
Message-ID: <002201c830ef$7962e360$6401a8c0@davestower>

OK, I got mine working now with a fresh copy. I kept getting the 'Error 11' 
message with previous attempts. Had to be something that I was doing wrong 
before.

Thanks!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Karkula" <wkarkula at comcast.net>
To: "'Technical Tools Mail List'" <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?


>I can confirm the version below works on my Dell PIII-700 and XP.  Is your
> cable OK? You do need a specifically wired cable as shown in the Data I/O
> manual and to set the baud rate (going from my memory here) to 9600 N 8 1.
> Also, is the serial port enabled in your BIOS?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Arcadeforever
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM
> To: Technical Tools Mail List
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
>
> Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera at ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>  Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a 
>> PC
>> running Windows XP?
>>
>>  I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using 
>> a
>> Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful
> computer
>> by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O
> software
>> (if it can indeed work on XP).
>>
>>  Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>>
>>  Joe
>>  joemagiera at ameritech.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Techtoolslist mailing list
>> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
>>
>
>
>
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From joemagiera at ameritech.net  Tue Nov 27 09:37:06 2007
From: joemagiera at ameritech.net (Joe Magiera)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:37:06 -0600
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
In-Reply-To: <000f01c830b1$2b1b6760$0301a8c0@BILL>
Message-ID: <20071127143529.9D565AE0CD@mailwash25.pair.com>

The cable isn't a standard serial cable?  Did you have to mod the cable or
is it some other standard cable that I can just get at my local PC store?

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Karkula
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:51 PM
To: 'Technical Tools Mail List'
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?

I can confirm the version below works on my Dell PIII-700 and XP.  Is your
cable OK? You do need a specifically wired cable as shown in the Data I/O
manual and to set the baud rate (going from my memory here) to 9600 N 8 1.
Also, is the serial port enabled in your BIOS?

Best Regards,

Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Arcadeforever
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM
To: Technical Tools Mail List
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?

Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com

On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera at ameritech.net> wrote:

>  Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a PC
> running Windows XP?
>
>  I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using a
> Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful
computer
> by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O
software
> (if it can indeed work on XP).
>
>  Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>
>  Joe
>  joemagiera at ameritech.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Techtoolslist mailing list
> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
>



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From martin at guddler.co.uk  Tue Nov 27 09:43:26 2007
From: martin at guddler.co.uk (martin at guddler.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:43:26 +0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
In-Reply-To: <20071127143529.9D565AE0CD@mailwash25.pair.com>
References: <20071127143529.9D565AE0CD@mailwash25.pair.com>
Message-ID: <BF5113E8-7C79-4DF1-AF94-6D4BC3D93D25@guddler.co.uk>

I had no idea that mark's website had now gone, but thanks to  
archives, here's the info you need:
http://web.archive.org/web/20051230044833/www.leopardcats.com/dio/dataioserial.htm

I can confirm that his info is correct since he made the cable that I  
have here.

Martin.

On 27 Nov 2007, at 14:37, Joe Magiera wrote:

> The cable isn't a standard serial cable?  Did you have to mod the  
> cable or
> is it some other standard cable that I can just get at my local PC  
> store?
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Karkula
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:51 PM
> To: 'Technical Tools Mail List'
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
>
> I can confirm the version below works on my Dell PIII-700 and XP.   
> Is your
> cable OK? You do need a specifically wired cable as shown in the  
> Data I/O
> manual and to set the baud rate (going from my memory here) to 9600  
> N 8 1.
> Also, is the serial port enabled in your BIOS?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Arcadeforever
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM
> To: Technical Tools Mail List
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
>
> Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera at ameritech.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B  
>> using a PC
>> running Windows XP?
>>
>> I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on  
>> using a
>> Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful
> computer
>> by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O
> software
>> (if it can indeed work on XP).
>>
>> Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>> joemagiera at ameritech.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Techtoolslist mailing list
>> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
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From joemagiera at ameritech.net  Tue Nov 27 10:19:16 2007
From: joemagiera at ameritech.net (Joe Magiera)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:19:16 -0600
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B to PC cable?
In-Reply-To: <BF5113E8-7C79-4DF1-AF94-6D4BC3D93D25@guddler.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20071127151728.37B25AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>

Modified the subject to be more accurate...

Martin, thanks much for that info.

Ok, can anyone else confirm that they use a cable/connection as shown in the
link below, or have they been able to use a standard serial 25 pin cable on
both sides (Data I/O and PC)?  Thanks,

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of
martin at guddler.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:43 AM
To: Technical Tools Mail List
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?

I had no idea that mark's website had now gone, but thanks to  
archives, here's the info you need:
http://web.archive.org/web/20051230044833/www.leopardcats.com/dio/dataioseri
al.htm

I can confirm that his info is correct since he made the cable that I  
have here.

Martin.

On 27 Nov 2007, at 14:37, Joe Magiera wrote:

> The cable isn't a standard serial cable?  Did you have to mod the  
> cable or
> is it some other standard cable that I can just get at my local PC  
> store?
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Karkula
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:51 PM
> To: 'Technical Tools Mail List'
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
>
> I can confirm the version below works on my Dell PIII-700 and XP.   
> Is your
> cable OK? You do need a specifically wired cable as shown in the  
> Data I/O
> manual and to set the baud rate (going from my memory here) to 9600  
> N 8 1.
> Also, is the serial port enabled in your BIOS?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Arcadeforever
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM
> To: Technical Tools Mail List
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
>
> Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera at ameritech.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B  
>> using a PC
>> running Windows XP?
>>
>> I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on  
>> using a
>> Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful
> computer
>> by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O
> software
>> (if it can indeed work on XP).
>>
>> Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>> joemagiera at ameritech.net
>>
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>
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From arcadeforever at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 10:29:40 2007
From: arcadeforever at gmail.com (Arcadeforever)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:29:40 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B to PC cable?
In-Reply-To: <20071127151728.37B25AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
References: <BF5113E8-7C79-4DF1-AF94-6D4BC3D93D25@guddler.co.uk>
	<20071127151728.37B25AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
Message-ID: <9e9ac7880711270729y60f5c97dj33450c4e8e1af69@mail.gmail.com>

I use a regular serial cable 25 -> 9 with a null modem adapter, that works
for me..

