[games_access] Web site
Michelle Hinn
hinn at uiuc.edu
Thu Oct 21 08:57:13 EDT 2010
Hey Aaron and everyone who wants to help with the website for the SIG --
Once we have the steering committee in another week or so, they would be the first to contact about forming a committee for the website. So for now just keep your ideas coming! And ideas about the website seem perfect to talk about on the list! So please keep talking about what could be on it.
As for AbleGamers and other sites, don't worry too much. Obviously having something as robust as they and others have is simply reinventing the wheel. On the SIG site, we need our whitepapers, notes from online meetings, committees that outline projects that the SIG is involved with and annotated links (ie, describe the content with a sentence or so and rather than just have a bullet point set of links). Our role as a SIG is to help promote everything we can to help game accessibility -- so we can help promote articles, research, etc.
It should basically be a place to point other IGDA members to learn more by helping get them to great content news sites like AbleGamers.
There's no competition -- just promotion about the topic! So I don't see that being a conflict of interest.
Michelle
On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:56 AM, BlazeEagle wrote:
> To avoid cluttering this mailing list, Who do I contact off list about this? I have no professional credentials & I can't guarantee anything cause I've only fiddled around with my personal hobbyist site but I could give it a shot.
>
> It's greatly encouraging that this is intended to be a team effort!
>
> What will differentiate this from Able Gamers? As full disclosure, I've written about two or three short articles for them so far as a volunteer & am working on another.
>
> Aaron
>
> From: games_access-request at igda.org
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:54 PM
> To: games_access at igda.org
> Subject: games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 21
>
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> 1. Re: Webite (Michelle Hinn)
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>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:54:09 -0500
> From: Michelle Hinn <hinn at uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [games_access] Webite
> To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List <games_access at igda.org>
> Message-ID: <14B2C506-7EED-4DAB-875F-177BA9CD7F9E at uiuc.edu>
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> Time? As much as one can put into it, basically! :)
>
> As of right now, we are located on the wiki, the IGDA's main site, and our blog (that Barrie maintains) -- the main issue is just adding content about projects and information on game accessibility. Not too much tech knowhow is needed -- and for those without it they can get help from others. Basically the SIG just needs people committed to at least making sure there's even a monthly update once we get it built up again. But Ideally someone who can maintain it at least once a week would be great.
>
> It's really not meant for a single person to do -- it's supposed to be collaborative. And it doesn't need to be extensive. It can be... but we have to figure out what the purpose of the website is for the SIG. After all, there are sites like AbleGamers and Special Effect that handle things like reviews and news. Turning the SIG website into another version of either of those groups wouldn't make much sense and time would be better used elsewhere, such as maintaining the Wiki and Blog.
>
> The SIGs website should definitely be something addressed as soon as possible once the new steering committee (who will choose the chair from amongst themselves) is selected.
>
> Michelle
>
> On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:37 PM, BlazeEagle wrote:
>
> > How much time, effort & tech expertise is required to maintain IGDA's website?
> >
> > Aaron
> > From: games_access-request at igda.org
> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 4:47 PM
> > To: games_access at igda.org
> > Subject: games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 18
> >
> > Send games_access mailing list submissions to
> > games_access at igda.org
> >
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> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > games_access-request at igda.org
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > games_access-owner at igda.org
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of games_access digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Website (Michelle Hinn)
> > 2. Re: games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
> > (thomas at pininteractive.com)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 13:38:31 -0500
> > From: Michelle Hinn <hinn at uiuc.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [games_access] Website
> > To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List <games_access at igda.org>
> > Message-ID: <4DAA35D9-FA1C-47DA-897E-DF6DF18683EC at uiuc.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > A few other SIGs have just moved to other places on the web, outside the IGDA site. Even if we could just get them to post a link (if redirecting is somehow too difficult) to whatever system the new steering committee (when elections start) decide on, that would be better than nothing. Then we can have a more robust system that everyone can access.
