[games_access] Betr.: Re: Accessible Adult Entertainment, Censorship and Accessibility

Sander Huiberts s.huiberts at bartimeus.nl
Tue May 15 16:07:45 EDT 2007

As far as I know, Eelke is not from Amsterdam. :)

And, after signing a girl's breast at a gig this saturday a week after I
got the first panties thrown at my head (yes, pink of course) I think I
will not say anything about sex. Both not in Amsterdam by the way.

But I think asking Brenda is a good one! So we have a little mixing up
of SIG's here...

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>>> hinn at uiuc.edu 10-05-07 4:21 >>>

You aren't the only Amsterdam guy on this list (*cough* eelke *cough*
sander *cough*)...but the bigger issue is that you pose this inquiry
and then LEAVE for a sunny vacation? Unfair!

But you do raise an interesting point and I'm going to ask Brenda
Brathwaite if she knows of any parallels for sound censorship. I mean
obviously there is song lyrics censorship (on the US radio and then
those stickers they put on CDs so that kids can't buy them...in the
US). But I'm not sure what they would consider a "lyric" -- this
probably is handled by some sort of legislation but I don't know if
it refers to other mediums like games (and is a "cd" a different
medium than a "mp3"?)

Just a quick scan of some sites, I found quite a lot of protest sites
that seem to have originated as music censorship sites but now are
branching out, like this one (started as a school project for


Then even before the warning stickers was the radio and bans on radio
include lyrics in songs AND what the DJ says. Now a sound that is
sexually suggestive *might* not be banned (Howard Stern certainly has
done that many times).

Here's a HUGE rundown on wikipedia that covers the US:


So...I honestly have no idea about this and games so I will defer to
Brenda and see what she knows about it -- I'm sure that as the "sex
in games" SIG chair, she has a lot to say. :) Will post her response
as soon as I get it!




>Encountered this news item about an accessible porn website for the

>visually and auditory impaired:




>So porn that includes closed captions and auditory descriptions. Not

>that the blind haven't been enjoying auditory porn for centuries,

>but, oh well... Interestingly, I recently encountered this news

>item, about a blind man being being charged for listening to child





>Not that I condone someone seemingly enjoying real child porn, but

>this issue got my interest because in games there's the whole

>censorship going on with extreme violence and sex, etc? So how does

>that kind of censorship relate to alternatives. What I mean is: in

>an audio game (so without visuals) but only sound, what do terms

>like "Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Nudity"

>(http://www.esrb.org/ratings/) mean?




>Richard (yeah, the Amsterdam guy)


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