Wayne

On Nov 27, 2007 10:19 AM, Joe Magiera <joemagiera at ameritech.net> wrote:

> Modified the subject to be more accurate...
>
> Martin, thanks much for that info.
>
> Ok, can anyone else confirm that they use a cable/connection as shown in
> the
> link below, or have they been able to use a standard serial 25 pin cable
> on
> both sides (Data I/O and PC)?  Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of
> martin at guddler.co.uk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:43 AM
> To: Technical Tools Mail List
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
>
> I had no idea that mark's website had now gone, but thanks to
> archives, here's the info you need:
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20051230044833/www.leopardcats.com/dio/dataioseri
> al.htm
>
> I can confirm that his info is correct since he made the cable that I
> have here.
>
> Martin.
>
> On 27 Nov 2007, at 14:37, Joe Magiera wrote:
>
> > The cable isn't a standard serial cable?  Did you have to mod the
> > cable or
> > is it some other standard cable that I can just get at my local PC
> > store?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
> > [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Karkula
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:51 PM
> > To: 'Technical Tools Mail List'
> > Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
> >
> > I can confirm the version below works on my Dell PIII-700 and XP.
> > Is your
> > cable OK? You do need a specifically wired cable as shown in the
> > Data I/O
> > manual and to set the baud rate (going from my memory here) to 9600
> > N 8 1.
> > Also, is the serial port enabled in your BIOS?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
> > [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Arcadeforever
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM
> > To: Technical Tools Mail List
> > Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?
> >
> > Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera at ameritech.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B
> >> using a PC
> >> running Windows XP?
> >>
> >> I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on
> >> using a
> >> Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP.  A pretty unpowerful
> > computer
> >> by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O
> > software
> >> (if it can indeed work on XP).
> >>
> >> Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running?  Thanks,
> >>
> >> Joe
> >> joemagiera at ameritech.net
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Techtoolslist mailing list
> >> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Wayne Moore
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> >
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From jrr at flippers.com  Tue Nov 27 20:36:25 2007
From: jrr at flippers.com (John Robertson)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:36:25 -0800
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Looking for schematic for TANKERS by For Play...
In-Reply-To: <20071127151728.37B25AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
References: <20071127151728.37B25AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
Message-ID: <474CC619.8090201@flippers.com>

Anyone have this schematic? I have the BI-PLANE, but there are 
significant differences between the two - at least on one board.

Thanks,

John :-#)#
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From jrr at flippers.com  Tue Nov 27 22:26:58 2007
From: jrr at flippers.com (John Robertson)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:26:58 -0800
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Looking for schematic for TANKERS by For Play...
In-Reply-To: <474CC619.8090201@flippers.com>
References: <20071127151728.37B25AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
	<474CC619.8090201@flippers.com>
Message-ID: <474CE002.1030300@flippers.com>

John Robertson wrote:
> Anyone have this schematic? I have the BI-PLANE, but there are 
> significant differences between the two - at least on one board.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John :-#)#
Alex sent me a copy, seems that Al Kossow had scanned that one a while back.

So thanks to Al and Alex!

John :-#)#

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From rlboots at cedar-rapids.net  Wed Nov 28 03:57:33 2007
From: rlboots at cedar-rapids.net (Rodger Boots)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:57:33 -0600
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Looking for schematic for TANKERS by For Play...
In-Reply-To: <474CC619.8090201@flippers.com>
References: <20071127151728.37B25AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
	<474CC619.8090201@flippers.com>
Message-ID: <474D2D7D.9000303@cedar-rapids.net>

Who was For Play?   I used to have Tankers and Bi-Plane and mine were by 
Fun Games.

Anyway, both games had a jumper on one of the ROM address lines you 
could change to get a different playfield.  On Bi-Plane it made it 
unplayable, but on Tankers it gave you the Kee Games Tank playfield.
 

John Robertson wrote:
> Anyone have this schematic? I have the BI-PLANE, but there are 
> significant differences between the two - at least on one board.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John :-#)#

From warlords at punkass.com  Fri Nov 30 10:49:54 2007
From: warlords at punkass.com (Andy Welburn)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:49:54 -0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B to PC cable?
References: <20071127151728.37B25AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
Message-ID: <006101c83369$13fd7720$9700a8c0@server>

I use my workshop pc (a P3-800) with the modified version, using a null 
modem cable i think? its not a special modified cable, just something off 
the shelf.

I run windows XP, file system is FAT32, dunno if that makes any difference?

but.... here's the thing... The only way it works for me is if i switch the 
programmer on, wait for it to finish its self test... it'll say 'remote 
mode' then i have 30 seconds to load up the promlink software, and perform 
an action, any action that has to talk to the programmer, like 'process' or 
'fill ram from master'.

It seems that if i don't do that, the programmer times out and the com port 
gets 'stuck' and i have to reboot, there's no way of clearing it. Also power 
cycling the 29b just goes through the self-test then instead of going to 
remote mode reports somethgin like 'i/o error 33' which can be cleared by 
disconnecting the serial cable and power cycling, then re-attatching the 
serial cable, but it'll crash again with the i/o error if you havn't 
rebooted the pc :-)

Thing is, the action i have to do doesn't need to do anything, and you don't 
need to actually perform it, it just has to send something to the programmer 
to tell it which socket to use, once its done that, it never times out and i 
never have any problems with it.

