[Techtoolslist] 9100FT Programmer’s Keyboard

Mon Oct 8 15:12:43 EDT 2018

I have uploaded photos of the insides of the OAK keyboard to:

Under /Fluke/9100_series/9100_Keyboard...

Will copy the binary code there too, makes more sense as it is not 
actually part of the adapter project.

John :-#)#

On 2018/09/06 12:50 PM, John Robertson wrote:
> Today I opened my 9100 programmers keyboard #757120 (made by OAK) and 
> they nicely had put the keyboard code in a 2716 mounted on a Z8603RS.
>
> Here is the code:
>
> ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org//home/mirrors/flippers/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/9100%20Series/Keyboard_Adapter/Z8603RS_KYBD_9100.bin 
>
>
> John :-#)#
>
> PS, Side note - if your 9100 build in keyboard is stiff when you pull 
> it open be sure to take it apart and add a tiny dollop of silicon 
> grease to each of the wiper assemblies - otherwise it can break the 
> housing as the plastic is getting brittle with age. If you do break 
> any plastic Methylene Chloride works as a solvent to repair it.
>
> PPS, as an Easter Egg, did you know that the 9100A keyboard has a 
> great many signatures imprinted on the underside of the plastic cover? 
> Nice!
>
> On 2017/10/07 10:32 AM, William Stillwell wrote:
>> I am working on a version now, I received a keyboard for testing so 
>> should
>> be soon.
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2017 8:13 PM, "Ian Eure" <ian at retrospec.tv> wrote:
>>
>>> This has been done a couple times, but none of them are currently
>>> available or very well documented.  I’m sure it would be 
>>> well-received if
>>> you produced a new version.
>>>
>>> Personally, I’m interested in understanding the original, and 
>>> replicating
>>> it, if possible, so a converter box is less desirable for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Dave Riddle (Technical Dept.) <
>>> enginr at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>> Make an in-between box that accepts the new keyboard codes as is and
>>> converts them to the useful hex code at the useful baud rate. What? 
>>> Maybe
>>> five chips on a 2 x 2 board? Just need those custom keycaps, then.
>>>>> On 10/6/2017 3:20 PM, Andrew Finn via Techtoolslist wrote:
>>>>> WOW many thanks for taking the time and trouble to take and upload 
>>>>> the
>>> pics of the unit, was very interesting! I emailed keytronics for
>>> information or the rom data but as expected they don't have any info 
>>> now
>>> earlier than 2000 so that's out the window!!
>>>>> It is a copy of a keytronics KB101 early keyboard and with the 
>>>>> detailed
>>> pics have started mapping the keys to the fluke, I am also looking into
>>> getting a modern keyboard made with these fluke key legends on them, 
>>> it has
>>> rekindled me to look into all this and devise a pic chip to change 
>>> the baud
>>> rate so a modern keyboard can be used, now I have done the fluke video
>>> cards I still need a keyboard so this has inspired me to look into 
>>> it all
>>> again!
>>>>> Getting hold of those old style clicky keyboards seems a very 
>>>>> expensive
>>> exercise!! But there are company's that will print anything you want 
>>> on key
>>> caps for them, so even that is a option if KB101 keyboards can be 
>>> found!!
>>>>> The project goes on!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4 Oct 2017, at 2:07 am, Ian Eure <ian at retrospec.tv> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:21 PM, John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2017/10/03 5:05 PM, Ian Eure wrote:
>>>>>>>> I finally tracked down a Programmer’s Keyboard for my 9100.  I 
>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>> know how widely it’s known, but there were two different versions
>>>>>>>> of the keyboard.  The only photos I’ve seen are the earlier model,
>>>>>>>> which meant that I almost let this one slip away. It was on eBay,
>>> new
>>>>>>>> old stock, for $36 shipped!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the info is in the manuals, if you look.  I had always 
>>>>>>>> wondered
>>>>>>>> why the keyboard illustrations in the Programmer’s Manual didn’t
>>> match
>>>>>>>> the photos of the keyboard I’d seen.  It’s because I read scans 
>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>> later (1991) printing, which has illustrations of the later 
>>>>>>>> revision
>>>>>>>> of the keyboard.  I haven’t seen a 1988 printing, but I bet it 
>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>> the earlier keyboard layout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The various 9100 service manuals list different part numbers:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 9100A Supplemental Parts List (May 1988), fig. 5-21, p. 5-53
>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>> Lists p/n 5-64995-131.  This seems to be the more common 
>>>>>>>> version of
>>>>>>>> the keyboard.  It has a block of (mostly) 2u keys on the far 
>>>>>>>> right,
>>>>>>>> angled RETURN key, and arrows by the SHIFT and RETURN keys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Photo: https://i.imgur.com/undefined.png
>>>>>>> Broken link.
>>>>>> Here’s what I was trying to share: http://www.dragonslairfans.
>>> com/smfor/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6456.0;attach=11160
>>>>>> I’d be interested to know what’s inside one of these, maybe it uses
>>> normal switches and could be used to reproduce one.
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