[Techtoolslist] RASTER: M2716A-2F1 datasheet

[Kevin Moore]

I've never had a problem, but then I'm using an old  Data I/O. That
thing never seems to have a problem.

Just yesterday we burned some using a newer Logical Devices X-Pro 5000
So far that's been a good little burner as well.


Kevin.


On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Matthew Rossiter <matt at rossiters.com> wrote:

> So, in continuing this discussion on techtoolslist - I found that I was only

> about to program a couple more 2716a's and the rest failed.  Then I realized

> that sometimes I had to program them two or three times until they finally

> verified correctly.  Has anyone else run into this issue?

>

> Matt

>

>

> On 1/31/2013 10:16 AM, Matthew Rossiter wrote:

>>

>> Oh Boy.  Ok - so these all passed the blank check when they arrived.  But

>> I thought, what the heck I'll run them through the UV eraser just to make

>> sure they're blank.  Now I can program them.

>>

>> As Gilda Radner would say - Nevermind.

>>

>> Matt

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On 1/31/2013 9:51 AM, Matthew Rossiter wrote:

>>>

>>> Well fortunately, these eproms have 21V written on the top of them so

>>> it's not hard to miss.  I'm using a Dataman-48Pro+ where they give you the

>>> specs of a generic 2716A and yes it's set to program at 21v.   I'm not sure

>>> if there's anything special about STMicro's.  Normally what I do is try to

>>> find the datasheet, send it over to Dataman and they usually fix the

>>> problem.  But I can't find a datasheet anywhere on the net.

>>>

>>> There's also the possibility I have some bad devices.  :|   I only did a

>>> quick search but I don't think the Data IO 29B does them either.   I'll

>>> double check.  I'd love to find a datasheet though.

>>>

>>> Matt

>>>

>>> On 1/31/2013 9:27 AM, John Robertson wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Rodger Boots wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> BE CAREFUL, 2716s program using 25 volts but what you have uses 21

>>>>> volts.

>>>>>

>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013 12:16 AM, "Matthew Rossiter" <matt at rossiters.com

>>>>> <mailto:matt at rossiters.com>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>     Does anyone have the datasheet for the ST Microelectronics eprom

>>>>>     M2716A-2F1?  I bought them from Jameco but I can't seem to program

>>>>>     them.  They are fast 200ns eproms.

>>>>>

>>>>>     Matt

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Programming a 21V 2716A (that is what the "A" means) on a 25V programmer

>>>> will normally destroy the Eprom. This is also the difference between the

>>>> 2732 (25V) and 2732A (21V).

>>>>

>>>> If you can't find the exact manufacturer and part number on your list of

>>>> Eproms that came with your programmer then you MUST find out exactly what

>>>> the device needs and then determine what Eprom is closest to it so that its

>>>> algorithm will work before attempting to program it. the devices from the

>>>> 70s were very particular about voltages and timings, devices from the

>>>> mid-80s and later usually to have code inside them that the programmer can

>>>> recognize to figure out the programming voltage(s) required.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> John :-#(#

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>>>

>>>

>>

>

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