Also, never switch the 29b on with a blank PROM in any of the sockets, it 
will bugger them up.

Am i the only one that has to work with it like that? I don't mind really, 
its been rock solid for the 8 years I've owned it, this particular pc/OS 
configuration hasn't changed for at least 5 years i'd say... it works 
perfectly otherwise.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Magiera" <joemagiera at ameritech.net>
To: "'Technical Tools Mail List'" <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B to PC cable?


> Modified the subject to be more accurate...
>
> Martin, thanks much for that info.
>
> Ok, can anyone else confirm that they use a cable/connection as shown in 
> the
> link below, or have they been able to use a standard serial 25 pin cable 
> on
> both sides (Data I/O and PC)?  Thanks,
>
> Joe

[snip] 



From arcadeforever at gmail.com  Fri Nov 30 11:08:47 2007
From: arcadeforever at gmail.com (Arcadeforever)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:08:47 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B to PC cable?
In-Reply-To: <006101c83369$13fd7720$9700a8c0@server>
References: <20071127151728.37B25AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
	<006101c83369$13fd7720$9700a8c0@server>
Message-ID: <9e9ac7880711300808w19546c69ie00d07e33e7e3cbf@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, that sound like a real pain I definately dont do that, you are doing
the same thing I am, except I use win 98SE, but yes null modem cable, unit
set to remote( I forget the dipswitch settings) it all should work fine, one
piece of advice though, make sure you dont have any (Blackberry, palm pilot)
software using the serial port that will muck it up for sure.
Wayne

On Nov 30, 2007 10:49 AM, Andy Welburn <warlords at punkass.com> wrote:

> I use my workshop pc (a P3-800) with the modified version, using a null
> modem cable i think? its not a special modified cable, just something off
> the shelf.
>
> I run windows XP, file system is FAT32, dunno if that makes any
> difference?
>
> but.... here's the thing... The only way it works for me is if i switch
> the
> programmer on, wait for it to finish its self test... it'll say 'remote
> mode' then i have 30 seconds to load up the promlink software, and perform
> an action, any action that has to talk to the programmer, like 'process'
> or
> 'fill ram from master'.
>
> It seems that if i don't do that, the programmer times out and the com
> port
> gets 'stuck' and i have to reboot, there's no way of clearing it. Also
> power
> cycling the 29b just goes through the self-test then instead of going to
> remote mode reports somethgin like 'i/o error 33' which can be cleared by
> disconnecting the serial cable and power cycling, then re-attatching the
> serial cable, but it'll crash again with the i/o error if you havn't
> rebooted the pc :-)
>
> Thing is, the action i have to do doesn't need to do anything, and you
> don't
> need to actually perform it, it just has to send something to the
> programmer
> to tell it which socket to use, once its done that, it never times out and
> i
> never have any problems with it.
>
> Also, never switch the 29b on with a blank PROM in any of the sockets, it
> will bugger them up.
>
> Am i the only one that has to work with it like that? I don't mind really,
> its been rock solid for the 8 years I've owned it, this particular pc/OS
> configuration hasn't changed for at least 5 years i'd say... it works
> perfectly otherwise.
>
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Magiera" <joemagiera at ameritech.net>
> To: "'Technical Tools Mail List'" <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:19 PM
> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B to PC cable?
>
>
> > Modified the subject to be more accurate...
> >
> > Martin, thanks much for that info.
> >
> > Ok, can anyone else confirm that they use a cable/connection as shown in
> > the
> > link below, or have they been able to use a standard serial 25 pin cable
> > on
> > both sides (Data I/O and PC)?  Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
>
> [snip]
>
>
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From warlords at punkass.com  Wed Dec  5 10:53:41 2007
From: warlords at punkass.com (Andy Welburn)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:53:41 -0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100 programming
Message-ID: <001601c83757$1550d300$9700a8c0@server>

hi all..

i wonder if i'm the only one with this niggling problem, i'm doing 
increasingly more programming on my 9100 now, and the one thing that really 
gets my goat is that after powering up the UUT with CPU POD in place and 
hitting 'reset' you have to remember to hit main menu | mode | test by 
continuing with faults before loading the editor or any UUT programs you may 
have written, otherwise they'll dump out of your program with either a fault 
window on the editor display, or with an error on the user terminal.

I've looked through a lot of the manuals, and i still can't find any 
reference to setting this up in a UUT program with a command of some kind...

Has anyone else worked round this? or am i just being picky? i know TLl/1 
has its share of bugs and quirks, but this one i'd like to sort out.

Also, i've built programs for each UUT in each its own UUT directory, 
ideally i'd like to boot the 9100 into a frontend that will allow me to 
immediately load up a uut program from a menu, or to dump me to the user 
terminal, but i can't find a way to 'execute' a UUT program that isn't in 
the same directory as the calling program, i tried /hdr/UUTNAME/program_name 
but it doesn't like that either..

any pointers?

Andy 



From markhooks at embarqmail.com  Wed Dec  5 11:09:58 2007
From: markhooks at embarqmail.com (Mark Hooks)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:09:58 -0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100A Keyboard Needed
Message-ID: <001c01c6d0fd$57700420$6800a8c0@D9H12R41>

I'm trying to set up my 9100A to do some programming but I can't find a Keyboard for it. I have everythig else I need. If you have a spare youre willing to sell please let me know. I have a lot of pods and the like for trade as well (6800, 6802, 8080, 8085, 8086, 9132, probe, etc.).

