[games_access] Final Flier Info
d. michelle hinn
hinn at uiuc.edu
Sun Oct 14 14:38:36 EDT 2007
Sorry to keep adding to the email clutter -- if anyone would like to
have their subscription options switched to digest mode, please let
me know off list (hinn at uiuc.edu) -- but this is crunch time and in
less than two days I'm leaving for E for All and will be in extreme
amount of pain (bad timing for E for All but that's life) so I hope
everyone will forgive me for sending 90 messages a day but I know
what I'm physically up against and the clock is ticking.
I need to get the flier to the printer no later than 11pm (NYC time)
tonight -- that's in under 10 hours. I'm going to take whatever we
have right now and edit it (if I can - hopefully Richard can help but
I have the feeling he's out of town at the moment). I'm going with
the US census percentage even though that number is problematic
because we need to have something there and at least we can say
"according to the US census" and not according to my neighbor or
whatever. We can always explain the problems with that if/when asked
by the press. This isn't a paper -- this is a flier and as long as we
can say where we got that number, there really isn't a problem. I
wish we had better world stats but we don't. So this will be
US-centric.
I'll be printing out a total of 3000 (6000 when the flier is cut in
half), which will add at least another $150 to our (my) already
growing expenses. This is the MINIMUM number that the E for All folks
have suggested.
So last call for suggestions -- we just don't have the time anymore.
We can create the perfect flier for GDC...for right now, it's just
too late.
Michelle
>What percentage would that be? It would seem weird to just have
>X%...I think I'm misreading this though. :)
>
>I don't think we're making up numbers -- we are choosing a certain
>number to go with for this flier -- I'm sure that as hard as we
>worked, we would not be able to do the job that the census has done.
>I read last night that the UN has 650 million worldwide as a number
>in their disability numbers.
>
>So there's a lot of political choices we can make in what number we
>use -- none are making up numbers...they are just using different
>qualifiers to define disability.
>
>Michelle
>
>>small suggestions:
>>
>>We can always say X % has a disability. (this is a hard fact--> ).
>>
>>and then.... a significant amount of those have problems playing
>>games without naming a statistic. Then we still have the large number
>>to draw attention and we don't make up numbers.
>>
>>Cheers eelke
>>
>>
>>On 10/13/07, d. michelle hinn <hinn at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>> Yeah, at the end of the day (maybe even this one?) we just need to
>>> print the flier and say "according to the US Census, about 20%...."
>>>
>>> If people grill us on the number we can point them to the US census
>>> and other groups and/or have long midnight chats over coffee
>>> discussing the statistic and what it does and does not represent.
>>> While the numbers are important to get...we aren't the SIG for
>>> disability statistics. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't keep
>>> thinking about the numbers, as companies will want to know (and
>>> always grill us on them). But we just need to run this flier to the
>>> printer now.
>>>
>>> Michelle
>>>
>>> >Guys come on... this is not a legal document and it is not a
>>> >contract vehicle that is going to be executed at the end of the day.
>>> >This is a flier, not a scientific paper being proofed for next
>>> >months Journal Nature. Add the word ABOUT or ROUGHLY and move on. It
>>> >is a great opening statement and a simple qualifier will make this
>>> >fine. We have 18.6% to 23% so say "about 20%" and move forward.
>>> >
>>> >I know I am new to the group, and I keep quiet, but I have seen less
>>> >discussion on buying a new house.
>>> >
>>> >Mark
>>> >
>>> >Eitan Glinert wrote:
>>> >>Be careful with that statistic, it's a bit tricky (though I've used
>>> >>it myself.) According to the 2000 US census, some 18.6% of 16-64
>>> >>year old US citizens have a disability. But that number can be
>>> >>misleading for several reasons:
>>> >>1. The age ranges are bizarre. They go from 0-4, 5-15, 16-64,
>>>and 65 and up.
>>> >>2. Disabilities tend to be very heavily congregated towards the
>>> >>higher age range. In the 16-64 group, for instance, the majority of
>>> >>that 18.6% lies in the top third of the age range.
>>> >>3. Disability is nebulously defined. Does missing a leg mean that
>>> >>you can't play games (save DDR?) How about a severe, but
>>> >>non-incapacitating illness? ADHD?
>>> >>
>>> >>Moral is: Be careful with that number.
>>> >>Eitan
>>> >>
>>> >>At 05:39 PM 10/13/2007, d. michelle hinn wrote:
>>> >>>According to the latest US census (I called a friend who has a
>>> >>>friend that works for the census AND it's on their website), 49
>>> >>>million people have a disability in the United States. That's
>>> >>>19.4%. So I think we can safely say "nearly 20% of the United
>>> >>>States population has a disability, according to the latest census
>>> >>>data" (better wording can probably be found but that's a stab at
>>> >>>it). This is from the official US census government website. So we
>>> >>>should go with just the US in the flier because we can say that
>>> >>>with more certainty plus the expo is in the US and probably
>>> >>>covered more by US media...at least for this first year of its
>>> >>>existence.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Richard -- I hope you have a little bit of extra time to tweak the
>>> >>>flier. You have been VERY generous with your time and creativity
>>> >>>to help with this!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Michelle
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Yes, you are right -- it definitely changes things, which I meant
>>> >>>>to add and didn't so thanks for raising this issue. I just wasn't
>> > >>>>sure what was meant by "a country" and would prefer if we could
>>> >>>>say "the world" but I don't know the percentages and certainly we
>>> >>>>need to adjust the numbers depending on the wording. I'm not sure
>>> >>>>we should say the 10-20% until we get more confident in our
>>> >>>>numbers per country. We are still kind of making a guess when it
>>> >>>>comes to just the United States.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>With that in mind...what should we have as our opening statement
>>> >>>>on our flier? We don't have a long time to decide -- I need to
>>> >>>>get it to the printer as soon as possible so we need to make sure
>>> >>>>we say only what we are comfortable saying. So we need some
>>> >>>>brainstorming help ASAP!!!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Michelle
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>Maybe I completely suck at math but doesn't changing "country" to
>>> >>>>>world COMPLETELY change the facts? If we can't do that no one is going
>>> >>>>>to give us any respect.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>I don't even know if 10 - 20% of a given country is the truth, I'm
>>> >>>>>sure Richard did the research.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>On 10/12/07, hinn at uiuc.edu <hinn at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> I can't open these at all:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyer4onpage.jpg
>>> >>>>>> http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyermaster0001.jpg
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> How big are they? Can you try to send as attachments if the
>>> >>>>>>total is under 50 mg?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> One thing to change:
>>> >>>>> > http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyer0009.jpg
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> "in a country" -- maybe "between 10 and 20% (on average) of
>>> >>>>>>the world population..." instead? That or "in each country."
>>> >>>>>>but i prefer the world wording
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>> >>>>>> >Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:49:36 +0200
>>> >>>>>> >From: "AudioGames.net" <richard at audiogames.net>
>>> >>>>>> >Subject: [games_access] E For All Flyer Update
>>> >>>>>> >To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List"
>>><games_access at igda.org>
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >Hee,
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >Due to calculation error of my part, I had to rescale the
>>> >>>>>>flyer a little
>>> >>>>>> >bit. See latest versions here:
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyer0009.jpg
>>> >>>>>>
>>>>http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyermaster0001.jpg (2 on
>>>page)
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >Michelle: 4 on page I can do, but text will become small...
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >Greets,
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >Richard
>>> >>>>>> >
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