From ajcrm125 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  3 09:07:51 2009
From: ajcrm125 at gmail.com (Adam Courchesne)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:07:51 -0400
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Props to James Bright
Message-ID: <7fcc300907030607w6944b1ebi766a21d998672866@mail.gmail.com>

Giving some 'props' to James for his FIDE and in particular, his Fluke
signature generation program.;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyHX7uQcUZM

-- 
-Adam
"Please don't judge my God by my inability to follow him"  - Chris Mollins
===============
www.onecircuit.com
www.youtube.com/user/ajcrm125
===============

From james at quarterarcade.com  Fri Jul  3 11:44:38 2009
From: james at quarterarcade.com (James Bright)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:44:38 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Props to James Bright
Message-ID: <64cc35f1$7d4ccc59$218a801e$@com>

NICE!!

JB

----------------------------------------
From: "Adam Courchesne" <ajcrm125 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:09 AM
To: "James Bright" <james at quarterarcade.com>, "Techtools List" 
<techtoolslist at flippers.com>
Subject: Props to James Bright 

Giving some 'props' to James for his FIDE and in particular, his Fluke 
signature generation program.;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyHX7uQcUZM

-- 
-Adam
"Please don't judge my God by my inability to follow him"  - Chris Mollins 

===============
www.onecircuit.com
www.youtube.com/user/ajcrm125

===============

 

From mjsalay at gmail.com  Sun Jul 12 06:20:03 2009
From: mjsalay at gmail.com (Mike Salay)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:20:03 -0400
Subject: [Techtoolslist] 9010 tapes
Message-ID: <543917ca0907120320h53ab6d4dwaa723b518856f6d2@mail.gmail.com>

 Some months ago Scott (thomas43_at_aol.com <thomas43 at aol.com>) sent someone
his collection of 9010 tapes (see post below).  He doesn't recall who took
ownership of the tapes, but I'm hoping they were readable and the programs
can be made available.

thanks,
Mike

> I have a bunch of tapes here that I received with a unit I bought from an
operator.
> There are a bunch of test routines for games like Galaga, Tempest,
Battlezone and others (about 20 tapes).
> Does anyone here want to play with them, and post up the info for others
to share?  I don't have the time to mess with these.

From matt at rossiters.com  Sun Jul 12 12:11:00 2009
From: matt at rossiters.com (Matt Rossiter)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:11:00 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] 9010 tapes
In-Reply-To: <543917ca0907120320h53ab6d4dwaa723b518856f6d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <543917ca0907120320h53ab6d4dwaa723b518856f6d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bac6639b58d2a9d1e7c1ecdfa7e8abf6@localhost>

He sent those to me.

It took me awhile to get my tape deck working, but I eventually did.

Unfortunately there really wasn't much on those tapes.  It looks like
someone plugged in a working boardset (Battlezone, Tempest, Pac-Man, etc)
hit the LEARN button and then copied that info to tape.  If that's
something people are still interested in (which I doubt it since you can't
be 100% sure those boards were working) I can share those.  Some tapes were
either blank or couldn't be read.  There were some with actual programs on
them, but I don't believe they were video game related.  I can share those.

I was really hoping there were some actual arcade game troubleshooting
programs on the tapes, but at least it motivated me to learn how to fix the
Fluke 9010a tape deck!  :)

Matt


On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:20:03 -0400, Mike Salay <mjsalay at gmail.com> wrote:



> Some months ago Scott (thomas43_at_aol.com <thomas43 at aol.com>) sent
someone
> his collection of 9010 tapes (see post below).  He doesn't recall who
took
> ownership of the tapes, but I'm hoping they were readable and the
programs
> can be made available.
> 
> thanks,
> Mike
> 
>> I have a bunch of tapes here that I received with a unit I bought from
an
> operator.
>> There are a bunch of test routines for games like Galaga, Tempest,
> Battlezone and others (about 20 tapes).
>> Does anyone here want to play with them, and post up the info for
others
> to share?  I don't have the time to mess with these.
> _______________________________________________
> Techtoolslist mailing list
> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment
> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

