[casual_games] Notes from community chat

Adam Martin adam.m.s.martin at googlemail.com
Mon Nov 8 06:49:25 EST 2010


Note that historically, large FB groups have "lost" something like 20-30% of
all outgoing messages. i.e. moderator sends a message to all, but FB doesn't
send the message (even internally - never reaches the recipient FB inbox,
let alone send out the email)

I used to think this was their internal filtering systems, but they recently
(within last 6 months) replaced their messaging system, so maybe it was just
bugs, and now it's fixed.

Either way, I would be very cautious about using FB as a primary contact
medium. It's simply not their core business, and (understandably) it took a
very long time for them to do anything about the problems.

(I used to run a few groups on FB, and this became such a huge problem, we
eventually migrated all of them to other websites)

On 8 November 2010 04:17, Ryan Sumo <endlessthirteen at yahoo.com> wrote:


> Just anecdotal evidence on my part. In organizing meetups and events

> locally, I've found that people reply through facebook groups/fan pages in a

> far more timely manner. For the most part people would ignore my mass

> emails, but reply to my facebook messages.

>

> It could just be the fact that more people are on it these days, or that

> there is a compartmentalization of these communications networks. I

> certainly have one business email address (gmail), one personal

> email(yahoo), and everything else through facebook.

>

> Ryan Sumo

> freelance artist/IGDA Manila chairperson

> portfolio - http://ryansumo.carbonmade.com/

> blog - http://geekofalltrades.wordpress.com/

> IGDA Manila forum - http://tinyurl.com/igdamanila

>

>

> ------------------------------

> *From:* Matthew Ford <matthew at fordfam.com>

> *To:* IGDA Casual Games SIG Mailing List <casual_games at igda.org>

> *Sent:* Monday, November 8, 2010 11:55:47 AM

> *Subject:* Re: [casual_games] Notes from community chat

>

> I'd propose a middle ground. I personally like email a lot more than

> Facebook, and any professional should be looking at his or her inbox

> regularly. But, very many of the people I teach (at university) and most

> that I mentor (a lot of teenagers) consider email something old people use,

> a necessary means to validate memberships to web sites, and otherwise is

> just a spam collector to be skimmed maybe once a month. Like or hate that

> fact, they are not going to change because of us. Until we get them more

> firmly into the ancient world of email, I think we need to reach out in any

> way we can to keep the IGDA vital.

>

> So I propose that all IGDA communications, like those of any business,

> should be duplicated across all viable channels. Send it in email, and I'll

> keep reading it that way. But also send it to a FB group. Link it in a

> status update on a FB page. Blog it, with RSS support. And tweet links to

> it. Podcast it. The internet really is a series of tubes and we have no

> choice but to squirt our brains into every one we can find, to get the word

> out.

>

> Otherwise, it would seem to me like this is 1995 and we are refusing to

> embrace a new dehumanizing fad called "email", and sticking to just a

> printed newsletter.

>

> I also have to point out that asking this question via an email list is

> going to produce a wee bit of preference bias...

>

> --Matt

>

> * * *

> Matthew Ford - matthew at fordfam dot com - http://www.fordfam.com/matthew

>

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