> >
> > Believe me... I'm as frustrated as all of you who have been trying to help revamp the SIG's online presence. Things started really falling apart when one board member resigned two years ago and he was in charge of the web tech. Now so much is in limbo. I know things are in the process of being fixed but without someone who is a full time employee of the IGDA to focus on that (I don't think they have one yet -- just volunteers like the rest of us) things won't move very fast.
> >
> > It's a shame because there was so much time and money put into the "new" system and when it rolled out after five years of waiting, the human side of the system left and it's the big pink virtual elephant in the room for many SIG and Chapter leaders...
> >
> > Michelle
> >
> > On Oct 17, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Barrie Ellis wrote:
> >
> > > Definitely something to consider, Aaron - it's a good call. We've been using blogger with shared access for some time now, so perhaps some of the free hosting solutions for collaborations will be the way forward. If we can simply get a redirect from www.igda.org/accessibility to something we can access, with their blessing, that would be a good start!
> > >
> > > Barrie
> > >
> > >
> > > From: BlazeEagle
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 9:02 PM
> > > To: games_access at igda.org
> > > Subject: Re: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
> > >
> > > Would Google groups be a possible solution? -
> > > http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&pli=1
> > >
> > > I don't know the specifics because I have no experience with Google Groups but figure I'd suggest that just in case.
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > > Peace & God bless you all, Amen.
> > > From: games_access-request at igda.org
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:00 AM
> > > To: games_access at igda.org
> > > Subject: games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
> > >
> > > Send games_access mailing list submissions to
> > > games_access at igda.org
> > >
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> > > games_access-request at igda.org
> > >
> > > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > > games_access-owner at igda.org
> > >
> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > > than "Re: Contents of games_access digest..."
> > >
> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. Questions about this SIG (Sandra Uhling)
> > > 2. Re: Questions about this SIG (Michelle Hinn)
> > > 3. Re: Questions about this SIG (Sandra Uhling)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:22:56 +0200
> > > From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
> > > Subject: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
> > > To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
> > > <games_access at igda.org>
> > > Message-ID: <000001cb6c85$3a290c90$ae7b25b0$@de>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
> > > but do not want to join the email list?
> > >
> > > Do we have subgroups?
> > > http://www.igda.org/accessibility
> > > It looks like that we have two subgroups:
> > > One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
> > > Disabilities"
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Sandra
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:31:10 -0500
> > > From: Michelle Hinn <hinn at uiuc.edu>
> > > Subject: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
> > > To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List <games_access at igda.org>
> > > Message-ID: <431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > yes -- it's accessibility at igda.org
> > >
> > > we've been having trouble with the website -- we've had more subgroups and that's something that would be good for the new steering committee to discuss (and those running to discuss their ideas here for voters). i cannot access the website to add anything, nor can barrie and many others. i've asked that the igda look into this many times but i've kind of lost steam on that because we never get any resolution. i know other sigs are also having trouble.
> > >
> > > past subgroups have included "research" "game development" "industry relations" etc
> > >
> > > due to health concerns, i am not going to run at all -- but i will still be serving as chair emeritus to help the new committee understand about the sig past and what contacts and resources we have. my immune system has crashed and that causes all my joints to seize up when that happens. :(
> > >
> > > michelle
> > >
> > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
> > > > but do not want to join the email list?
> > > >
> > > > Do we have subgroups?
> > > > http://www.igda.org/accessibility
> > > > It looks like that we have two subgroups:
> > > > One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
> > > > Disabilities"
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Sandra
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > games_access mailing list
> > > > games_access at igda.org
> > > > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:10:07 +0200
> > > From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
> > > Subject: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
> > > To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
> > > <games_access at igda.org>
> > > Message-ID: <000801cb6c94$3326ede0$9974c9a0$@de>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > thanks for the information Michelle,
> > >
> > > Can we still use and edit this wiki?