Mark Hooks
888-261-8265

From jrr at flippers.com  Wed Dec  5 12:38:39 2007
From: jrr at flippers.com (John Robertson)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 09:38:39 -0800
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100A Keyboard Needed
In-Reply-To: <001c01c6d0fd$57700420$6800a8c0@D9H12R41>
References: <001c01c6d0fd$57700420$6800a8c0@D9H12R41>
Message-ID: <4756E21F.6030605@flippers.com>

Mark Hooks wrote:
> I'm trying to set up my 9100A to do some programming but I can't find a Keyboard for it. I have everythig else I need. If you have a spare youre willing to sell please let me know. I have a lot of pods and the like for trade as well (6800, 6802, 8080, 8085, 8086, 9132, probe, etc.).
>
> Mark Hooks
> 888-261-8265
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>
>   
Mark,

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From joemagiera at ameritech.net  Sun Dec  9 00:50:41 2007
From: joemagiera at ameritech.net (Joe Magiera)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:50:41 -0600
Subject: [Techtoolslist] transistor help (off topic)
Message-ID: <20071209054839.27092AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>

I'm sorry, I know this is a little off topic, but no one responded on the
vector list and I'm hoping someone might be able to help here.

 

A buddy of mine is working on a couple of Cosmic Chasm monitors (Electrohome
G08_105).  He is pretty good at finding crosses to current components, but
has been stumped on a couple that I'm hoping someone here can help.  They
are both bottle cap type transistors.  The first is SDT1064.  He did find a
cross to this by NTE, but they are $18 each.  We're hoping to find a cheaper
alternative, as we need 8 of them.

 

The other one is a Hitachi, and the only thing on them is 14-601-36.  He
can't find anything on this one, not even a spec sheet to try to find a
cross.

 

Can anyone help?  Thanks,

 

Joe

joemagiera at ameritech.net


From prototech at usa.net  Sun Dec  9 03:02:47 2007
From: prototech at usa.net (William E Miller)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:02:47 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] transistor help (off topic)
Message-ID: <384LLiiBv2120S15.1197187367@cmsweb15.cms.usa.net>

> A buddy of mine is working on a couple of Cosmic Chasm monitors
(Electrohome
> G08_105).  He is pretty good at finding crosses to current components, but
> has been stumped on a couple that I'm hoping someone here can help.  They
> are both bottle cap type transistors.  The first is SDT1064.  He did find a
> cross to this by NTE, but they are $18 each.  We're hoping to find a
cheaper
> alternative, as we need 8 of them.

So what NTE cross did you come up with?

With that, we might be able to do a cross back to another equivalent.

I checked SDT1064 an did not find an NTE cross.

> The other one is a Hitachi, and the only thing on them is 14-601-36.  He
> can't find anything on this one, not even a spec sheet to try to find a
> cross.

Could you post the reference designator numbers of the transsitors in
question? That might help.

I have a Sega / Gremin G08 monitor here I will refer to.

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From matt at rossiters.com  Sun Dec  9 11:32:22 2007
From: matt at rossiters.com (Matt Rossiter)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 08:32:22 -0800
Subject: [Techtoolslist] transistor help (off topic)
In-Reply-To: <20071209054839.27092AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
References: <20071209054839.27092AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
Message-ID: <a2b8ff9419b2e05070bd2c28c0caeb48@rossiters.com>

Ok, whatever you do - please don't take this as advice here and put this in
your monitor.  I'm just throwing this one out as a possibility for the
14-601-36 Transistor which Sega marks as an NPN Power Transistor with a
1400v 5A rating in a T0-3 case in their manual. 
http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?Ntt=511-BU208A%09.

Any thoughts or comments?

Matt



On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:50:41 -0600, "Joe Magiera" <joemagiera at ameritech.net>
wrote:
> I'm sorry, I know this is a little off topic, but no one responded on the
> vector list and I'm hoping someone might be able to help here.
> 
> 
> 
> A buddy of mine is working on a couple of Cosmic Chasm monitors
> (Electrohome
> G08_105).  He is pretty good at finding crosses to current components,
but
> has been stumped on a couple that I'm hoping someone here can help.  They
> are both bottle cap type transistors.  The first is SDT1064.  He did find
> a
> cross to this by NTE, but they are $18 each.  We're hoping to find a
> cheaper
> alternative, as we need 8 of them.
> 
> 
> 
> The other one is a Hitachi, and the only thing on them is 14-601-36.  He
> can't find anything on this one, not even a spec sheet to try to find a
> cross.
> 
> 
> 
> Can anyone help?  Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Joe
> 
> joemagiera at ameritech.net
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jrr at flippers.com  Sun Dec  9 12:04:40 2007
From: jrr at flippers.com (John Robertson)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:04:40 -0800
Subject: [Techtoolslist] transistor help (off topic)
In-Reply-To: <20071209054839.27092AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
References: <20071209054839.27092AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
Message-ID: <475C2028.3090608@flippers.com>

Joe,

Did you check out my ECG/NTE to real world cross reference on flippers?

http://www.flippers.com/X-Ref-ECG.html

John :-#)#

Joe Magiera wrote:
> I'm sorry, I know this is a little off topic, but no one responded on the
> vector list and I'm hoping someone might be able to help here.
>
>  
>
> A buddy of mine is working on a couple of Cosmic Chasm monitors (Electrohome
> G08_105).  He is pretty good at finding crosses to current components, but
> has been stumped on a couple that I'm hoping someone here can help.  They
> are both bottle cap type transistors.  The first is SDT1064.  He did find a
> cross to this by NTE, but they are $18 each.  We're hoping to find a cheaper
> alternative, as we need 8 of them.
>
>  
>
> The other one is a Hitachi, and the only thing on them is 14-601-36.  He
> can't find anything on this one, not even a spec sheet to try to find a
> cross.
>
>  
>
> Can anyone help?  Thanks,
>
>  
>
> Joe
>
> joemagiera at ameritech.net
>
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From mike at mikesarcade.com  Tue Dec 11 19:28:24 2007
From: mike at mikesarcade.com (Mike Haaland)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:28:24 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] transistor help (off topic)
In-Reply-To: <475C2028.3090608@flippers.com>
References: <20071209054839.27092AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com>
	<475C2028.3090608@flippers.com>
Message-ID: <025a01c83c55$e8b59480$6501a8c0@BIGIRON>

According to this:

http://www.angliac.com/infosearch/xreftable.asp?offset=4710

BUX48A is a cross for STD1064.

