[casual_games] Zinc framerate

[Dennis - I Sioux]

Well in this case it is interesting for the DRM discussion aswell.. :)

It's because it's the trial ..
When i was in contact with MDM at the time.. i said to them that i found it 
weird that they didn't put the new fix in the demo aswell.. because this 
would be a great marketing thing.. as everybody hated zinc for the speed.

Kevan Harriman of Mdm wrote:
"The speed increase is only on the full plugin. Due to the watermark on the 
trial edition, we have to render the content the same way as before. I 
tested the swf you sent with the picture of the sunset and it's much, much 
faster on the full plugin than the trial plugin. "

So i guess they still haven't put it in their demo.. transparant projector's 
will render as the old way aswell.. probably the watermark uses this 
transparant option.

For the linux and mac they don't use activeX .. but they use a custom 
wrapper based on the netscape plugin architecture.
So that's already fast.

To bring it back to the drm discussion .. Zinc can publish for linux, mac 
and windows.. and is well worth the $ :) (you'd almost think i have a share 
in them ghehe)

Best regards,

Dennis
Isioux

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Olivier Besson" <olive at globz.com>
To: "IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List" <casual_games at igda.org>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [casual_games] Zinc framerate



> How foolish, I was trying with a trial version :) thanks for the link !

>

> .. However.. :(

> I uninstalled/restarted computer/reinstalled Zinc 3.0.8 (trial) but.. 

> still the same problem (tested with 120 fps + 60 fps).. Is it because I 

> don't have the full version? It's so weeeeeird.. that I should bother MDM 

> instead of this list (sorry)..

>

>  Olivier

>

> ps: Please note we are supposed to "be glad to know that the 3.0.2 

> Projectors now run at the same speed as the native Web Flash Player"... 

> But the Web Flash player is different from the Flash standalone projector. 

> Flash Web player have also the same framerate penalty in IE, and FF2 (but 

> no more in FF, since version 3). The Flash standalone projector is were 

> the framerate is best.

>

>  Olivier

>

>

>

>

> Dennis - I Sioux a écrit :

>> Hey Olivier,

>>

>> Are you using the full version?

>> And also.. did you update the latest builder.. and if you update you 

>> latest plugins.. make sure you delete the old onces first.. because the 

>> updating doesn't work that great.. best is to do a complete cleanup.

>>

>> It should be up to 95% of normal speed atleast.. but in most cases we 

>> don't see any difference at all anymore.

>> Mdm's blog about this beeing resolved: 

>> http://www.multidmedia.com/blog/?p=23

>>

>> Greetz,

>>

>> Dennis

>> Isioux

>>

>> P.s. I've changed the topic to keep it clean :)

>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivier Besson" <olive at globz.com>

>> To: "IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List" <casual_games at igda.org>

>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:43 AM

>> Subject: Re: [casual_games] Protecting downloadable games

>>

>>

>>> It seemed good news, but.. I just checked with version 3.0.6 and 3.08 :

>>> - 120 fps becomes 60 fps in zinc projector

>>> - 60 fps becomes 40 fps,

>>> - etc..

>>> It the same problem as usual with flash activeX :(

>>> Is there any option to activate to get this display mode? (I just

>>> started a new project, choose the swf and that's it).

>>>

>>> Olivier

>>>

>>> Dennis - I Sioux a écrit :

>>>> Actually.. In the beginning of this year i've been in contact with Mdm

>>>> (makers of Zinc) about the framerate loss.

>>>> They weren't aware that the flash player was faster.. but after

>>>> showing some tests they went to look into it.

>>>> Now since version 3.0.3(i believe it was) they have changed the way

>>>> they render to screen.

>>>>

>>>> With the old way, they would rendered everything to a buffer first,

>>>> after that.. showing it on screen.

>>>> Now they don't use the buffer anymore, and it's as fast as the

>>>> original flash player.

>>>>

>>>> Mind that at that time the new changes didn't apply for the demo zinc

>>>> and transparant app's

>>>>

>>>> Dennis

>>>> Isioux

>>>>

>>>

>>>

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