> > > http://wiki.igda.org/Game_Accessibility_SIG
> > >
> > > Maybe we can update it step by step, after the selection?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Sandra
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im
> > > Auftrag von Michelle Hinn
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Oktober 2010 19:31
> > > An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
> > > Betreff: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
> > >
> > > yes -- it's accessibility at igda.org
> > >
> > > we've been having trouble with the website -- we've had more subgroups and
> > > that's something that would be good for the new steering committee to
> > > discuss (and those running to discuss their ideas here for voters). i cannot
> > > access the website to add anything, nor can barrie and many others. i've
> > > asked that the igda look into this many times but i've kind of lost steam on
> > > that because we never get any resolution. i know other sigs are also having
> > > trouble.
> > >
> > > past subgroups have included "research" "game development" "industry
> > > relations" etc
> > >
> > > due to health concerns, i am not going to run at all -- but i will still be
> > > serving as chair emeritus to help the new committee understand about the sig
> > > past and what contacts and resources we have. my immune system has crashed
> > > and that causes all my joints to seize up when that happens. :(
> > >
> > > michelle
> > >
> > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
> > > > but do not want to join the email list?
> > > >
> > > > Do we have subgroups?
> > > > http://www.igda.org/accessibility
> > > > It looks like that we have two subgroups:
> > > > One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
> > > > Disabilities"
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Sandra
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > games_access mailing list
> > > > games_access at igda.org
> > > > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > games_access mailing list
> > > games_access at igda.org
> > > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > games_access mailing list
> > > games_access at igda.org
> > > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> > >
> > >
> > > End of games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
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> > >
> > >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 22:37:06 +0200
> > From: "thomas at pininteractive.com" <thomas at pininteractive.com>
> > Subject: Re: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
> > To: BlazeEagle <blazeeagle at suddenlink.net>, IGDA Games Accessibility
> > SIGMailing List <games_access at igda.org>
> > Message-ID: <AEB19E49-5CEC-4F82-860F-82BD5C613A85 at pininteractive.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I have used Google groups; it is OK but G have made it a bit less easy to use since they removed file upload; instead you can use Google Sites or Code for that of course
> >
> > Also, while there are shared documents in Groups, Google Docs is a better solution for that
> >
> > Hence, I would vote for using Google Sites for web prescence in general, and Docs for shared document editing. For peer communication we already have this list
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Thomas
> >
> > (Sent from my mobile)
> >
> > On 16 okt 2010, at 21:57, "BlazeEagle" <blazeeagle at suddenlink.net<mailto:blazeeagle at suddenlink.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Would Google groups be a possible solution? -
> > <http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&pli=1>http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&pli=1
> >
> > I don't know the specifics because I have no experience with Google Groups but figure I'd suggest that just in case.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> > Peace & God bless you all, Amen.
> > From: <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org> games_access-request at igda.org<mailto:games_access-request at igda.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:00 AM
> > To: <mailto:games_access at igda.org> games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org>
> > Subject: games_access Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
> >
> > Send games_access mailing list submissions to
> > <mailto:games_access at igda.org>games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org>
> >
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > <http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access>http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > <mailto:games_access-request at igda.org>games_access-request at igda.org<mailto:games_access-request at igda.org>
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > <mailto:games_access-owner at igda.org>games_access-owner at igda.org<mailto:games_access-owner at igda.org>
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of games_access digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Questions about this SIG (Sandra Uhling)
> > 2. Re: Questions about this SIG (Michelle Hinn)
> > 3. Re: Questions about this SIG (Sandra Uhling)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:22:56 +0200
> > From: "Sandra Uhling" <<mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>sandra_uhling at web.de<mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>>
> > Subject: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
> > To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
> > <<mailto:games_access at igda.org>games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org>>
> > Message-ID: <000001cb6c85$3a290c90$ae7b25b0$@de<mailto:000001cb6c85$3a290c90$ae7b25b0$@de>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
> > but do not want to join the email list?
> >
> > Do we have subgroups?
