[games_access] Research questions about games helping veterans

Matthias Troup foreversublime at hotmail.com
Mon Nov 19 11:28:28 EST 2007



Hi All,

Regarding Vets; Here's an LA Times article that might give some a more intimate look into a war vet's life.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/photography/la-na-marlboro11nov11,0,2214837.story

PS - Creating a relationship with high profile persons such as "The Marlboro Marine" could prove advantageous.-Matt> From: hinn at uiuc.edu> To: games_access at igda.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:22:56 -0600> Subject: Re: [games_access] Research questions about games helping veterans> > I am also very, very anti-war, Barrie. I think, though, that one thing that differentiates this war from Vietnam is that -- largely -- injured, returning soldiers aren't being treated with the coldness from the anti-war lot that they were then. I think people recognize that the tactics for recruiting and so forth are far different for this war and, unfortunately, we've had some absolute horror stories of veterans returning from Iraq not being cared for due to less funding going to the after-care of soldiers and more going to the recruitment and training of pre-war soldiers. Sadly...the irony is that games were used for recruitment in a huge way for Iraq and yet not everyone is as "enlightened" to realize that games can be even more powerful to help people who have been injured learn how to live in new ways. At the end of the day, my concern is with those who have been hurt -- on all sides.> > And -- on the record -- my opinion is my opinion and is not the opinion of the SIG and all SIG members. I feel the need to state that because of my position as SIG chair. > > Michelle> > ---- Original message ----> >Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:11:24 -0000> >From: "Barrie Ellis" <barrie.ellis at oneswitch.org.uk> > >Subject: Re: [games_access] Research questions about games helping veterans > >To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List" <games_access at igda.org>> >> >I am very anti-war - and really don't like a lot of the hyper-realistic FPS > >a lot of these soldiers seem to like playing reading reports. These are > >pretty nasty games in my eyes. Give me Uo Poko any day of the week. This > >said, I'd happily see Department of Defence money taken for building > >accessible controllers for giving people some fun who can't otherwise. Do > >you think this is likely to happen? What might be the best approach?> >> >I have had a few people approach me stating that they are supporting soliers > >that have lost limbs, mostly looking towards one handed controllers as a > >solution to gaming. If we could get the DragonPlus RPG DuoCon2 one-handed > >controller back into production, this would aid a lot of one armed gamers. > >Unfortunately, we'd need to have to guarantee a lot of sales > >(http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/SAM-PS2RDC2.html - National Console > >Support suggest 20,000 sales) to see this likely to happen.> >> >Although Ben Heck seems to be having some success in getting a one-handed > >controller manufactured: > >http://gameaccessibility.blogspot.com/2007/10/access-controller-finds-manufacturer.html - > >It does not look to be the ideal solution for all.> >> >Barrie> >www.OneSwitch.org.uk> >> >> >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ben Sawyer" <bsawyer at dmill.com>> >To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List" <games_access at igda.org>> >Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:48 AM> >Subject: Re: [games_access] Research questions about games helping veterans> >> >> >> There is some emerging evidence that virtual environments help veterans > >> with PTSD as long as it's part of a very scaffold and supported therapy.> >>> >> The more specific question might be are some of these cases (the non- PTSD > >> induced ones) a result of veterans who suffer pain and suffering due to > >> disabilities, reduced social atmosphere, etc.> >>> >> PTSD is a very debilitating problem but it's well worked on by others > >> like Skip Rizzo, Russ Shilling, and others in the cyberpsychology realm.> >>> >> In terms of drugs and alcohol while there are ideas for games that help > >> here they are more suited to teens, etc. then well worn veterans. There > >> was some work by the Marines to use a game for anti- drug efforts in the > >> Marines - I need to find out more about that project and if it produced > >> results.> >>> >> The issue of whether games work or not or especially vs. other media/ > >> processes or within them is a big part of some of the major funding RWJF > >> is providing to the games for health community through Health Games > >> Research. However, it's hard to do comparative media studies and it's > >> likely we might not know for sometime these differences. It's also more > >> likely that we parse using games vs. not based on the goals we have and > >> how they map well to things games are accepted as doing quite well such > >> as motivation and distance socialization.> >>> >> Where the SIG and its members might do well in looking at veteran > >> issues/defense needs is in adaptation of controllers and creation of > >> games for people who have suffered various ambulatory injuries and for > >> people with rehabilitation needs from head injuries, etc. These would > >> obviously have crossover use to civilians suffering from the same issues > >> be they by birth or accidents not involving warfare. Unfortunately it is > >> likely the DoD has more $$ more easily available to tackle these issues > >> then do private civilian side sources.> >>> >> - Ben> >>> >>> >>> >> On Nov 17, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Reid Kimball wrote:> >>> >>> Michelle's recent post about veterans seeking relief through games> >>> reminded me I saw this the other day. Truly staggering and mind> >>> boggling the numbers of veterans that aren't getting the help they> >>> need.> >>>> >>> http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/15/cbs-news-investigates- > >>> shocking-rate-of-veteran-suicides/> >>>> >>> "In 2005 alone, 125 veterans committed suicide each week and of the> >>> more than 88,000 vets returning from Iraq, more than 28% of them have> >>> experienced mental health problems."> >>>> >>> This is definitely an area we need to research, how much can games> >>> really help depressed veterans? Will it help them? Will it be abused> >>> like drugs and alcohol? Is it THE solution or is it best to include> >>> gaming as part of a larger therapy?> >>>> >>> -Reid> >>> _______________________________________________> >>> games_access mailing list> >>> games_access at igda.org> >>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> games_access mailing list> >> games_access at igda.org> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access > >> >> >> >_______________________________________________> >games_access mailing list> >games_access at igda.org> >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access> .......................................> these are mediocre times and people are > losing hope. it's hard for many people > to believe that there are extraordinary > things inside themselves, as well as > others. i hope you can keep an open > mind.> -- "unbreakable"> .......................................> _______________________________________________> games_access mailing list> games_access at igda.org> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/games_access
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