[Techtoolslist] wanted asteroids Signature-Analysis for the cat box

[John Robertson]

On 06/16/2016 6:16 PM, tonyhtbsusa wrote:
> I have the hp sig sheet for asteroids
> How to divide them
> I used a hex calculator
> Like I said it did not have p on it
> So how can I convert the hp to Atari
> I think the division is 3
> Thanks tony
I think you want to divide the clock by 2 to get the Atari signatures - 
so you won't need to convert them. Or am I still not getting it?

Here is one discussion on the problem:

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/archive/index.php/t-200931.html

Obviously I have a lot to learn about signatures - haven't used them in 
years...

John :-#)#
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> box
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> Yep you need a clock divider. There should be Docs out there with the HP
> sigs somewhere.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:02 PM, John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, of course I could be wrong - I haven't run SA on an Asteroids
>> board in the past five or so years, and today found a good one in my
>> box'o boards and didn't need to again.
>>
>> I haven't used the CAT box (still have two of these - a regular one,
>> and a
>> prototype) in years as I have a nice HP Signature Multimeter (5005A)
>> that I use instead when I need to run SA tests, and (AIR) I simply
>> used the Atari signature from that sheet to repair the boards. However
>> it has been years since I last tried and could easily be wrong...
>>
>> John :-#)#
>>
>>
>> On 06/16/2016 4:19 PM, Tony Jones wrote:
>>
>>> I don't believe this is true.  Normally you need to divide the clock
>>> to use a HP but get signatures that match the Atari docs,  since the
>>> CAT box can perform a NOP in a single clock.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:07 PM, John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Atari (and Kurz Kasch) used the HP signatures - so if you are not
>>>> getting the same results make sure the signatures you have are
>>>> correct for the game.
>>>> It is always possible you are looking at Asteroids DELUXE signatures
>>>> for example...
>>>>
>>>> I am attaching some info that may help.
>>>>
>>>> John :-#)#
>>>>
>>>> On 06/16/2016 3:10 PM, tonyhtbsusa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> asteroids Signature-Analysis cat box
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I dug out the cat box
>>>>>
>>>>> And am trying to fix a board with a problem in the state machine
>>>>>
>>>>> I found the hp asteroids Signature-Analysis
>>>>>
>>>>> But they do not match
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have the Atari cat box asteroids Signature sheet
>>>>>
>>>>> Also any of the   Signature-Analysis for the cat box
>>>>>
>>>>> Would be great also
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks tony
>>>>>
>>>>> hi-tech
>>>>>
>>>>> Arcade repair
>>>>>
>>>>>
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