> > <http://www.igda.org/accessibility>http://www.igda.org/accessibility
> > It looks like that we have two subgroups:
> > One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
> > Disabilities"
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Sandra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:31:10 -0500
> > From: Michelle Hinn <<mailto:hinn at uiuc.edu>hinn at uiuc.edu<mailto:hinn at uiuc.edu>>
> > Subject: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
> > To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List <<mailto:games_access at igda.org>games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org>>
> > Message-ID: <<mailto:431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu>431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu<mailto:431DF61B-C3B5-44BB-830E-4C30B02D735A at uiuc.edu>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > yes -- it's <mailto:accessibility at igda.org> accessibility at igda.org<mailto:accessibility at igda.org>
> >
> > we've been having trouble with the website -- we've had more subgroups and that's something that would be good for the new steering committee to discuss (and those running to discuss their ideas here for voters). i cannot access the website to add anything, nor can barrie and many others. i've asked that the igda look into this many times but i've kind of lost steam on that because we never get any resolution. i know other sigs are also having trouble.
> >
> > past subgroups have included "research" "game development" "industry relations" etc
> >
> > due to health concerns, i am not going to run at all -- but i will still be serving as chair emeritus to help the new committee understand about the sig past and what contacts and resources we have. my immune system has crashed and that causes all my joints to seize up when that happens. :(
> >
> > michelle
> >
> > On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
> > > but do not want to join the email list?
> > >
> > > Do we have subgroups?
> > > <http://www.igda.org/accessibility> http://www.igda.org/accessibility
> > > It looks like that we have two subgroups:
> > > One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
> > > Disabilities"
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Sandra
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > games_access mailing list
> > > <mailto:games_access at igda.org> games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org>
> > > <http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:10:07 +0200
> > From: "Sandra Uhling" <<mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>sandra_uhling at web.de<mailto:sandra_uhling at web.de>>
> > Subject: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
> > To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
> > <<mailto:games_access at igda.org>games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org>>
> > Message-ID: <000801cb6c94$3326ede0$9974c9a0$@de<mailto:000801cb6c94$3326ede0$9974c9a0$@de>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > thanks for the information Michelle,
> >
> > Can we still use and edit this wiki?
> > <http://wiki.igda.org/Game_Accessibility_SIG>http://wiki.igda.org/Game_Accessibility_SIG
> >
> > Maybe we can update it step by step, after the selection?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Sandra
> >
> >
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: <mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org> games_access-bounces at igda.org<mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org> [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im
> > Auftrag von Michelle Hinn
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Oktober 2010 19:31
> > An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
> > Betreff: Re: [games_access] Questions about this SIG
> >
> > yes -- it's <mailto:accessibility at igda.org> accessibility at igda.org<mailto:accessibility at igda.org>
> >
> > we've been having trouble with the website -- we've had more subgroups and
> > that's something that would be good for the new steering committee to
> > discuss (and those running to discuss their ideas here for voters). i cannot
> > access the website to add anything, nor can barrie and many others. i've
> > asked that the igda look into this many times but i've kind of lost steam on
> > that because we never get any resolution. i know other sigs are also having
> > trouble.
> >
> > past subgroups have included "research" "game development" "industry
> > relations" etc
> >
> > due to health concerns, i am not going to run at all -- but i will still be
> > serving as chair emeritus to help the new committee understand about the sig
> > past and what contacts and resources we have. my immune system has crashed
> > and that causes all my joints to seize up when that happens. :(
> >
> > michelle
> >
> > On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > do we have one contact email address for people who have questions,
> > > but do not want to join the email list?
> > >
> > > Do we have subgroups?
> > > <http://www.igda.org/accessibility> http://www.igda.org/accessibility
> > > It looks like that we have two subgroups:
> > > One for "Gamers with Disabilities" and "Parents of Children with
> > > Disabilities"
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Sandra
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > games_access mailing list
> > > <mailto:games_access at igda.org> games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org>
> > > <http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
> >
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