From mail at nessandsteve.plus.com  Tue Jul 21 16:33:15 2009
From: mail at nessandsteve.plus.com (Backflipper)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:33:15 +0100
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 900 dynamic troubleshooter
Message-ID: <9D5E6A0BDC244C5D9DCCD437FBEE4D28@poachersrope>

Hello list,
I have recently put my faulty 900 back on the bench to test after receiving a missing pod. I decided to post up some information in the hope that other people may be able to shed some light on my findings and let me know there findings.

Better still has anyone got the service manual?

Anyway the details can be found on my website here:
http://sites.google.com/site/poachersrope/test-equipment/logic-testers/fluke/900a

Thanks in advance.
Steve

From c.cowgill at comcast.net  Sun Aug  2 19:29:18 2009
From: c.cowgill at comcast.net (Clay Cowgill)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:29:18 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Tek1240 ROM Pack Docs
In-Reply-To: <64cc35f1$7d4ccc59$218a801e$@com>
Message-ID: <DC4A02B721684F7D92191D6929D70359@ClayP4New>

Hey Everyone,

Back in 1998 I found a local guy at Tektronix in Beaverton, OR that had some
Tektronix 1240/1241 stuff for sale which I eagerly snatched up.  Turned out
that he was still with Tek as a support specialist, so he helped me get
stuff going by faxing me some of the manual info on the various ROM Packs I
picked up from him.  Anyway, I found the hardcopies of the faxes today while
cleaning up in the shop, so since I have a snazzy new sheet-fed document
scanner I decided to scan 'em in for preservation.  I don't know if the
information is already out there, but I figure a redundant copy is better
than no copy. ;-)

I've got 'em up on my website here:

http://www.embeddedengineeringllc.com/Tek1240/Tek1240_6502,6809_Mnemonics_Pa
ck.pdf
http://www.embeddedengineeringllc.com/Tek1240/Tek1240_Z80_Mnemonics_Connecti
ons.pdf
http://www.embeddedengineeringllc.com/Tek1240/Tek_1240_Z80,6502,6809,6811.pd
f

They'll probably stay there indefinitely, but snag a copy if you think you'd
ever want them, just in case. :-)

-Clay


From technobug at comcast.net  Sun Aug  2 20:10:01 2009
From: technobug at comcast.net (CRC)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:10:01 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Tek1240 ROM Pack Docs
In-Reply-To: <DC4A02B721684F7D92191D6929D70359@ClayP4New>
References: <DC4A02B721684F7D92191D6929D70359@ClayP4New>
Message-ID: <299B6EA8-DBE0-4BD8-86B7-A44D80BF177F@comcast.net>


On Aug 2, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Clay Cowgill wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
>
> Back in 1998 I found a local guy at Tektronix in Beaverton, OR that  
> had some
> Tektronix 1240/1241 stuff for sale which I eagerly snatched up.   
> Turned out
> that he was still with Tek as a support specialist, so he helped me  
> get
> stuff going by faxing me some of the manual info on the various ROM  
> Packs I
> picked up from him.  Anyway, I found the hardcopies of the faxes  
> today while
> cleaning up in the shop, so since I have a snazzy new sheet-fed  
> document
> scanner I decided to scan 'em in for preservation.  I don't know if  
> the
> information is already out there, but I figure a redundant copy is  
> better
> than no copy. ;-)
>
> I've got 'em up on my website here:
>
> http://www.embeddedengineeringllc.com/Tek1240/Tek1240_6502,6809_Mnemonics_Pa
> ck.pdf
> http://www.embeddedengineeringllc.com/Tek1240/Tek1240_Z80_Mnemonics_Connecti
> ons.pdf
> http://www.embeddedengineeringllc.com/Tek1240/Tek_1240_Z80,6502,6809,6811.pd
> f
>
> They'll probably stay there indefinitely, but snag a copy if you  
> think you'd
> ever want them, just in case. :-)
>
> -Clay

Clay -

You might want to forward these files, or the links, to <aek at bitsavers.org 
 >. Bitsavers <bitsavers.org> is associated with the Computer Museum  
and is becoming the central depository for much of computerland.

