[Techtoolslist] 9100FT Programmer’s Keyboard

[Andrew Finn]

Ian

It will have a masked Rom inside the 8031, it will have no separate rom, roms were only in the special keyboards made for other things other than pc's. Not as simple as you think to change, not only the keys will emit different hex codes to the fluke keys, the baud rate will also need to be slowed down a lot! 

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> On 6 Oct 2017, at 9:09 pm, Ian Eure <ian at retrospec.tv> wrote:
> 
> Great info, thanks for sharing.  I just bought a KB101 I found on eBay.  When it gets here, I’ll see if it can be converted.  Sure would be great news if it’s just swapping in the EPROM from the Fluke model.
> 
> Can someone open the 9100A keyboard?  I’d like to see what’s in those, too.
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Andrew Finn via Techtoolslist <techtoolslist at flippers.com> wrote:
>> 
>> WOW many thanks for taking the time and trouble to take and upload the pics of the unit, was very interesting! I emailed keytronics for information or the rom data but as expected they don't have any info now earlier than 2000 so that's out the window!!
>> 
>> It is a copy of a keytronics KB101 early keyboard and with the detailed pics have started mapping the keys to the fluke, I am also looking into getting a modern keyboard made with these fluke key legends on them, it has rekindled me to look into all this and devise a pic chip to change the baud rate so a modern keyboard can be used, now I have done the fluke video cards I still need a keyboard so this has inspired me to look into it all again!
>> Getting hold of those old style clicky keyboards seems a very expensive exercise!! But there are company's that will print anything you want on key caps for them, so even that is a option if KB101 keyboards can be found!!
>> 
>> The project goes on!!!!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>>> On 4 Oct 2017, at 2:07 am, Ian Eure <ian at retrospec.tv> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:21 PM, John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2017/10/03 5:05 PM, Ian Eure wrote:
>>>>> I finally tracked down a Programmer’s Keyboard for my 9100.  I don’t
>>>>> know how widely it’s known, but there were two different versions
>>>>> of the keyboard.  The only photos I’ve seen are the earlier model,
>>>>> which meant that I almost let this one slip away.  It was on eBay, new
>>>>> old stock, for $36 shipped!
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the info is in the manuals, if you look.  I had always wondered
>>>>> why the keyboard illustrations in the Programmer’s Manual didn’t match
>>>>> the photos of the keyboard I’d seen.  It’s because I read scans of a
>>>>> later (1991) printing, which has illustrations of the later revision
>>>>> of the keyboard.  I haven’t seen a 1988 printing, but I bet it shows
>>>>> the earlier keyboard layout.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The various 9100 service manuals list different part numbers:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 9100A Supplemental Parts List (May 1988), fig. 5-21, p. 5-53
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Lists p/n 5-64995-131.  This seems to be the more common version of
>>>>> the keyboard.  It has a block of (mostly) 2u keys on the far right,
>>>>> angled RETURN key, and arrows by the SHIFT and RETURN keys.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Photo: https://i.imgur.com/undefined.png
>>>> Broken link.
>>> 
>>> Here’s what I was trying to share: http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6456.0;attach=11160
>>> 
>>> I’d be interested to know what’s inside one of these, maybe it uses normal switches and could be used to reproduce one.
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