Best,

 - Mike -

-----Original Message-----
From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of John Robertson
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:05 AM
To: Technical Tools Mail List
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] transistor help (off topic)

Joe,

Did you check out my ECG/NTE to real world cross reference on flippers?

http://www.flippers.com/X-Ref-ECG.html

John :-#)#

Joe Magiera wrote:
> I'm sorry, I know this is a little off topic, but no one responded on the
> vector list and I'm hoping someone might be able to help here.
>
>  
>
> A buddy of mine is working on a couple of Cosmic Chasm monitors
(Electrohome
> G08_105).  He is pretty good at finding crosses to current components, but
> has been stumped on a couple that I'm hoping someone here can help.  They
> are both bottle cap type transistors.  The first is SDT1064.  He did find
a
> cross to this by NTE, but they are $18 each.  We're hoping to find a
cheaper
> alternative, as we need 8 of them.
>
>  
>
> The other one is a Hitachi, and the only thing on them is 14-601-36.  He
> can't find anything on this one, not even a spec sheet to try to find a
> cross.
>
>  
>
> Can anyone help?  Thanks,
>
>  
>
> Joe
>
> joemagiera at ameritech.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Techtoolslist mailing list
> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
>
>
>   


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From mike at mikesarcade.com  Tue Dec 11 19:35:23 2007
From: mike at mikesarcade.com (Mike Haaland)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:35:23 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] transistor help (off topic)
In-Reply-To: <025a01c83c55$e8b59480$6501a8c0@BIGIRON>
References: <20071209054839.27092AE09F@mailwash25.pair.com><475C2028.3090608@flippers.com>
	<025a01c83c55$e8b59480$6501a8c0@BIGIRON>
Message-ID: <025e01c83c56$e3007090$6501a8c0@BIGIRON>

Hmm, Wrong package!  Have you tried checking with Bob Roberts?
www.therealbobroberts.net

 - Mike -

-----Original Message-----
According to this:

http://www.angliac.com/infosearch/xreftable.asp?offset=4710

BUX48A is a cross for STD1064.

Best,

 - Mike -

-----Original Message-----
From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of John Robertson
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:05 AM
To: Technical Tools Mail List
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] transistor help (off topic)

Joe,

Did you check out my ECG/NTE to real world cross reference on flippers?

http://www.flippers.com/X-Ref-ECG.html

John :-#)#

Joe Magiera wrote:
> I'm sorry, I know this is a little off topic, but no one responded on the
> vector list and I'm hoping someone might be able to help here.
>
>  
>
> A buddy of mine is working on a couple of Cosmic Chasm monitors
(Electrohome
> G08_105).  He is pretty good at finding crosses to current components, but
> has been stumped on a couple that I'm hoping someone here can help.  They
> are both bottle cap type transistors.  The first is SDT1064.  He did find
a
> cross to this by NTE, but they are $18 each.  We're hoping to find a
cheaper
> alternative, as we need 8 of them.
>
>  
>
> The other one is a Hitachi, and the only thing on them is 14-601-36.  He
> can't find anything on this one, not even a spec sheet to try to find a
> cross.
>
>  
>
> Can anyone help?  Thanks,
>
>  
>
> Joe
>
> joemagiera at ameritech.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Techtoolslist mailing list
> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
>
>
>   


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From warlords at punkass.com  Sat Dec 15 18:59:55 2007
From: warlords at punkass.com (Andy Welburn)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:59:55 -0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Example code for Calculating CRC32 on the Fluke 9100
Message-ID: <000701c83f77$02ff19f0$9700a8c0@server>

hi all.

Well, after running into this on more than one occasion, i decided to do 
something about it, you know when you have soldered-in roms on a game pcb 
and you don't have any 'good' signatures for that rom in particular? Don't 
want to have to desolder the rom? Don't have a reader capable of reading 
that funky rom? Still want to check the roms contents with a known good 
dump?

I'm working on an Atari Sprint 2 pcb right now with just such a problem, 
after building an adapter to replace the 2k*8 PROM soldered-in with a 2716, 
i could then verify that i did have a bad prom there, and subsequently 
managed to verify all other roms by burning a bunch of 2716's with mame code 
and verifying sigs taken from the real roms in place against the known good 
2716... However, while doing this, i pestered a few peopel into trying to 
crack the fluke 9100 signature calculation routine so that i could run it on 
mame roms and verify on the fluke itself. This is no easy task and i've been 
asking around for this for a while now... so i gave up, and thought to 
myself it would be great if i could calculate a reliable signature on the 
9100 that is easily calculated on the pc on mame roms...

 Well then CRC32 is an answer to this, MAME carries CRC32's of all the roms 
it uses in all its game drivers, an excellent source of known-good sigs!

