[Techtoolslist] OmniFlop

[techtools-steve]

No luck with Andre's new images.... both the 6.0 and 6.1 sys1 disk fails 
to boot.

The fluke 9100 does start booting from DR1 bit after maybe two seconds 
you no longer hear the track stepping sounds from the floppy and the 
fluke locks up.



On 11/12/2012 3:58 PM, Andre Huijts wrote:

> Sent the files to Steve, David and John.....who will be first ;);)

>

> Seriously hope this will solve that (likely) bad V6.1 System disk 2 bad image....

>

> Do we have any info about differences between V6.0 and V6.1 ?

>

> I didn't compare the images as I thought the image files on the PC will probably different between the various tools used to make these images ?

>

> I would love to write back my images to (new) DD floppies and give them a try. Could I try them on the 9105 ? I ask this because I also have a floppy set of V6.0 that is indicated (handwritten) to be for the 9105....

>

> Also, isn't the backup tool on the "Serive disk" ? I have a non official floppy with handwritten Service disk (or something like that) 1.4

>

> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

>

> Op 12 nov. 2012 om 06:10 heeft John Robertson<jrr at flippers.com>  het volgende geschreven:

>

>> Hi Andre,

>>

>> If you want to send me a copy via email I will test them either Monday or Tuesday...

>>

>> Have you tired comparing the set you have created with the set of 6.1 discs on TTL FTP under Fluke/9100A/System_DiscsRV6.1 ?

>>

>> John :-#)#

>>

>> Andre Huijts wrote:

>>> I understand the 9100 is OS-9 based but OmniFlop already supports three different OS-9 formats. However, it doesn't recognize them as any of these three.

>>>

>>> I've left behind Windows since 2006 (well my work's laptop is still running it) and moved to iMacs but my old PC still had it installed.

>>>

>>> I still figure it is more likely for someone to still have a working XP setup than a DOS machine, not to mention not being able to transfer stuff to USB devices under DOS (normally).

>>>

>>> You can always make a multi-boot system, one of them XP.

>>>

>>> OmniFlop won't run correct under virtual machines though and using USB floppy drives is also a no-no.

>>>

>>> I have now backed up all V6.1 discs two. I have two sets:

>>> Set 1 has System disks 1,2,3 Programmers Disk and IEEE-4888

>>> Set 2 has all this except the Programmers disk.

>>>

>>> Only Disk 1 of set 2 gave a read error but worked after a retry, All other floppies read trouble free.

>>>

>>> The zipped file is only 2,5 MB incl. the V6.0 set so no problem to e-mail it.

>>>

>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

>>>

>>> Op 11 nov. 2012 om 23:29 heeft Martin White<martin at guddler.co.uk>  het volgende geschreven:

>>>

>>>

>>>> IIRC they’re OS/9 floppies - not of Mac OS 9 fame. At the time that I looked before (2008 / 9 maybe?) it was one of the formats that required a purchased license. Obviously that could well have changed by now.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I tried to use Omniflop quite a lot with Acorn BBC / Archimedes disks and I was able to get it to work under XP but I was never able to get the 64bit Windows 7 version to work. I went through a few mails with the developer who didn’t have a 64bit Windows based PC  so all he was able to say was “<insert name>  has got it working but I’ve got no way to test / debug it” so I never got any further with it.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> It was great while it worked but I moved on from Windows XP a long, long time ago now.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> From: Andre Huijts

>>>> Sent: ‎11‎ ‎November‎ ‎2012 ‎21‎:‎49

>>>> To: Technical Tools Mail List

>>>> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] OmniFlop

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I did a test with OmniFlop and it reports that the Fluke floppies have the following format:

>>>>

>>>> 80/2/18/512

>>>>

>>>> My guess is

>>>> 80 tracks

>>>> 2 sides

>>>> 18 sectors per track

>>>> 512 bytes per sector

>>>>

>>>> I did notice the floppy format was mentioned somewhere in the Fluke docs but I forgot in which....will try to find it but if anyone else already knows......please confirm this is correct or not...

>>>>

>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

>>>>

>>>> Op 11 nov. 2012 om 22:35 heeft Andre Huijts<a.huijts at upcmail.nl>  het volgende geschreven:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Guys,

>>>>>

>>>>> I found this very promising looking program to back up the Fluke 9100 floppies:

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.shlock.co.uk/Utils/OmniFlop/OmniFlop.htm

>>>>>

>>>>> I like it because it runs under Windows, yes even W7 and it supports a load of formats, amongst them OS-9 formats.

>>>>>

>>>>> As a test I am now backing up the V6.0 disks. If anyone is able to recreate these floppies using OmniFlop and try them on a 9100a that would be great,

>>>>> I didn't have the time yet to hook up a monitor/ TV.

>>>>>

>>>>> Instead I dug out my PC which hasn't been used since 2005.....which eventually worked after getting some Raid 0 errors and the videocard loosing power because of what looks like a burnt power connector....

>>>>>

>>>>> Anyway, OmniFlop recognizes the Fluke floppies as Gravograph ISIS format, which is a computer controlled engraving machine.

>>>>>

>>>>> If anyone has a "spare" system they can try out these floppy images on so that we know if OmniFlop works for us that would be great ! :)

>>>>>

>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

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