[Techtoolslist] Need a new mail-list host for TTL! - Solved!

[John Robertson]

Hi Folks,

Brad and I have been working towards his hosting TTL on his server's 
Mailman3. So don't be surprised if you get a welcoming email tonight or 
tomorrow saying something like "Welcome to Tech Tools List" and that you 
will need to set a new password...

We didn't transfer across the settings, so folks who want a Daily Digest 
will have to set that option again by sending an email with a blank 
body, subject line "XXX", to listserve-XXX...

The archives back to 2005 should be available sooner or later later, 
they have been grabbed.

I hope this works, and thanks Bard for offering to host and set this up!

John :-#)#

On 2025-09-25 8:53 a.m., Brad Gass wrote:
> I would also be fine with making a contribution toward a list serv annual cost, but I'm not sure how many would be willing to contribute or if as a group we could consistently get to the $220 annual fee?
>
> Although I run several low-volume internet facing services (and have for many years), a list server is one thing I have *not* ever run.  I'm not afraid of delving into it if that is the most viable option, and Mailman 3 actually looks pretty slick in general.
>
> Where / how it's hosted isn't really a problem (I'm becoming increasingly impressed with the value/performance of Hetzner services).  But it is likely a fair bit of work to get setup and going initially, so I think it would need to be much clearer that was going to be the path needed before really digging in deep.
>
> --Brad
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Stillwell" <ki4swy at gmail.com>
> To: "jrr" <jrr at flippers.com>, "Technical Tools Mail List" <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2025 10:34:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Need a new mail-list host for TTL!
>
> That's a lot cheaper then what it costs me to run romident.coinopflorida.com
> ( $1200/year )
>
> they need to come up with a list server where members pay to be a part of
> it, instead of the host trying to recoup costs from members. I would be
> happy to pay $5/year to keep this list going.
>
> William Stillwell
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 10:28 AM John Robertson via Techtoolslist <
> techtoolslist at flippers.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2025-09-25 5:28 a.m., William Stillwell wrote:
>>> BOOOOOOO....
>>>
>>> Groups.IO Pricing
>>> $0.44/member (min $220/year) billed annually (1 month free)
>>>
>>> there is also googlegroups ( which is freee... HOWEVER, the caveat is
>>> if used for Business ) it's NOT free... unless your a non-profit...
>>>
>>> How many people are on the list John?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> groups.io <http://groups.io>
>>>
>>> William Stillwell
>>>
>> Yeah, after setting this up way back in Nov 1999 to have it killed off
>> now (expiry Jan 1, 2026) is tiresome.
>>
>> /Over time, the free PairList mailing list program (based on GNU
>> Mailman) has become unreliable as most mail hosts now require strict
>> email validation standards (SPF, DKIM, DMARC). PairList cannot support
>> these features, causing messages to be delayed, marked as spam, or
>> rejected. Because of this declining reliability, we believe the service
>> no longer meets our standards and will be discontinued./
>>
>> /PairList has served our users well for many years. While we are sad to
>> retire it, we are exploring a more reliable replacement service for the
>> future./
>>
>> We are currently under Mailman 2.1.39
>>
>> I'm not sure if I'd want to be under Googlegroups - they mine
>> everything...the less I give them the happier I am.
>>
>> We have 172 members, so groups.io would want $220USD/year.
>>
>> John :-#(#
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 1:45 AM John Robertson via Techtoolslist
>>> <techtoolslist at flippers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>      Hi folks,
>>>
>>>      I just got a note from my hosts at Pair.com that they are dropping
>>>      mailists and that I need to migrate TTL to another mail list
>>>      service...
>>>
>>>      Anyone have any suggestions?
>>>
>>>      I could change to groups.io <http://groups.io> I suppose - I would
>>>      still maintain the FTP
>>>      directory on flippers FTP site.
>>>
>>>      Anyway, just posting this out there...
>>>
>>>      John :-#)#
>>>
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