SPAM-LOW: RE: [casual_games] surprising stats about casual gaming

[Juan Gril]

Is it possible that among the audience who buys Games there aren't a lot of
people who can be compared to "film buffs" or "international film festival
attendants"?

Is it possible that games like Oasis don't make a lot of money because the
hardcore of the hardcore gamers will not buy a game that is not at least
modestly featured in Edge Magazine or Electronic Gaming Monthly? After all,
the current "king" of alternative game design is Katamari Damacy, a game
published by one of the largest videogame companies.

Or is it because Oasis is not as fun as Katamari Damacy? Is Geometry Wars a
better game than Oasis, or has it been a bigger hit because it was published
on the right platform? Or was it because the guys at EGM thought it was the
reason to own an Xbox360?

Cheers,

Juan


 

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Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [casual_games] surprising stats about casual gaming


>Casual users are not turned off merely by the perception that a game can
>offer a long play session (I would argue this may even be considered
>valuable) but rather by the perception of the overall complexity that
>must be mastered in order for them to achieve a feeling of competence
>and accomplishment.

This was always my assessment of Oasis (http://www.oasisgame.com/)... 
a game which I REALLY enjoy (even to this day, 2-3 years after it's
release).

I thought the folk(s) at Mind Control (i.e. Andrew Leker) really 
created something that was easy to play (i.e. every action in the 
game only takes "one click" depending on the context/current_state of 
what you were clicking on) yet the game had tremendous strategic 
depth in it's overall implementation.

However, after having played it for 4-5 hours initially, I took a 
step back and asked myself "Who is most likely going to buy this?" - 
in other words, is it too simplistic "looking" for the core gamer, 
yet too strategically complex for the casual player?


Andrew said as much in his Gamasutra postmortem 
(http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20050610/leker_01.shtml):

>The first person with whom I shared the design principles of Oasis 
>loved it. He didn't think that the game would be commercially 
>viable, but he said he'd be the first to play it if it was 
>available. This was to be the catchphrase of Oasis, "I don't know 
>who'd buy this game besides me and my friends." As a businessman, I 
>thought it best that I put Oasis on hold...


The fact that Andrew recognized this fact is a tremendous credit to 
him and his team because (in the end) I thought that he took some 
excellent steps in the game's final implementation to try and ease 
the "learning curve" and to teach the game's core mechanics gradually 
to the players. However, even today, people are constantly arguing on 
the game's forums about the formulas for success are in playing the 
game and what the "sure fire" tactics/strategies to success are...

See this forum: 
http://community.oasisgame.com/index.php?s=9d893fc86804a01ba23e1edc6fb20977&
showforum=10 


That general debate over the game's underlying systems/rules probably 
lends itself to the average player NOT possessing that "perception of 
the overall complexity that must be mastered in order for them to 
achieve a feeling of competence and accomplishment" (as Dave said)... 
It's not entirely obvious to the player as to the interdependencies 
of certain actions and the expenditure of resources in the game... it 
takes quite a bit of trial and error before the player learns the 
strategies which "usually" work in the game, and depending on how the 
game board was generated (at random) sometimes those strategies won't 
pan out, so there often is failure there. In the end, learning these 
strategies and becoming a decent player at Oasis most likely will 
longer than the 60 minute trial period, I would say... and perhaps 
that hurt Oasis in the Casual Gaming space?

I don't know, because I'm not sure how well the game performed for 
Andrew and Mind Control Software in the marketplace. Either way, I 
love the game and I think there is a place for strategic games of 
Oasis' ilk in this space, when implemented properly, I have no doubt 
about that...  and Oasis did MANY things right, because I know that I 
learned an awful lot *from* playing it.

- Jamie

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