CRC

From talon.k at gmail.com  Fri Aug 21 08:19:32 2009
From: talon.k at gmail.com (Kevin Moore)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:19:32 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010a RS-232 problem.
Message-ID: <affed06c0908210519s3096d992md2f3a9e3325fca07@mail.gmail.com>

First Hello all I'm new to the list :)

Next my experience with the fluke is somewhat limited, but I'm
learning quite a bit, and want to learn more.

So this is what I have. Fluke 9101a, and a 6502 pod since I'm learning
to work on Vector games.

So far I've been able to do the normal stuff, Rom, and Ram checks
manually. I downloaded the FIDE program from Quarter Arcade, and have
it install on a Windows XP system. Next I'm using a 9pin serial cable
with a Null modem adapter and a 9-25 pin adapter to connect it to the
Fluke. I've set the dip switches on the Fluke for what I believe is
default. 7n1 IIRC at 9600 baud. In anycase, I've got COM1 set the same
in windows, and the FIDE program set the same. The one thing that
confuses me is the Hardware control settings. Xon/Xoff etc.

But what's happening when I try to transfer a program script to the
fluke is this, set up the FIDE so it's ready. Press Aux/If, Read,
Enter/Yes The fluke then will state receiving, but after 1-2 secs it
will just reset. Then the Fluke states Reset Ok.

I'm thinking it should stay in the receiving mode until the program is
finished transfering, but like I said I'm still new at using the
fluke.

I've done a little troubleshooting of the RS-232 board, but since I
don't have a probe at this time, and my manual program entry skills
are lacking on the fluke, I've been unable to enter in the program to
test the RS-232. I have confirmed that I have the +-6 volts.

I'm sure there are some things I left out that you need to know so
please ask away. Any suggestions would be much apperciated.

Thanks,

Kevin

From jrr at flippers.com  Fri Aug 21 13:23:19 2009
From: jrr at flippers.com (John Robertson)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:23:19 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010a RS-232 problem.
In-Reply-To: <affed06c0908210519s3096d992md2f3a9e3325fca07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <affed06c0908210519s3096d992md2f3a9e3325fca07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A8ED807.101@flippers.com>

Kevin Moore wrote:
> First Hello all I'm new to the list :)
>
> Next my experience with the fluke is somewhat limited, but I'm
> learning quite a bit, and want to learn more.
>
> So this is what I have. Fluke 9101a, and a 6502 pod since I'm learning
> to work on Vector games.
>
> So far I've been able to do the normal stuff, Rom, and Ram checks
> manually. I downloaded the FIDE program from Quarter Arcade, and have
> it install on a Windows XP system. Next I'm using a 9pin serial cable
> with a Null modem adapter and a 9-25 pin adapter to connect it to the
> Fluke. I've set the dip switches on the Fluke for what I believe is
> default. 7n1 IIRC at 9600 baud. In anycase, I've got COM1 set the same
> in windows, and the FIDE program set the same. The one thing that
> confuses me is the Hardware control settings. Xon/Xoff etc.
>
> But what's happening when I try to transfer a program script to the
> fluke is this, set up the FIDE so it's ready. Press Aux/If, Read,
> Enter/Yes The fluke then will state receiving, but after 1-2 secs it
> will just reset. Then the Fluke states Reset Ok.
>
> I'm thinking it should stay in the receiving mode until the program is
> finished transfering, but like I said I'm still new at using the
> fluke.
>
> I've done a little troubleshooting of the RS-232 board, but since I
> don't have a probe at this time, and my manual program entry skills
> are lacking on the fluke, I've been unable to enter in the program to
> test the RS-232. I have confirmed that I have the +-6 volts.
>
> I'm sure there are some things I left out that you need to know so
> please ask away. Any suggestions would be much apperciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>   
Hi Kevin,

I haven't used RS232 for a few years, but I recall using 8-N-1 instead 
of 7-N-1. The X-On/Off is enabled using the Setup key and 'More' to 
movethrough all the options.