With the help of Chris Hardy - who found this small CRC calculator code 
online - it looked like it could be converted for TL/1 use:
http://www.di-mgt.com.au/crypto.html#CRC

 My C programming skills are very rusty, and it saved me a lot of time 
talking to Chris to just check on the meanings of the C statements in this 
CRC calculator code... Once Chris explained some of it to me in English, it 
helped me to translate it to what i know of TL/1...

and here's the result of equivalent code :
http://www.andysarcade.net/pix/DSC_2380.JPG

(full program code omitted, but if you know TL/1 you know the meat and 
potatoes is in the middle bit - so long as you declare numeric 
crc=$FFFFFFFF, numeric temp, numeric j, numeric octets at the top)

I'm no rocket-scientist, but i stuck this in my PROGLIB and it'll now be 
available to all my other UUT programs :) Its not tidy code, its not the 
quickest or most efficient, but it works... If you can suggest a better way 
of doing it, then please do expand on this if you can!

I'm interested to hear who is actually actively programming on the 9100, is 
it just me all on my own?? I know a few people who own the 9100 units, but 
i'm the only one amongst them that seems to be using the editing suite... 
Whats the situation with you lot here on the list? A show of hands would be 
nice to see...

Maybe we can pool resources and swap code snippets? I have hundreds of rom 
sigs and a growing collection of programs i have written, I understand 
anyones reluctance to give this info up for free (i have certainly put in a 
considerable amount of time on the fluke) so i'm looking to trade info with 
other people if anyone needs it? Personally i'm not after much info myself, 
but i'm always keen to add to my own knowledge base, and i don't mind 
helping others out with programming, and advice on the pitfalls of bugs in 
TL/1 etc.. :-)

Of course, I could be delusional and I really am the only one doing any 
programming with it...

so speak up!

Andy Welburn
http://www.andys-arcade.com 



From martin at guddler.co.uk  Sun Dec 16 06:51:36 2007
From: martin at guddler.co.uk (martin at guddler.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:51:36 +0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Example code for Calculating CRC32 on the Fluke
	9100
In-Reply-To: <000701c83f77$02ff19f0$9700a8c0@server>
References: <000701c83f77$02ff19f0$9700a8c0@server>
Message-ID: <FCEF501C-A524-49CC-BD86-E92BE13E9048@guddler.co.uk>

I'd love to be programming a 9100 but every time I've tried to pick  
one up in the past there has always seemed to be a dozen or so other  
people after it and they've all gone for silly money! The ironic thing  
is that it's a bit like the 9010's. Most of the people that end up  
chasing after them in the UK are after them simply because they've  
heard it's some magic PCB fixing tool and when it boils down to it,  
really don't have a clue how to use one when they've actually got the  
damn thing!!

It's a real shame too since all my gear is packed away at the moment  
so I would have plenty of time to be tinkering about with one.

If anyone knows of a sensibly priced 9100 setup going begging in the  
UK then I'd be very interested in a deal on one.

On the CRC32 checking itself Andy, are 9100 sigs different to 9010  
sigs? On the 9010 I would have used FIDE to generate sigs from the  
mame roms and read them that way in situ. I'm assuming the 9100 sigs  
must be different though? I might have a better read up on the 9100  
later. Being a programmer I do find it pretty interesting :o)

Martin.

On 15 Dec 2007, at 23:59, Andy Welburn wrote:

> hi all.
>
> Well, after running into this on more than one occasion, i decided  
> to do something about it, you know when you have soldered-in roms on  
> a game pcb and you don't have any 'good' signatures for that rom in  
> particular? Don't want to have to desolder the rom? Don't have a  
> reader capable of reading that funky rom? Still want to check the  
> roms contents with a known good dump?
>
> I'm working on an Atari Sprint 2 pcb right now with just such a  
> problem, after building an adapter to replace the 2k*8 PROM soldered- 
> in with a 2716, i could then verify that i did have a bad prom  
> there, and subsequently managed to verify all other roms by burning  
> a bunch of 2716's with mame code and verifying sigs taken from the  
> real roms in place against the known good 2716... However, while  
> doing this, i pestered a few peopel into trying to crack the fluke  
> 9100 signature calculation routine so that i could run it on mame  
> roms and verify on the fluke itself. This is no easy task and i've  
> been asking around for this for a while now... so i gave up, and  
> thought to myself it would be great if i could calculate a reliable  
> signature on the 9100 that is easily calculated on the pc on mame  
> roms...
>
> Well then CRC32 is an answer to this, MAME carries CRC32's of all  
> the roms it uses in all its game drivers, an excellent source of  
> known-good sigs!
>
> With the help of Chris Hardy - who found this small CRC calculator  
> code online - it looked like it could be converted for TL/1 use:
> http://www.di-mgt.com.au/crypto.html#CRC
>
> My C programming skills are very rusty, and it saved me a lot of  
> time talking to Chris to just check on the meanings of the C  
> statements in this CRC calculator code... Once Chris explained some  
> of it to me in English, it helped me to translate it to what i know  
> of TL/1...
>
> and here's the result of equivalent code :
> http://www.andysarcade.net/pix/DSC_2380.JPG
>
> (full program code omitted, but if you know TL/1 you know the meat  
> and potatoes is in the middle bit - so long as you declare numeric  
> crc=$FFFFFFFF, numeric temp, numeric j, numeric octets at the top)
>
> I'm no rocket-scientist, but i stuck this in my PROGLIB and it'll  
> now be available to all my other UUT programs :) Its not tidy code,  
> its not the quickest or most efficient, but it works... If you can  
> suggest a better way of doing it, then please do expand on this if  
> you can!
>
> I'm interested to hear who is actually actively programming on the  
> 9100, is it just me all on my own?? I know a few people who own the  
> 9100 units, but i'm the only one amongst them that seems to be using  
> the editing suite... Whats the situation with you lot here on the  
> list? A show of hands would be nice to see...
>
> Maybe we can pool resources and swap code snippets? I have hundreds  
> of rom sigs and a growing collection of programs i have written, I  
> understand anyones reluctance to give this info up for free (i have  
> certainly put in a considerable amount of time on the fluke) so i'm  
> looking to trade info with other people if anyone needs it?  
> Personally i'm not after much info myself, but i'm always keen to  
> add to my own knowledge base, and i don't mind helping others out  
> with programming, and advice on the pitfalls of bugs in TL/1 etc.. :-)
>
> Of course, I could be delusional and I really am the only one doing  
> any programming with it...
>
> so speak up!
>
> Andy Welburn
> http://www.andys-arcade.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Techtoolslist mailing list
> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist


