[casual_games] BangOutGames

[Tim Turner]

When described as 1k a week it certainly sounds a bit wonky.  But if you
take a more strategic look it isn't hard to see valid ways they could arrive
at that pay schedule.  1.5 million to build a portfolio of games, strategic
plan to attack a certain quality/scope in the marketplace, and some MBA mojo
that believes a portfolio should have X,Y,Z composition...  Bang!  60k
budget per title.  Wait!  Professional developers won't build games like
this on that budget?  Unproven amateur teams would do it but the risk is
pretty high.  Rather than commit to a full development deal- dole out weekly
checks to limit our exposure.  Put up a website, ready, set, BANG OUT GAMES!

Sorry for the stream of consciousness post.  I am on hour 25 of a self
induced push to hit a milestone...

Luck!


-----Original Message-----
From: casual_games-bounces at igda.org [mailto:casual_games-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Austin Haas
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:14 AM
To: IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [casual_games] BangOutGames


Apologies for replying to myself, but I'd like to submit Kongregate's offer
for comparison:
http://www.kongregate.com/pages/premium

They will fund your game from between $20-100K, for one year of exclusive
rights. I think anyone would agree that 1 year of exclusivity is a helluva
lot better for the developer than 3, but what's more important to me is that
they are funding you an amount of money based on the scope of the game that
you are pitching, not this seemingly arbitrary $1000/wk. 

-austin

-- 
Austin Haas
Pet Tomato, Inc.
http://pettomato.com

On Wed Oct 03 08:27 , Austin Haas wrote:

> 

> The FAQ mentions royalties, but doesn't give any indication how much they

might be.

> 

> My personal opinion is that it sounds like an incredibly bad deal. We are

a very small and lean developer and there is no way we could survive on
these terms. I mean, $52K for a game that is supposed to take 12 weeks to
develop??? 

> 

> I've tried to determine a scenario where this might make sense for

someone, but I can't. Even if there is some multi-talented savant, straight
out of college, who can do the entire game by himself, he would necessarily
have enough talent to do far better than this deal.

> 

> -austin

> 

> -- 

> Austin Haas

> Pet Tomato, Inc.

> http://pettomato.com

> 

> On Wed Oct 03 11:42 , Gorm Lai wrote:

> > Hi all,

> > 

> >  

> > 

> > First I would like to announce, that after, for various reasons, having

been

> > mostly a lurker on this list, I have now co-founded a new casual/indie

game

> > studio called 3 Lives Left and left my comfortable seat in the AAA

world.

> > 

> >  

> > 

> > I was thinking, what do you think about http://www.bangoutgames.com/?

> > 

> >  

> > 

> > It only seems like a good idea for extremely small developers (at least

if

> > you got the living expenses of a Copenhagener..). 

> > 

> > How successful are their sales channels? If we make a good game, should

we

> > expect anything beyond the weekly $1000?

> > 

> > The catch is that providing the weekly $1000 for up to 12 weeks, they

get

> > the distribution right for your game for the next 3 years.

> > 

> >  

> > 

> > Cheers and thanks,

> > 

> > Gorm

> > 

> >  

> > 

> 

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