The service manual for the 9010 does cover testing the RS-232 port, but 
a scope is required - and the Service Manual PDF file is damaged!

On another note I just discovered that the FTP archives (and my 
backups!) for a few PDFs are damaged...

If anyone has valid copies of:

9010A Course Notes.pdf
9010A Service Manual.pdf
9010A Operator Manual.pdf
9010A Evaluation Manual.pdf

I would appreciate an upload to the ftp site (send me an email so I know 
to look!)

Thanks,

John :-#)#


-- 
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
                 www.flippers.com 
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"


From talon.k at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 10:58:28 2009
From: talon.k at gmail.com (Kevin Moore)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:58:28 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010a RS-232 problem.
In-Reply-To: <4A8ED807.101@flippers.com>
References: <affed06c0908210519s3096d992md2f3a9e3325fca07@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A8ED807.101@flippers.com>
Message-ID: <affed06c0908220758t52086e1ewde1836de73e7253b@mail.gmail.com>

I should have those PDF files, but I'm at work right now. I'll send
them when I get home.

Kevin


On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:23 PM, John Robertson<jrr at flippers.com> wrote:
> Kevin Moore wrote:
>>
>> First Hello all I'm new to the list :)
>>
>> Next my experience with the fluke is somewhat limited, but I'm
>> learning quite a bit, and want to learn more.
>>
>> So this is what I have. Fluke 9101a, and a 6502 pod since I'm learning
>> to work on Vector games.
>>
>> So far I've been able to do the normal stuff, Rom, and Ram checks
>> manually. I downloaded the FIDE program from Quarter Arcade, and have
>> it install on a Windows XP system. Next I'm using a 9pin serial cable
>> with a Null modem adapter and a 9-25 pin adapter to connect it to the
>> Fluke. I've set the dip switches on the Fluke for what I believe is
>> default. 7n1 IIRC at 9600 baud. In anycase, I've got COM1 set the same
>> in windows, and the FIDE program set the same. The one thing that
>> confuses me is the Hardware control settings. Xon/Xoff etc.
>>
>> But what's happening when I try to transfer a program script to the
>> fluke is this, set up the FIDE so it's ready. Press Aux/If, Read,
>> Enter/Yes The fluke then will state receiving, but after 1-2 secs it
>> will just reset. Then the Fluke states Reset Ok.
>>
>> I'm thinking it should stay in the receiving mode until the program is
>> finished transfering, but like I said I'm still new at using the
>> fluke.
>>
>> I've done a little troubleshooting of the RS-232 board, but since I
>> don't have a probe at this time, and my manual program entry skills
>> are lacking on the fluke, I've been unable to enter in the program to
>> test the RS-232. I have confirmed that I have the +-6 volts.
>>
>> I'm sure there are some things I left out that you need to know so
>> please ask away. Any suggestions would be much apperciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> I haven't used RS232 for a few years, but I recall using 8-N-1 instead of
> 7-N-1. The X-On/Off is enabled using the Setup key and 'More' to movethrough
> all the options.
>
> The service manual for the 9010 does cover testing the RS-232 port, but a
> scope is required - and the Service Manual PDF file is damaged!
>
> On another note I just discovered that the FTP archives (and my backups!)
> for a few PDFs are damaged...
>
> If anyone has valid copies of:
>
> 9010A Course Notes.pdf
> 9010A Service Manual.pdf
> 9010A Operator Manual.pdf
> 9010A Evaluation Manual.pdf
>
> I would appreciate an upload to the ftp site (send me an email so I know to
> look!)
>
> Thanks,
>
> John :-#)#
>
>
> --
> John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call
> (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip
> out"
>
> _______________________________________________
> Techtoolslist mailing list
> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment
> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/
>