From warlords at punkass.com  Sun Dec 16 17:00:48 2007
From: warlords at punkass.com (Andy Welburn)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:00:48 -0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Example code for Calculating CRC32 on the Fluke
	9100
References: <000701c83f77$02ff19f0$9700a8c0@server>
	<FCEF501C-A524-49CC-BD86-E92BE13E9048@guddler.co.uk>
Message-ID: <002101c8402f$80d71900$9700a8c0@server>

Yeh the sigs are different between the 9010 and 9100.. The 9100 is a
different beast compared to the 9010...

If you're a programmer, the 9100 is a very cool thing to play with, once you
get past the old, slowness of a proprietory development system :)

I have heard people buying 9100's, but i hear they are more often than not
just the base unit, it took me several years to get hold of a video card,
i/o module and ic/rom clips, i already had probe, clock module, and managed
to get the video output working on a regular arcade monitor.. the
programmers keyboard took the longest, and was quite expensive, but
ultimately totally worthwhile. Yes i've had to work with a hard disk
failure/crash and worked out a tonne of stuff in the process of rebuilding
it and upgrading it, but all worthwhile.

Once you see what the thing can do, you feel compelled (well i do anyway) to
write stuff for it. Admittedly, you would need to spend an inordinate amount
of time programming on it to completely cover all aspects of a single
example game pcb, but once you have, identifying a faulty node would take a
matter of just minutes, which makes the development on it very appealing...

I actually recently pimped my 9100, i replaced the 20meg (ex-mac) scsi drive
with a 100meg quantum fireball scsi drive (more reliable i hope!) and
removed the noisey fan and put in an almost silent PC case fan, had to
remove the crossmembers of the case as the the airflow was still too
restricted... but now, the 9100 sits switched on for long periods, works
like a top, and isn't noisey anymore!

Andy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <martin at guddler.co.uk>
To: "Andy Welburn" <warlords at punkass.com>; "Technical Tools Mail List"
<techtoolslist at flippers.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Example code for Calculating CRC32 on the Fluke
9100


> I'd love to be programming a 9100 but every time I've tried to pick  one
> up in the past there has always seemed to be a dozen or so other  people
> after it and they've all gone for silly money! The ironic thing  is that
> it's a bit like the 9010's. Most of the people that end up  chasing after
> them in the UK are after them simply because they've  heard it's some
> magic PCB fixing tool and when it boils down to it,  really don't have a
> clue how to use one when they've actually got the  damn thing!!
>
> It's a real shame too since all my gear is packed away at the moment  so I
> would have plenty of time to be tinkering about with one.
>
> If anyone knows of a sensibly priced 9100 setup going begging in the  UK
> then I'd be very interested in a deal on one.
>
> On the CRC32 checking itself Andy, are 9100 sigs different to 9010  sigs?
> On the 9010 I would have used FIDE to generate sigs from the  mame roms
> and read them that way in situ. I'm assuming the 9100 sigs  must be
> different though? I might have a better read up on the 9100  later. Being
> a programmer I do find it pretty interesting :o)
>
> Martin.
>
> On 15 Dec 2007, at 23:59, Andy Welburn wrote:
>
>> hi all.
>>
>> Well, after running into this on more than one occasion, i decided  to do
>> something about it, you know when you have soldered-in roms on  a game
>> pcb and you don't have any 'good' signatures for that rom in  particular?
>> Don't want to have to desolder the rom? Don't have a  reader capable of
>> reading that funky rom? Still want to check the  roms contents with a
>> known good dump?
>>
>> I'm working on an Atari Sprint 2 pcb right now with just such a  problem,
>> after building an adapter to replace the 2k*8 PROM soldered- in with a
>> 2716, i could then verify that i did have a bad prom  there, and
>> subsequently managed to verify all other roms by burning  a bunch of
>> 2716's with mame code and verifying sigs taken from the  real roms in
>> place against the known good 2716... However, while  doing this, i
>> pestered a few peopel into trying to crack the fluke  9100 signature
>> calculation routine so that i could run it on mame  roms and verify on
>> the fluke itself. This is no easy task and i've  been asking around for
>> this for a while now... so i gave up, and  thought to myself it would be
>> great if i could calculate a reliable  signature on the 9100 that is
>> easily calculated on the pc on mame  roms...
>>
>> Well then CRC32 is an answer to this, MAME carries CRC32's of all  the
>> roms it uses in all its game drivers, an excellent source of  known-good
>> sigs!
>>
>> With the help of Chris Hardy - who found this small CRC calculator  code
>> online - it looked like it could be converted for TL/1 use:
>> http://www.di-mgt.com.au/crypto.html#CRC
>>
>> My C programming skills are very rusty, and it saved me a lot of  time
>> talking to Chris to just check on the meanings of the C  statements in
>> this CRC calculator code... Once Chris explained some  of it to me in
>> English, it helped me to translate it to what i know  of TL/1...
>>
>> and here's the result of equivalent code :
>> http://www.andysarcade.net/pix/DSC_2380.JPG
>>
>> (full program code omitted, but if you know TL/1 you know the meat  and
>> potatoes is in the middle bit - so long as you declare numeric
>> crc=$FFFFFFFF, numeric temp, numeric j, numeric octets at the top)
>>
>> I'm no rocket-scientist, but i stuck this in my PROGLIB and it'll  now be
>> available to all my other UUT programs :) Its not tidy code,  its not the
>> quickest or most efficient, but it works... If you can  suggest a better
>> way of doing it, then please do expand on this if  you can!
>>
>> I'm interested to hear who is actually actively programming on the  9100,
>> is it just me all on my own?? I know a few people who own the  9100
>> units, but i'm the only one amongst them that seems to be using  the
>> editing suite... Whats the situation with you lot here on the  list? A
>> show of hands would be nice to see...
>>
>> Maybe we can pool resources and swap code snippets? I have hundreds  of
>> rom sigs and a growing collection of programs i have written, I
>> understand anyones reluctance to give this info up for free (i have
>> certainly put in a considerable amount of time on the fluke) so i'm
>> looking to trade info with other people if anyone needs it?  Personally
>> i'm not after much info myself, but i'm always keen to  add to my own
>> knowledge base, and i don't mind helping others out  with programming,
>> and advice on the pitfalls of bugs in TL/1 etc.. :-)
>>
>> Of course, I could be delusional and I really am the only one doing  any
>> programming with it...
>>
>> so speak up!
>>
>> Andy Welburn
>> http://www.andys-arcade.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Techtoolslist mailing list
>> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
>



