[Techtoolslist] Troubleshooting a defective pod

Martin White martin at guddler.co.uk
Sat Feb 2 15:16:10 EST 2013


Actually, please DO top post! Its far, far easier to read on s mobile phone that way :)

-----Original Message-----
From: John Robertson
Sent: 02/02/2013 18:13
To: Technical Tools Mail List
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Troubleshooting a defective pod

Andre Huijts wrote:

> One more thing:

>

> The manual says to do a ROM test and it gives the addresses in the table but it fails to give the correct signature ?

>

> Anyone knows it for the Z80 pod ROM V1.1 ?

>

>

>

Don't Top Post please!

Take the ROM image and pass it through the Signature Generator in the
FIDE generator you can download here:

http://tech.quarterarcade.com/tech/Fluke/9010A/FIDE.aspx


John :-#)#

>

>

> Op 2 feb. 2013, om 15:53 heeft Andre Huijts <a.huijts at upcmail.nl> het volgende geschreven:

>

>

>> OK, I recently traded a working 8088 pod (still have two others) for a working Z80 pod.

>> I also (temporarily) have a 9010A added to my Fluke stuff.

>>

>> Now I figured (like the Z80 pod manual suggests) to troubleshoot my defective Z80 pod with the 2nd working one.

>>

>> The working one self-tests fine on both my 9100A and the 9010A. The defective shows problems on both the 9100A (not recognized please reset) and 9010A.

>>

>>

>> Now....I am confused about the powering up of this set-up.

>>

>> The normal set-up seems to say to do the following when using a "normal" UUT (no pod):

>>

>> 1) power off troubleshooter and UUT

>> 2) connect pod to troubleshooter

>> 3) power on troubleshooter, do self test

>> 4) plug in ribbon cable to UUT

>>

>> So...basically you have to connect the ribbon cable to the UUT while the troubleshooter and POD are powered up ? Feels kind of strange to plug it into the UUT's processor socket while it carries power ?

>>

>>

>> Anyway, next I start reading page 5-12 in the Z80 pod manual and here I get confused:

>>

>> Under "Prepare to troubleshoot the inoperative pod as follows" it says:

>>

>> 3) Connect the pod under test to +5V etc. etc......so here they seem to say to DO power up the "UUT (= the defective pod)" BEFORE turning on the power of the troubleshooter.

>>

>> Step 4) says: Connect a troubleshooter (the 2nd one in my case, the one that will do the troubleshooting) to a 2nd (working) pod, apply power to that troubleshooter and then connect the ribbon cable to the sockpet of the defective pod....

>>

>> So basically, this is the other way around of the normal set-up.....which I find strange.

>>

>> They further cloud things by the next text in BOLD:

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>> "Do not apply or remove any power with ribbon cable connected between second pod and inoperative pod."

>>

>> So this means I should have to first remove the ribbon connector from the socket of the bad pod before turning any troubleshooter off....right ?

>>

>> I fear I already did some switching on/off, basically as if it were to be a regular UUT. The good Z80 pod still self-tests OK so I hope I didn't damage anything.

>>

>> Can someone please tell me what is the right way to do this ?

>>

>> I did see Power failure messages at some point.....

>>

>>

>> André Huijts

>> andre.huijts at upcmail.nl

>>

>>

>>



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