From talon.k at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 23:30:37 2009
From: talon.k at gmail.com (Kevin Moore)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:30:37 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010a RS-232 problem.
In-Reply-To: <4A8ED807.101@flippers.com>
References: <affed06c0908210519s3096d992md2f3a9e3325fca07@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A8ED807.101@flippers.com>
Message-ID: <affed06c0908222030o326edcf8y63fb0ac6046b3c76@mail.gmail.com>

John, you should have those 9010a PDF's you requested in the Incoming dir.

Not seeing the Xon/Xoff option under setup though. I'm using version
2b I think the roms are labeled 2.2

Kevin


On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:23 PM, John Robertson<jrr at flippers.com> wrote:
> Kevin Moore wrote:
>>
>> First Hello all I'm new to the list :)
>>
>> Next my experience with the fluke is somewhat limited, but I'm
>> learning quite a bit, and want to learn more.
>>
>> So this is what I have. Fluke 9101a, and a 6502 pod since I'm learning
>> to work on Vector games.
>>
>> So far I've been able to do the normal stuff, Rom, and Ram checks
>> manually. I downloaded the FIDE program from Quarter Arcade, and have
>> it install on a Windows XP system. Next I'm using a 9pin serial cable
>> with a Null modem adapter and a 9-25 pin adapter to connect it to the
>> Fluke. I've set the dip switches on the Fluke for what I believe is
>> default. 7n1 IIRC at 9600 baud. In anycase, I've got COM1 set the same
>> in windows, and the FIDE program set the same. The one thing that
>> confuses me is the Hardware control settings. Xon/Xoff etc.
>>
>> But what's happening when I try to transfer a program script to the
>> fluke is this, set up the FIDE so it's ready. Press Aux/If, Read,
>> Enter/Yes The fluke then will state receiving, but after 1-2 secs it
>> will just reset. Then the Fluke states Reset Ok.
>>
>> I'm thinking it should stay in the receiving mode until the program is
>> finished transfering, but like I said I'm still new at using the
>> fluke.
>>
>> I've done a little troubleshooting of the RS-232 board, but since I
>> don't have a probe at this time, and my manual program entry skills
>> are lacking on the fluke, I've been unable to enter in the program to
>> test the RS-232. I have confirmed that I have the +-6 volts.
>>
>> I'm sure there are some things I left out that you need to know so
>> please ask away. Any suggestions would be much apperciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> I haven't used RS232 for a few years, but I recall using 8-N-1 instead of
> 7-N-1. The X-On/Off is enabled using the Setup key and 'More' to movethrough
> all the options.
>
> The service manual for the 9010 does cover testing the RS-232 port, but a
> scope is required - and the Service Manual PDF file is damaged!
>
> On another note I just discovered that the FTP archives (and my backups!)
> for a few PDFs are damaged...
>
> If anyone has valid copies of:
>
> 9010A Course Notes.pdf
> 9010A Service Manual.pdf
> 9010A Operator Manual.pdf
> 9010A Evaluation Manual.pdf
>
> I would appreciate an upload to the ftp site (send me an email so I know to
> look!)
>
> Thanks,
>
> John :-#)#
>
>
> --
> John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call
> (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip
> out"
>
> _______________________________________________
> Techtoolslist mailing list
> Techtoolslist at flippers.com
> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment
> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/
>

From mail at nessandsteve.plus.com  Tue Aug 25 15:15:06 2009
From: mail at nessandsteve.plus.com (Backflipper)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:15:06 +0100
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 900 dynamic troubleshooter
Message-ID: <8F775D02643D4D189B83BC79983D8E2C@poachersrope>

Hello List,
To all who have a Fluke 900 dynamic troubleshooter in need of repair I managed to get hold of the service manual for Ztest testmate which is what Fluke rebadged for the 900.