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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:09:42 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Hot repl1ca w4tches from 2008
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From martin at guddler.co.uk  Mon Dec 31 08:22:51 2007
From: martin at guddler.co.uk (martin at guddler.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:22:51 +0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100 stuff wanted
Message-ID: <9A862E5E-E8E7-4D66-B872-D7ADF6E6BE7A@guddler.co.uk>

Hi all,

Before I go trawling eBay and doing it the hard way does anyone have  
any 9100 surplus kit FS please?

Someone on here was been kind enough to sort me out with a cheap base  
unit but I need pretty much everything else...

I realise not all of this will turn up over night. I'm in the UK so  
seller must be willing to ship abroad. All I really have FT is a non  
working 68000 pod I'm afraid, other than that, good old paypal.

Probe
Clock Module
<*cough*> Video Card <*cough*> !!
Keyboard (x2 as the chap sorting me the base unit also needs one)

Perhaps not straight away, but will be on the lookout:
IO Module
Clips etc.

Did anyone ever get anywhere with using a standard AT keyboard?

And how about the using compact flash instead of the hard drive?

(I read the archives for the past two years yesterday!)

Thanks,
Martin.
PS: Then I can start digging into the programming side of things and  
hopefully start to contribute to Andy :o)

From jrr at flippers.com  Mon Dec 31 12:41:00 2007
From: jrr at flippers.com (John Robertson)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:41:00 -0800
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100 stuff wanted
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martin at guddler.co.uk wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Before I go trawling eBay and doing it the hard way does anyone have 
> any 9100 surplus kit FS please?
>
> Someone on here was been kind enough to sort me out with a cheap base 
> unit but I need pretty much everything else...
>
> I realise not all of this will turn up over night. I'm in the UK so 
> seller must be willing to ship abroad. All I really have FT is a non 
> working 68000 pod I'm afraid, other than that, good old paypal.
>
> Probe
> Clock Module
> <*cough*> Video Card <*cough*> !!
> Keyboard (x2 as the chap sorting me the base unit also needs one)
>
> Perhaps not straight away, but will be on the lookout:
> IO Module
> Clips etc.
>
> Did anyone ever get anywhere with using a standard AT keyboard?
>
> And how about the using compact flash instead of the hard drive?
>
> (I read the archives for the past two years yesterday!)
>
> Thanks,
> Martin.
> PS: Then I can start digging into the programming side of things and 
> hopefully start to contribute to Andy :o)
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>
>
SCSI drive emulation would be a treat! Here is one link for a product to 
replace SCSI drives:

http://www.adtron.com/products/Sdds.html

Then we need someone to design a video card to replace the original so 
the machines can be useful...and what DID happen to the keyboard hack 
anyways? David? Corey?

John :-#)#

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From Corey at Stup.net  Mon Dec 31 13:12:59 2007
From: Corey at Stup.net (Corey Stup)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:12:59 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100 stuff wanted
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> SCSI drive emulation would be a treat! Here is one link for a product to 
> replace SCSI drives:
> 
> http://www.adtron.com/products/Sdds.html
I have worked with a couple SCSI->flash projects for the 9100.  Some are 
successful, others not so much.

The SCSI interfaced flash HD's seem to work fine (under approx 700MB, 
above and you get the overflow issue in the editor).  I have a couple 
running in 9100's now and they work perfectly, and no moving parts.

I've not been as successful with using the SCSI PCMCIA adaptors that 
allow for AT flash cards as a SCSI device.   I believe its do to the 
sector sizes being different, but I've not had a chance to followup on 
it.   I believe that another project that I have going (updating our 
kernel to OS-9 2.3) might help that, as its FS drivers allow for a 
larger range of sector sizes.   I have a SCSI bus analyzer that has 
helped debug the SCSI driver but I lost interest in that project, it 
could be dug back out again if there were others interested.

> Then we need someone to design a video card to replace the original so 
> the machines can be useful...and what DID happen to the keyboard hack 
> anyways? David? Corey?
I never worked on the keyboard hack, but I'd be happy to pick it back up.

I have a ton of 9100 parts that eventually I need to do something with. 
     Consoles, cards, parts, -003 modules, etc.