[games_access] idea GamesCom 2010: a IGDA GA-SIG stand

[D. Michelle Hinn]

Ok, thanks Sandra! I'll see what the details are with this. GDC  
Europe 2010 is also attached to this so there may be some "double"  
permissions we need but it could be possible. I also need to check  
with the IGDA about representation -- not sure if the organization  
already has a booth.

I'm assuming that you are planning to attend this again? Anyone else  
on the list planning to attend (I know...it's a LONG time away)? If  
you think you might or know that you are already going to attend,  
please email me off list at hinn at uiuc.edu so that I can get an idea  
of who is interested, who has what to show at a booth space, who we'd  
need to partner with for equipment, etc.

Michelle

On Nov 8, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Sandra Uhling wrote:

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>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-
>> bounces at igda.org] Im Auftrag von D. Michelle Hinn
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. November 2009 19:04
>> An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>> Betreff: Re: [games_access] idea GamesCom 2010: a IGDA GA-SIG stand
>>
>> Thanks, Sandra!
>>
>> I will contact the person in charge.
>>
>> As to hidden costs...those are the ones you learn about once it's too
>> late to back out! ;) That's what's happened to me in the past. In the
>> US each state has different labor union requirements.
>>
>> Anyway, I'll do a little digging -- do you know off-hand what the  
>> dates
>> are for that?
>>
>> Michelle
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> sorry I do answer little bit late.
>>>
>>> There should be no hidden cost.
>>> I think there should be no problem at all.
>>>
>>> @Michelle I will send you two contact data:
>>> * the person who organize it
>>> * a person who had a stand there this year (gameparents e.V.)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sandra
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-
>>>> bounces at igda.org] Im Auftrag von D. Michelle Hinn
>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 21:40
>>>> An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>>> Betreff: Re: [games_access] idea GamesCom 2010: a IGDA GA-SIG stand
>>>>
>>>> Hi Sandra,
>>>>
>>>> That sounds interesting -- what are the costs associated with it?
>>>> I've done this before at other gaming conferences and have lost
>>>> literally thousand of dollars due to hidden costs (such as the
>>>> carpeting for the booth having to be paid to one company, the table
>>>> going to another company, and so forth). So we'd definitely need to
>>>> find out about that -- the last time I did this was sort of the  
>>>> last
>>>> straw for me, as I lost over $5000 personally because the SIG  
>>>> has no
>>>> funds and I was forced to cover it AT the conference. Also, we  
>>>> would
>>>> need to partner with many groups, as the SIG itself "owns" no
>>>> accessibility equipment, which is very important to show. And those
>>>> companies that make them (as well as most companies that make games
>>>> in this area) are not non-profits.
>>>>
>>>> The SIG is a non-profit of sorts if we go through the IGDA
>> Foundation
>>>> but I'm not sure that that "counts" in the EU -- I'd have to
>>>> investigate this. That is why we could not participate in Thomas
>>>> Westin's EU proposal -- we could not make that case quickly enough
>>>> since there were only days before the deadline. We also, as an
>>>> organization, are here to support game developers WITH disabilities
>>>> so that also is a source of great confusion when it comes to our
>> non-
>>>> profit status.
>>>>
>>>> The trouble is that "non-profit" is a legal term and I'm not sure
>>>> what proof that they would need to count us as such. AbleGamers,  
>>>> for
>>>> instance, is a legal non-profit in the US but is not yet a non-
>> profit
>>>> outside the US. So anything you can find out would be very helpful!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Michelle
>>>> Chair, IGDA Game Accessibility SIG
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> just an idea:
>>>>> We have a very nice "non-profit" area at the GamesCom.
>>>>> What do you think about it, that this SIG will have a stand there?
>>>>> It would be a small place and there are lots of other non-profit
>>>>> organizations.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do have contact to the person who organize it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Sandra
>>>>>
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