I only received it in the last couple of minutes and have posted it here:
http://sites.google.com/site/poachersrope/test-equipment/logic-testers/fluke/900a
I will upload it to the ftp in a bit.

One step closer to sorting this out :)

Steve

From kstillinger at sc.rr.com  Thu Sep 10 10:43:43 2009
From: kstillinger at sc.rr.com (kstillinger at sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:43:43 -0400
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Needhams EMP20 family modules wanted
Message-ID: <20090910144343.WUOK2.587246.root@cdptpa-web27-z01>

> I picked one up cheap, but it's pretty useless without some family modules- 
  Needhams is out of business now.
> 
  I sure would like to get (the family module) the one for most of the EPROMS- M1A/M1B, I think.
  I've got the software and I think I can dig up a power supply.

  Any help would be appreciated.

>   Thanks! 
>   Kerry 
> 
> 


From kstillinger at sc.rr.com  Mon Sep 14 14:38:25 2009
From: kstillinger at sc.rr.com (kstillinger at sc.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:38:25 +0000
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Needhams EMP20 family modules INFO wanted
In-Reply-To: <20090910144343.WUOK2.587246.root@cdptpa-web27-z01>
Message-ID: <20090914183825.452GV.622081.root@cdptpa-web28-z02>

OK-

  Nobody can help with spare modules.  At least no response.
  I looked at the single module I DO have and it's just a small form SIMM stick.  168-pin?  Anyway, it just routes signals/power from one set of pins to another set.  I'm sure some of the modules are more complicated, but I'd guess the 1A/1B set is simple too.  Are they documented anywhere?  Anybody care to share a closeup picture of one that I might be able to hack onto a memory stick or something?

  Thanks-
  Kerry

---- kstillinger at sc.rr.com wrote: 
> > I picked one up cheap, but it's pretty useless without some family modules- 
>   Needhams is out of business now.
> > 
>   I sure would like to get (the family module) the one for most of the EPROMS- M1A/M1B, I think.
>   I've got the software and I think I can dig up a power supply.
> 
>   Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> >   Thanks! 
> >   Kerry 
> > 


From electronicamuse at aol.com  Mon Sep 14 17:32:39 2009
From: electronicamuse at aol.com (electronicamuse at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:32:39 -0400
Subject: [Techtoolslist] kstillinger@sc.rr.com
In-Reply-To: <20090914183825.452GV.622081.root@cdptpa-web28-z02>
Message-ID: <8CC039A05115B31-14F0-55D3@webmail-m007.sysops.aol.com>


 I can take some photos, but not sure how well the trades will show up.? there aren't that many, so won't take too long for me to document.? LMK if you don't get a response from somebody that has already documented.


Dave


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: kstillinger at sc.rr.com
To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:38 pm
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Needhams EMP20 family modules INFO wanted










OK-

  Nobody can help with spare modules.  At least no response.
  I looked at the single module I DO have and it's just a small form SIMM stick.  
168-pin?  Anyway, it just routes signals/power from one set of pins to another 
set.  I'm sure some of the modules are more complicated, but I'd guess the 1A/1B 
set is simple too.  Are they documented anywhere?  Anybody care to share a 
closeup picture of one that I might be able to hack onto a memory stick or 
something?

  Thanks-
  Kerry

---- kstillinger at sc.rr.com wrote: 
> > I picked one up cheap, but it's pretty useless without some family modules- 
>   Needhams is out of business now.
> > 
>   I sure would like to get (the family module) the one for most of the EPROMS- 
M1A/M1B, I think.
>   I've got the software and I think I can dig up a power supply.
> 
>   Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> >   Thanks! 
> >   Kerry 
> > 

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From jrr at flippers.com  Sat Sep 26 19:09:15 2009
From: jrr at flippers.com (John Robertson)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:09:15 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Looking for Kush N' Stuff Amusement Electronics
	manuals...
Message-ID: <4ABE9F1B.8050805@flippers.com>

OK, this is a real long shot, but perhaps someone here has a copy of the 
Exidy/ChiCoin service booklet (#8) put out by Kush N' Stuff  and hasn't 
sent it off the City of Berwyn...man I hate old TTL schematics as drawn 
by Exidy/ChiCoin!

http://www.cityofberwyn.com/bronzeage/

Their schematics have small groups of ICs with labels like "5BDGC" on 
inputs and outputs and you nave to find the other end of it...

