[Techtoolslist] Can anyone identify this chip?
    Joe Magiera 
    joemagiera at ameritech.net
       
    Tue Nov 19 21:55:21 EST 2013
    
    
  
That's strange, attachments seem to be getting stripped off.
John, can you check on that?  The picture I originally sent didn't go
through (it was a small 126K file) and the datasheet Rodger attached didn't
go through either (at least it wasn't attached to the message from Rodger I
got).  I thought it was strange that he said he found a datasheet but never
attached it.
Thanks for the feedback you guys!
Joe
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This VTI is VLSI Technology, Inc and is NOT the company bought by Murata.
The Wiki says:  The company was later acquired by Philips and survives to
this day as part of NXP Semiconductors.
What he apparently has is a mask-programmed ROM with oddball chip selects
like the old Bally pinballs used.
I had attached a datasheet yesterday in this thread that wasn't the correct
part, but DID have the correct logo on top of sheet 1 and the full company
name on the bottom of the sheets.
On Nov 19, 2013 7:32 PM, "Clay Cowgill" <c.cowgill at comcast.net> wrote:
> That could be an 8Kx8 EEPROM.  The '2365' part is jogging a memory way 
> in the back of my brain from decades ago while making a 'flash cart' 
> for an Atari 2600 development system. ;-)
>
> I think the VTI part is correct-- the logo on the chip looks like:
> http://www.xsmicro.com/parts/VTI/2365-1181/
>
> Maybe try reading it like a 28C64?
>
> I'd wager a guess that it was the same place Murata bought, but back 
> when they started out they were just making crosses for other 
> manufacturers to get a start before doing their own stuff.  (So like 
> Sipex and Macronix that started off making Maxim RS232 chip copies and 
> commodity EPROMs as a way to pay for their R&D of their own stuff 
> which would eventually take over the
> catalog.)
>
> -Clay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com
> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Magiera
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 5:26 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Can anyone identify this chip?
>
> Hmmm... I can see I attached a pic, but it didn't get through.  Sorry 
> about that.  I have posted the pic here:
>
> http://www.tollianweb.com/uc/vti.jpg
>
> It's IC 1N from an Exidy 440 PCB (Whodunit in this case).  I'd really 
> like to identify the manufacturer.  I looked at several IC logo web 
> sites and nothing comes up.  It's in a bank of 2764's and supposedly 
> supposed to be able to be read as a 2764, but my EETools Top Max is unable
to read it.
> Really a mystery to me why I can't find this symbol at all (and why if 
> it is equivalant to a 2764 my reader can't read it).  It's not a bad 
> chip as the game boots up and passes all self tests without any 
> complaining.
>
> If anyone might be able to identify what IC is on 6K on the same 
> boardset type, that would be appreciated too.  On my board, it's a 
> National 74S28(x) where "x" is either a 7 or an 8, but it's overlayed 
> with an Exidy part number stamp.  National 74S287 crosses to an MMI 
> 6301 (Signetics 82S129) and a 74S288 crosses to a MMI 6331 (Signetics 
> 82S123).
>
> Trying to dump a Whodunit ROM version that's not in MAME.  Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
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