[games_access] Checklist for GA reviews, austrian ministry

[Thomas Westin]

Sandra,

although I agree that better descriptions could help, I'm not sure exactly in what way you mean it needs a description?  For instance, scalable fonts is pretty clear I think.

Best wishes,
Thomas

--Do("orDoNot(" & QUOTE & "there is no try{}" & QUOTE & ")") 





On 24Nov 2010, at 4:56 PM, Sandra Uhling wrote:


> Hi Tara,

> 

> the Top Ten list has to be updated and it really needs a description.

> Of course it is very easy to understand, when you know what is behind it.

> But for people who read it, they do not know what is behind it.

> 

> Best regards,

> Sandra

> 

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im

> Auftrag von Tara Tefertiller

> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. November 2010 16:49

> An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List

> Betreff: Re: [games_access] Checklist for GA reviews, austrian ministry

> 

> Sandra,

> 

> The problem with having an all encompassing checklist for checking  

> game accessibility is that one list can't accurately cover everything  

> in all games, because so many games are so different, with out just  

> being something generic like our top ten list.  I think the top ten  

> list is something that is easy to understand and can be tested with  

> little accessibility training- which I feel is the case with the  

> Austrian ministry.

> 

> I feel they wouldn't do the type of testing you're speaking of. I  

> think the amount of time and knowledge that would be required to do  

> full game testing on every title would make it unlikely to be adopted  

> by any organization that plans on doing ratings.

> 

> Also, since accessibility would be new to any rating system, I think  

> started simpler with something that is easier to check and then  

> making it more efficient and complex over time as people learn about  

> accessibility would be the most useful, and make it more likely to be  

> implemented in the first place.

> 

> -Tara

> 

> 

> On Nov 24, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Thomas Westin wrote:

> 

>> yes I realize that checking the settings is not a complete way of  

>> evaluating accessibility, but at least it provides the buyer with  

>> information that there are such settings or not, which is better  

>> than no info at all. If the features are well done is of course  

>> another level, but I doubt that there are resources to check every  

>> game on that level.

>> 

>> Best wishes,

>> Thomas

>> 

>> --Do("orDoNot(" & QUOTE & "there is no try{}" & QUOTE & ")")

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On 24Nov 2010, at 2:50 PM, Sandra Uhling wrote:

>> 

>>> Hi Thomas,

>>> 

>>> my experience is that you have to test the whole game.

>>> Or you are lucky and the publisher knows it very well.

>>> 

>>> Sometimes there is a sound-only or a color-only puzzle.

>>> Or a very hard time based puzzle. But very often you do not

>>> notice these difficulties.

>>> 

>>> Also there is the information: subtitle, the quality can be very bad.

>>> (You see lots of B ratings, but very seldom A rating at  

>>> deafgamers.com)

>>> 

>>> 

>>> I put the update of the Top Ten list with an "easy to understand"

>>> description on my todo list.

>>> 

>>> Best regards,

>>> Sandra

>>> 

>>> 

>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

>>> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access- 

>>> bounces at igda.org] Im

>>> Auftrag von Thomas Westin

>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2010 23:07

>>> An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List

>>> Betreff: Re: [games_access] Checklist for GA reviews, austrian  

>>> ministry

>>> 

>>> Hi Sandra,

>>> 

>>> the top ten list we made years ago could work, it is generic  

>>> enough, so you

>>> would just need to check the settings of the game to see what  

>>> options are

>>> available to rate it,

>>> - except for #8 audio tags, which needs some in-game checking but  

>>> could be

>>> enough to check at some random places of the game, not the entire  

>>> game

>>> 

>>> http://tim.thechases.com/top10_2.pdf

>>> 

>>> Best wishes,

>>> Thomas

>>> 

>>> --Do("orDoNot(" & QUOTE & "there is no try{}" & QUOTE & ")")

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> On 23Nov 2010, at 4:13 PM, Sandra Uhling wrote:

>>> 

>>>> Hello,

>>>> 

>>>> one Austrian ministry rates games. They would like to add Game

>>> Accessibility

>>>> to this rating. Do we have information? Is there a checklist  

>>>> available?

>>>> 

>>>> I do not have any information about this.

>>>> I think it is very difficult and lot of work to test a game.

>>>> 

>>>> E.g. you need to know if there is a sound that is important.

>>>> So usually you have to play the whole game.

>>>> And you have to care for lots of different things.

>>>> 

>>>> Best regards,

>>>> Sandra

>>>> 

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