Currently I'm servicing a Chi-Coin Demolition Derby and wish I had more 
info on the nomenclature used.

John :-#(#

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From rlboots at cedar-rapids.net  Sun Sep 27 01:27:31 2009
From: rlboots at cedar-rapids.net (Rodger Boots)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:27:31 -0500
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Looking for Kush N' Stuff Amusement Electronics
 manuals...
In-Reply-To: <4ABE9F1B.8050805@flippers.com>
References: <4ABE9F1B.8050805@flippers.com>
Message-ID: <4ABEF7C3.5050204@cedar-rapids.net>

At least the gates are drawn as gates and not the "military" blocks used 
on PSE schematics.


John Robertson wrote:
> OK, this is a real long shot, but perhaps someone here has a copy of 
> the Exidy/ChiCoin service booklet (#8) put out by Kush N' Stuff  and 
> hasn't sent it off the City of Berwyn...man I hate old TTL schematics 
> as drawn by Exidy/ChiCoin!
>
> http://www.cityofberwyn.com/bronzeage/
>
> Their schematics have small groups of ICs with labels like "5BDGC" on 
> inputs and outputs and you nave to find the other end of it...
>
> Currently I'm servicing a Chi-Coin Demolition Derby and wish I had 
> more info on the nomenclature used.
>
> John :-#(#
>

From jrr at flippers.com  Sun Sep 27 11:41:46 2009
From: jrr at flippers.com (John Robertson)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:41:46 -0700
Subject: [Techtoolslist] Looking for Kush N' Stuff Amusement Electronics
 manuals...
In-Reply-To: <4ABEF7C3.5050204@cedar-rapids.net>
References: <4ABE9F1B.8050805@flippers.com> <4ABEF7C3.5050204@cedar-rapids.net>
Message-ID: <4ABF87BA.1040809@flippers.com>

Rodger Boots wrote:
> At least the gates are drawn as gates and not the "military" blocks 
> used on PSE schematics.
>
>
Destruction Derby - ChiCoin, Demolition Derby -Exidy.

I have deciphered the gates a bit - there are four letters and sometimes 
a number at the front ... #XXXX.

The first letter is the page the signal first appears, pages are 
lettered A, B,...Y, Z.

I am going to spend some more time on Monday working out what the # and 
second digit refer too. You know these look a lot like Atari schematics 
of the same time - I am comparing Crash N Score and it appears close 
(comparing in my memory that is, as the DD schematic is at the shop and 
I only have an electronic CNS version).

If the configuration is X### then it is usually a pullup (A999) 
generated by a 7404 gate with the input tied to ground.

Gotta love working on early logic boards - get to pull out my logic clip 
and logic comparator, plus HP pulse generator, scope, and HP Signature 
voltmeter (has a frequency counter - handy for troubleshooting H & V 
counters).

John :-#)#
> John Robertson wrote:
>> OK, this is a real long shot, but perhaps someone here has a copy of 
>> the Exidy/ChiCoin service booklet (#8) put out by Kush N' Stuff  and 
>> hasn't sent it off the City of Berwyn...man I hate old TTL schematics 
>> as drawn by Exidy/ChiCoin!
>>
>> http://www.cityofberwyn.com/bronzeage/
>>
>> Their schematics have small groups of ICs with labels like "5BDGC" on 
>> inputs and outputs and you nave to find the other end of it...
>>
>> Currently I'm servicing a Chi-Coin Demolition Derby and wish I had 
>> more info on the nomenclature used.
>>
>> John :-#(#
>>
>
>


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