[Techtoolslist] OmniFlop

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Just boot a live Linux cd and use dd to copy the floppy to a .bin file



-----Original Message-----

>From: techtools-steve <techtools at arcadehacking.com>

>Sent: Nov 18, 2012 12:06 PM

>To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist at flippers.com>

>Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] OmniFlop

>

>No luck with Andre's new images.... both the 6.0 and 6.1 sys1 disk fails 

>to boot.

>

>The fluke 9100 does start booting from DR1 bit after maybe two seconds 

>you no longer hear the track stepping sounds from the floppy and the 

>fluke locks up.

>

>

>

>On 11/12/2012 3:58 PM, Andre Huijts wrote:

>> Sent the files to Steve, David and John.....who will be first ;);)

>>

>> Seriously hope this will solve that (likely) bad V6.1 System disk 2 bad image....

>>

>> Do we have any info about differences between V6.0 and V6.1 ?

>>

>> I didn't compare the images as I thought the image files on the PC will probably different between the various tools used to make these images ?

>>

>> I would love to write back my images to (new) DD floppies and give them a try. Could I try them on the 9105 ? I ask this because I also have a floppy set of V6.0 that is indicated (handwritten) to be for the 9105....

>>

>> Also, isn't the backup tool on the "Serive disk" ? I have a non official floppy with handwritten Service disk (or something like that) 1.4

>>

>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

>>

>> Op 12 nov. 2012 om 06:10 heeft John Robertson<jrr at flippers.com>  het volgende geschreven:

>>

>>> Hi Andre,

>>>

>>> If you want to send me a copy via email I will test them either Monday or Tuesday...

>>>

>>> Have you tired comparing the set you have created with the set of 6.1 discs on TTL FTP under Fluke/9100A/System_DiscsRV6.1 ?

>>>

>>> John :-#)#

>>>

>>> Andre Huijts wrote:

>>>> I understand the 9100 is OS-9 based but OmniFlop already supports three different OS-9 formats. However, it doesn't recognize them as any of these three.

>>>>

>>>> I've left behind Windows since 2006 (well my work's laptop is still running it) and moved to iMacs but my old PC still had it installed.

>>>>

>>>> I still figure it is more likely for someone to still have a working XP setup than a DOS machine, not to mention not being able to transfer stuff to USB devices under DOS (normally).

>>>>

>>>> You can always make a multi-boot system, one of them XP.

>>>>

>>>> OmniFlop won't run correct under virtual machines though and using USB floppy drives is also a no-no.

>>>>

>>>> I have now backed up all V6.1 discs two. I have two sets:

>>>> Set 1 has System disks 1,2,3 Programmers Disk and IEEE-4888

>>>> Set 2 has all this except the Programmers disk.

>>>>

>>>> Only Disk 1 of set 2 gave a read error but worked after a retry, All other floppies read trouble free.

>>>>

>>>> The zipped file is only 2,5 MB incl. the V6.0 set so no problem to e-mail it.

>>>>

>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

>>>>

>>>> Op 11 nov. 2012 om 23:29 heeft Martin White<martin at guddler.co.uk>  het volgende geschreven:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> IIRC they’re OS/9 floppies - not of Mac OS 9 fame. At the time that I looked before (2008 / 9 maybe?) it was one of the formats that required a purchased license. Obviously that could well have changed by now.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I tried to use Omniflop quite a lot with Acorn BBC / Archimedes disks and I was able to get it to work under XP but I was never able to get the 64bit Windows 7 version to work. I went through a few mails with the developer who didn’t have a 64bit Windows based PC  so all he was able to say was “<insert name>  has got it working but I’ve got no way to test / debug it” so I never got any further with it.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> It was great while it worked but I moved on from Windows XP a long, long time ago now.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> From: Andre Huijts

>>>>> Sent: ‎11‎ ‎November‎ ‎2012 ‎21‎:‎49

>>>>> To: Technical Tools Mail List

>>>>> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] OmniFlop

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I did a test with OmniFlop and it reports that the Fluke floppies have the following format:

>>>>>

>>>>> 80/2/18/512

>>>>>

>>>>> My guess is

>>>>> 80 tracks

>>>>> 2 sides

>>>>> 18 sectors per track

>>>>> 512 bytes per sector

>>>>>

>>>>> I did notice the floppy format was mentioned somewhere in the Fluke docs but I forgot in which....will try to find it but if anyone else already knows......please confirm this is correct or not...

>>>>>

>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

>>>>>

>>>>> Op 11 nov. 2012 om 22:35 heeft Andre Huijts<a.huijts at upcmail.nl>  het volgende geschreven:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Guys,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I found this very promising looking program to back up the Fluke 9100 floppies:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.shlock.co.uk/Utils/OmniFlop/OmniFlop.htm

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I like it because it runs under Windows, yes even W7 and it supports a load of formats, amongst them OS-9 formats.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> As a test I am now backing up the V6.0 disks. If anyone is able to recreate these floppies using OmniFlop and try them on a 9100a that would be great,

>>>>>> I didn't have the time yet to hook up a monitor/ TV.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Instead I dug out my PC which hasn't been used since 2005.....which eventually worked after getting some Raid 0 errors and the videocard loosing power because of what looks like a burnt power connector....

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Anyway, OmniFlop recognizes the Fluke floppies as Gravograph ISIS format, which is a computer controlled engraving machine.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If anyone has a "spare" system they can try out these floppy images on so that we know if OmniFlop works for us that would be great ! :)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

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